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FULLER & SLOANE

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Alfred Stephen Fuller
Spouse Gertrude Sloane
Marriage 25 Jan 1899 Woodstock, Goodwood, Cape Province, South Africa

The image of the marriage has Gertrude of full age and a spinster - no father listed.

Deaths Mar Qtr 1912 FULLER Gertrude 36 Hendon 3a 341

I can't find a birth for Gertrude in South Africa.

1911
RG14 Piece 7070
Parish: Harrow On The Hill
County: Middlesex
Registration District: Hendon
RD No: 130
Sub-RD: Harrow
ED: 3 SN: 91
Address: 185 Pinner Rd
Alfred Stephen Fuller Head 45 Married Butler Worshipful Company Goldsmiths Chelsea Middx
Gertrude Fuller Wife 36 Married 11 3 2 1 Yorkshire Bradford
Doris Fuller Dau 8 Hampshire Gosport
Zaidee Fuller Dau 5 Hants Winchester
Clara Elizabeth Fisher Hood Visitor 26 Single Shop Assistant Florist Suffolk Lowestoft
 
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1901
RG13 Piece 1104 Folio 56 Page 6
Civil Parish: Hawley With Minley
Eccl. parish: Minley St Andrew
County: Hampshire
Registration District: Hartley Wintney
Sub-RD: Farnborough
ED: 9
No of Schedule: 31
Address: Milley Manor
visitor with a Currie family
FULLER Alfred S Visitor S 36 Soldier Colour Sergeant 2nd K. R. Rifles Balham Surrey
+ servants

Alfred down as single ?

I can't find Gertrude in 1901.
 
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Definitely Alfred on his own. No sign of gertrude anywhere. Could Alfred have come back to England with the Army and perhaps Gertrude travelled back alone at a later date. Daughter Doris wasn't born until the September quarter 1902.

1911 Census shows that they had 3 children, one of whom died.
Birth/Baptism
Annie Loisa Mary Fuller born 30 October 1899, baptised 4 December 1899 at St Peter's Church, Fort William, Calcutta, India
Death
Annie Louisa M Fuller 1900 Kasauli, India (Source GRO Army Death Indices 1881-1955 page 528 line 73)

Doesn't help in finding Gertrude but might fill a gap.
 
Thanks emeltee.

No sure if wives would have travelled on the same vessels.

I didn't have Annie.
 
Doris is the connection. I have her birth as 10 June.

Marriages Jun 1930 Hendon 3a 1031
HAMILTON Ernest W & FULLER Doris
10 or 17 May ??

I have a very old handwritten family tree passed down from my grandmother. I can't read the date of the marriage.
 
1939 Register
8 Wieland Rd Ruislip-Norwood Middlesex
Schedule 78
Ernest W Hamilton, 12 May 1892, M, Senior Examiner Estate Duty Office Somerset House
Doris Hamilton, 10 Jun 1902, M, Unpaid domestic work
Then 2 locked entries [Patrick and Jean] [Brian died ?]
The next schedule is 79
 
Thanks emeltee.

Strange the family tree also had no marriage and no death for Brian. The tree lists a marriage and three children for Patrick and Jean.
Ernest's father George married Susan Andersson who was born Cork, Ireland, hence names like Patrick.

Births Sep 1932 HAMILTON Brian - Uxbridge 3a 87 mmn FULLER

Born about the same time and excluding those with a middle initial.

Births Dec Qtr 1931 Hamilton Brian - Hollows Oldham 8d 1053

Births Jun Qtr 1932 Hamilton Brian - Nightingale Manchester N 8d 569

Deaths Sep Qtr 1952 HAMILTON Brian 20 Whitby 1b 697

No Probate record found.

The Brian whose death was registered in Whitby was possibly buried at Leeming, North Yorks. The memorial inscription there says just B Hamilton aged 20. Strange no full name but there was an RAF station there so perhaps he was based there and just the initial is the official format?
 
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Probate

Fuller Alfred Stephen of 25 Meadow road Pinner Middlesex died 8 November 1945 Mount Vernon Hospital Northwood Middlesex – Probate Llandudno 3 Jan to Ellen Fuller widow – effects 1227.11s

Alfred S Fuller married Jan qtr 1913 Birkenhead Ellen Wynne – Cheshire Vol 8a page 893

WW1 Service Record – 1359 KRR – Sept 10 1914
Alfred Fuller b Chelsea London age 50 a Butler – married with 3 children under 14 served previously Kings Royal Rifles discharged on completion of engagement 30/9/1905
wife Ellen Wynne spinster – children Doris b 10/06/02, Zaidee b 14/05/05, Stephen b 9/01/14

Gertrude Fuller buried 13 Feb 1912 Harrow London
1911 census has her age 36 b Bradford - married 11 years 3 children, 2 living 1 dec

birth cert 14 Nov 1874 – 78 Orchard street – Gertrude – nil father – mother Mary Marshall – informant John Henry Brown occupier 78 Orchard street on 22 Dec 1874

1881 at Washway Road Sale Cheshire with Mother & Grandparents

a pos….Miss Sloane 20 & Miss A Sloane 17 travel Capetown 2 Sept 1896

Gertrude marries at St Mary’s Cape Town – residence Wynberg SA father on cert is William Sloane teacher of shorthand.

from a Will of Ann Marshall 29 Jan 1926 – my niece Doris Fuller and my niece Zaidee Fuller both of them daughters of my niece Gertrude Fuller. (Ann is sister of Mary Marshall b 1856 – died 16 March 1929 – never married
parents Thomas Marshall (1811-1885) & Mary Ann Tunnicliffe (1813-1899)

going back to William Sloane b April 1851 Manchester – Horace Seymore Sloane (1823-1891) & Elizabeth Roberts (1824-1902) – Henry seemed to prefer using William

1st married 19 Feb 1872 Cathederal Manchester to Susannah Taylor – FHL 438229, 438230, 438231,438233 – March 1873 a Henry Sloane stab a Sarah Ann Taylor convicted to 12 mths imprisonment – no mention of being related…

1881 Susannah is with her mother with her daug Lillian S Sloane age 8 at 870 Ashton rd Openshaw Lancs and Henry is with a Emma Sloane at 8 Elaine Grove Pancras Kentish Town

found Henry Sloane died Liverpool Sydney 20 March 1914 – Horace S & Elizabeth – reg 2468

buried 23 March 1914 St Lukes Liverpool Sydney age 62 – can’t get into Trove to see what it says..
 
Thanks Val.

No father in the image of the marriage ?

Married 26 March 1913 from service record.

I didn't have son Stephen.

Deaths 1990
FULLER STEPHEN WYNNE 9JA1914 ST AUSTELL 21 417

MARSHALL, GERTRUDE -
GRO Reference: 1874 D Quarter in BRADFORD YORKSHIRE Volume 09B Page 110
 
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Marriages Sep Qtr 1840 Chorlton 20 119
MARSHALL Thomas & TUNICLIFFE Mary Ann

Births Sep Qtr 1855 MARSHALL Ann - Chorlton 8c 460 mmn TUNNICLIFFE

Births Dec Qtr1856 MARSHALL Mary - Otley 9a 113 mmn TUNNICLIFFE

Deaths Jun Qtr 1885 MARSHALL Thomas 73 Chorlton 8c 546

1891 Mary Ann a boarder
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:7CLN-SPZ

Deaths Sep Qtr 1899 MARSHALL Mary Ann 87 Salford 8d 62

I can't find an unmarried Mary Marshall born Yorkshire abt 1856 in 1891.

The only Mary Marshall born Otley abt 1856 I can find in 1901 and 1911 is with mother Margaret.
 
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No death for an Ann Marshall born abt 1855 in 1925 or 1926 in England.

1881
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q272-D2LL

I can't find Thomas Marshall and wife Mary Ann in 1861 or 1871. Lots of different occupations but not tailor or draper.

GRO is down for me so I'm making no progress.

Perhaps the birth in Otley for Mary is the wrong one.
 
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GRO is back.

This must be the right one.

Births Dec Qtr 1852 MARSHALL Mary - Chorlton 8c 411 mmn TUNNICLIFF

Deaths Sep 1899 MARSHALL Mary Ann 87 Salford 8d 62

Deaths of Mary and Ann Marshall.

?
Deaths Mar 1929 MARSHALL Ann 72 Bradford 9b 308
 
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1881
RG11 Piece 3506 Folio 56 Page 43
Civil Parish: Sale
Eccl. parish: St Anne
County: Cheshire
Registration District: Altrincham
Sub-RD: Altrincham
ED: 22
No of Schedule: 192
Address: Washway Rd
MARSHALL Thomas Head Mar 70 Tailor & Draper Crakehall Yorkshire
MARSHALL Mary Ann Wife Mar 69 - Mansfield Nottinghamshire
MARSHALL Mary Dau Unm 18 Nursery Governess (Dom) Manchester Lancashire
MARSHALL Gertrude Grand Dau 6 Scholar Bradford Yorkshire

Mary is Gertrude's mother so she should be 28 ? - born 1852.

Marshall family in 1871, thanks.
 
1871
RG10/3991/F48/p23
Freme Street, Chorlton on Medlock, Lancs
Thomas Marshall 60 Tailor Crakehall Yorks
Mary A Marshall wife 59 Mansfield, Notts
Henry Marshall son 29 Tailor Manchester
Mary Marshall dau 18 Teacher of Music Manchester
Ann Marshall dau 15 Scholar Manchester

Looking at the original of the 1881 Census Mary's age could well be 28, it's not very clear
 
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