Fredrick MESSITER

[DaveHam9]

1841
Civil Parish: St Paul Malmesbury
County: Wiltshire
Registration District: Malmesbury
Sub-RD: Malmesbury Western
Fredrick Messiter 20 Wiltshire


I'd like a look up please for the household.

Thanks,

Dave

 

[horse]

1841 - Error, surname..

Civil Parish: St Paul Malmesbury
Hundred: Malmesbury
County: Wiltshire
RD: Malmesbury
Sub-RD: Malmesbury Western
ED: 6; HO107; Piece: 1181; Book: 21; Folio: 39; Page: 19

Edward Megerter 25 [BiC. Draper]
Mary Megerter 20 [do]
Ama Megerter 20 [do]
Fredrick Megerter 20 [do.do]
Peter Jaurequiberry 25
Frances Phillips 15
Emma Tarplee 20
Mary Ford 20
Ella Ayres 20
Caroline Whale 15
Joseph Willis 15
[The others are possibly lodgers/servants] If you need their occ's, let me know.

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

Don't need the other details thanks.


1851
HO107 Piece 1489 Folio 131 Page 18
Civil Parish: St Marylebone
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
County: Middlesex
Registration District: Marylebone
Sub-RD: St Mary
ED: 4
Address:
William Gale 69
Ann Gale 63
Mary Ann Gale 29
William Gale 28
Frederic Messiter Visitor 29 Teacher of Classics Malmsbury
Clara Fung 20
Susan Chappel 19

J ? Messeter
Port of Departure: London
Port of Arrival: Sydney, New South Wales
Voyage Arrival Date: 15 May 1855
Vessel Name: Walter Hood
[Description = Traveller]

Unassisted to Victoria:
JAN 1856 CLASMERDEN B 104 004
MESSITER JANE MRS 40
MESSITER JANE MISS 8
MESSITER JOSIAH MR 24
MESSITER THOMAS MR 30

I presume that means either Thomas or Josiah married Jane as Frederic married another Jane in NSW.

The Sydney Morning Herald - Wednesday 17 June 1857 p.1
MARRIAGES
On the 10th instant, at St. Mary's, Balmain, by the Rev. W. Stack, Mr. Frederic Messiter, of Malmesbury, Wilts, to Jane, youngest daughter of the late William Price, Esq., of Rodborough Fort, Gloucestershire.

 

[DaveHam9]

WALTER HOOD

OF LONDON, H SPROAT, MASTER, BURTHEN 915 TONS
FROM THE PORT OF LONDON TO SYDNEY, NEW SOUTH WALES, 14TH MAY 1855
...
MESSETER F PASSENGER Traveller


No parents listed:

Burial 186008250 122/1860 MISSITE FREDERICK AGE 38 YEARS DIED SYDNEY

Possibly a brother :

William Williams Messiter
Birth Date: 25 Feb 1809
Birth Place: St Paul Malmesbury, Wiltshire, England
Event Type: Birth
Father: James Messiter
Mother: Sarah
Denomination: Baptist
Piece Title: Piece 2238: Malmesbury, Abbey Row (Baptist), 1794-1837

 

[horse]

I presume that means either Thomas or Josiah married Jane as Frederic married another Jane in NSW.

Can't see an obvious marriage

 

[horse]

I can't see how Thomas and Josiah fit either

 

[DaveHam9]

The Sydney Morning Herald - Saturday 11 February 1860 p.1
DEATHS
On Wednesday, the 8th instant, at his residence, Balmain, Mr. Frederick Messiter, B.A., late of Trinity College, Dublin, aged 38 years.

No birth/bap on FS.


Can we prove William and Charles are Fredric's brothers?

1851
HO107 Piece 1505 Folio 627 Page 49
Civil Parish: Hackney
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
County: Middlesex
Registration District: Hackney
Sub-RD: Hackney
ED: 26
Address:
Wm Messiter Head Mar 42 Commercial ... ? Malmesbury
Emma Messiter 28
Annie Messiter dau 3
Edward Messiter son 1
Charles Messiter Wid. 28 Chemist Malmesbury
Sarah Gibbins servant 16 House servant

 

[horse]

William Williams Messiter
Birth Date: 25 Feb 1809
Birth Place: St Paul Malmesbury, Wiltshire, England
Event Type: Birth
Father: James Messiter
Mother: Sarah
Denomination: Baptist
Piece Title: Piece 2238: Malmesbury, Abbey Row (Baptist), 1794-1837

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

That seems to be the only one.

 

[horse]

1851
Civil Parish: Hackney
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
County: Middlesex
RD: Hackney
Sub-RD: Hackney
ED: 26; HO107; Piece: 1505; Folio: 627; Page: 49

Wm Messiter 42 [b. Malmesbury. Commercial traveller]
Emma Messiter 28
Annie Messiter 3
Edward Messiter 1
Charles Messiter 28 bro [do. Chemist]
Sarah Gibbins 16

Looks good

Geoff

 

[horse]

Ooops! you found the 1851

 

[DaveHam9]

We have Fredric with three others in 1841 and William with brother Charles but nothing to connect the two groups.

No baptisms on FreeREG.

 

[horse]

Does the name Dutton have any significance?

 

[DaveHam9]

Does the name Dutton have any significance?

I can't see any mention of it re this family.

 

[horse]

This keeps turning up

Charles Dutton Messiter
Record Type: Burial
Age: 45
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1823
Death Date: abt 1868
Burial Date: 30 Sep 1868
Burial Place: St James, St Pancras, England
Parish or Poor Law Union: St James, St Pancras
Borough: Camden
Register Type: Bishop's Transcript

 

[DaveHam9]

Dunno Geoff.

Any parents listed on this death in Tasmania?

Edward MESSITER died in 1876.

 

[horse]

Dunno Geoff.

Any parents listed on this death in Tasmania?

Edward MESSITER died in 1876.

No, Dave... Everything else

 

[DaveHam9]

Ok, thanks Geoff.

Looks as though we can't connect Fredric or Edward to William or Charles.

 

[horse]

A tree has this...

"Bankrupt
1842
16 Jul
Age: 26
High Street Malmesbury Wiltshire
As reported in various newspapers. Edward Stephens Messiter and Frederick Messiter tailors."

I've seen Fredrick as a draper somewhere

Still not a connection ?

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

One for gibbo to search the English papers.