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Genealogy Annoyances.

benny1982

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Hi

I reckon many of you have come across annoyances in genealogy when ancestors just wont let you find them, or even take the delight in making tracing their siblings, cousins, employers or friends hard so that you cannot smash down the brickwalls.

Here are a few examples of how some of our ancestors curse our hobby :D

The workhouse records, parish registers or record entry pages are crystal clear but the entry for your ancestor is illegible, or has a huge ink mark splodged over the vital info.

Finding that ancestors married in the registry office rather than their local church so that you cannot look up the marriage for free at the local record office and still have to fork out £7.

Finding that an ancestor was in the workhouse in a census then to find that the admission registers contain all the years covered except the year that your ancestor wasd admitted. Registers cover 1840-1857 and 1859-1900, and that 1858 was the year than your rellie entered the workhouse and that is the only year that the registers hasnt survived.

Banns registers or marriage licenses which survive onwards starting from the year after your ancestor married.

Awkward ancestors who marry miles away from where you think they should have married.

An ancestor died in the workhouse in 1885, the admission registers say the date, then to your delight you find Relieving Officers or Board Of Gurdian Records that go up to the year that your ancestor was admitted, so you can find a workhouse order from the local RO, only to find that the workhouse orders stop at the week before your ancestor was ordered to the workhouse.

Ancestors who sign their name on certs yet put their mark on others.

Ancestors who always change their mind about their age or birthplace on censuses.

An ancestor who was born with a common name such as John Smith yet has one or two middle names but they never use them on records when they are adults.

Two brothers who use the same names for their children and breed them at the same time and have the same wifes names.

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Some more Ben to add to the list.

Fathers name entered on marriage certificate with dec'd along side it and no occupation, so lets have a look on the census that will be easy:2fun:

The name your looking for are living with people you have no knowlegdge of, then spend ages tracing these only to find you still hav'nt gone past go.

Gives county as place of birth now which one out of 50 are they?

Decides to get married just before civil registration.
 

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Hi Julie

Here is my biggest annoyance with ancestors.

Ancestors who say that they are not born in county of residence in 1841 but they die just weeks, or within years of the 1851 census. A London ancestor did this and if she had lived just 6 weeks more, then I would have had her birthplace.

Ancestors who marry inbetween the 1841 census and 1851 census and when you find them in 1841 they are in service with totally unrelated families so you still have no idea as to their parents, and the parish of birth is not indexed.

Fathers names on certs being given as just Deceased in both Name and Occupation so you have no idea of their firstname.

Ancestors who dont state if their father is dead in their marriage certs when they are dead.

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I agree entirely, we can chase people for a very long time - all to no avail, one of my annoyances has to be - born IRELAND on the census where though???
 

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Oh come on people, if it was all easy we wouldn't need this forum. Be grateful.
Just think where all these annoyances have taken us. Even if they are brickwalls, it's the hunt isn't it.
All over the world we have travelled looking for rellies, and some will never be found.
But still bl**dy annoying.:biggrin: :biggrin:

Steve.:)
 
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Hi Ben and Julie
Talk about frustrating, My maternal grandfather Albert Brown :confused: Goldfinch hopped off leaving my mother and Grandmother shortly after arriving in England from Hong Kong sometime in 1925/6.
Census records show that he was born in Kent, Albert Frank Brown c 1889, and living in Kent until 1901.Heresay is that he joined the Army - East Kent Regiment 'The Buffs' (unable to find any record ), was posted to Hong Kong (records show The Buffs were there in 1908 ) where I think he changed his name to Goldfinch, perhaps to avoid being caught after deserting:confused: He married, fathered a child (my mother b. 1911) then, being unable to work due to the amputation of a foot/leg returned to England. The only evidence I have of his existence is my parents marriage cert. 1938. and immigration record of 28th July 1926 Mr, Mrs and Miss A Goldfinch arrived at London on the ship Katori Maru from Hong Kong. Their U.K.proposed address was given as 64 Charter Road, Gillingham, Kent.
Unknown - 1. Why and when did he change his name.
2. Did he actually join the army.
3. If he did in fact join the army, when and why did he leave
4. Was he really married to my grandmother (Claudinia Reis)
My husband has looked at army records - Kew, Census and immigration records. We would really like to see Hong Kong records, particularly my late mother's birth certificate which could answer so many questions, unfortunately we've been told that the Hong Kong records office was destroyed by enemy bombing during WW2.
All these gaps in the information are really frustrating and even more frustrating is the fact that we might even be researching the wrong man:rolleyes:
Carol:kissu:
 

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Ben, I think we must have all the same rellies. Especially amongst those disobliging souls who thoughtlessly died, before the 1851 census. I thought I had all of those in my tree.

I also have many thoughtless women who had illiegitimate children and refused to name and shame the bloke in the Parish registers, or give the child his second name as a way to make him pay for his sins.
 

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Hi JMR

I think with fathers of illegitimate children, it is a case of pot luck. My great, great gran (as you have probably read in my Roberts illegitimacy success story) was illegitimate but her parents married soon afterwards and I have much evidence that he was the father, the baptism being the best piece of evidence plus the circumstances surrounding the initial illegitimacy, whereas others I will probably never solve such as an Oxfordshire illegitimacy.

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My Genealogy Annoyance is my paternal grandfather - not in 1901 census, not in Boer War as far as I could see. Could not wait for 1911 census - not on that either. Searched Ireland, Scotland and a few other places. Henry (Harry) Summerling born March 1880 Felmersham, Bedfordshire last seen in 1891 census (Felmersham). No further sighting until his wedding in 1918 to my grandmother. Medal card found for a Henry Summerling but no army records survive (a researcher checked for me).

Where was he for those missing 27 years?

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My general annoyance with my husbands family is that they have a habit of living on county boundaries and so I never know which county I should be looking for their family. My family includes a number or illiterate boatmen who gave their date of birth as a different year on every census.
 

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Another genealogy annoyance is when parents only baptise a few of their children and never appear to baptise the others, and it is always the others that get omitted that are your ancestors.

In Durham, my gran born in 1920 doesn't appear to be baptised along with her sister in 1921 but her 1923 born brother was.

My ancestor William Wilson was born in about 1821 in St Helen Auckland, Durham son of John and Ann but cannot for the life of me find a baptism yet many of his siblings were baptised.

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http://www.google.co.uk/search?sour...GB287GB292&q=albert+goldfinch+gillingham+kent


Carol...take a gander through these links...notice an Albert Goldfinch,Gillingham on the 6th link down.....apologies if you have done this...there are more pages on bottom of google page.
Thanks Leefer..somehow I don't think this Albert Goldfinch could be my grandfather unless a 75 yr old one legged man was employed as a driver :rolleyes: The rest of the info. will keep me out of mischief for a while though...on with the hunt, Ta Carol :)
 

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Marriage and banns registers before 1837 that dont give the marital status when you suspect one could be a widow or widower.

Looking through endless London churches for my East End ancestor burials when there is about 1000 burials every 6 months.

The witnesses of marriages being the rector and sexton.
 

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Ancestors with common names giving inconsistent info on censuses such as 1871 "John Roberts, Head, aged 63, born Taunton, Somerset, tailor" then in 1881 census "John Roberts, Head, aged 69, born Taunton Somerset, Clothes maker" making you sceptical as toif it is the same man even if you check.

Ancestors who never marry their spouses but pretend to be married.

Ancestors who rearrange their firstnames from Thomas John to John Thomas.

Ancestors who always know themselves by their middle name, confusing us descendents.

Ancestors who seem to vanish after a census with no death record, emigration etc.

Ancestors wwith a common name who marry someone with a common name.
 

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Dear Benny
I couldn't agree with you more. You should be very grateful that your ancestry isn't Welsh. I have more Jones's than anything else and add to that frustration you have Patronymics as well.

I have forgotten who wrote the relative that came from IRELAND,mine said he came from ENGLAND. For goodness sake they could have been a little more helpful. Someone recently said that of course they did not think anyone would need to search for them and that curates and vicars didn't realise that we would need to be able to read their writing.
It is so frustrating!!
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Annoying ancestors like my Gt Grandmother who doesn't seem to have been born anywhere, she doesn't seem to have died either. Appears to have been illegitimate but maybe acquired a stepfather at some stage. All I have is her marriage certificate and can't trace anything else because she left no clues.

And annoying living relatives like my Dad (she's his Grandmother) who never asked her or his Mother any nosey questions whilst they were alive! :rolleyes:

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Annoying ancestors like my Gt Grandmother who doesn't seem to have been born anywhere, she doesn't seem to have died either. Appears to have been illegitimate but maybe acquired a stepfather at some stage. All I have is her marriage certificate and can't trace anything else because she left no clues.

And annoying living relatives like my Dad (she's his Grandmother) who never asked her or his Mother any nosey questions whilst they were alive! :rolleyes:

Jill
Well if she was born under a gooseberry bush Jill your dad may have found her abit prickly!
 

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I've just recieved a marriage cert which is the most beautifully written cert that I have recieved as yet.
It is so easilly read, with the bride and grooms names, fathers names, occupations, condition as to marriage (widower + spinster).
Witnesses are related, brother and sister of the bride. All the information you could wish for.

BUT. It's the wrong one.

Steve.:mad: :)
 

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