George and Alice FERRIER

[DaveHam9]

George FERRIER & Alice HUNTER
Marriage 1870 Inveresk, Midlothian


1881
Registration Number: 685/2
Registration District: St Andrew
Civil Parish: Edinburgh St Mary
County: Midlothian
ED: 75
Household schedule number: 34
Roll: CSSCT1881_286 Page 5
Address: 18 Claremont Ter.
Geo S Ferrier Head 30 Accountant
Annie Ferrier Wife 30
Jane Ferrier dau 9
John Ferrier son 8 Inveresk, Mid Lothian
Jessie Ferrier dau 6
David W Ferrier son 2
Annie A Ferrier dau 6 Mos
Marjory T Anderson 20
Janet Hamilton 16


I'd like a look up please for George and Alice in 1871.

Thanks,

Dave

 

[davelambert271]

1871 Scotland Census
about George Ferrier




Name:
George Ferrier

Age:
20

Estimated birth year:
abt 1851

Relationship:
Head

Spouse's name :
Alice Ferrier

Gender:
Male

Where born:
Inveresk, Midlothian

Registration Number:
689

Registration district:
Inveresk

Civil Parish:
Inveresk

County:
Midlothian

Address:
36 High St

Occupation:
Family Grocer

ED:
2

Household schedule number:
96

LINE:
18

Roll:
CSSCT1871_167

George Ferrier 20
Alice Ferrier 19

 

[DaveHam9]

Many thanks dave.

One more gap filled.

Dave

 

[davelambert271]

Hi dave

I'm not happy the family you have for 1881 is the same as I found for 1871.
are you sure it's them

dave

 

[DaveHam9]

I did wonder why it was 'Annie' and not Alice.

Janet Jane Ferrier b. 12 Jun 1871 Inveresk and Musselburgh, Midlothian
George Ferrier & Alice Hunter
Batch: C116891

John Ferrier b. 20 Nov 1872 Inveresk and Musselburgh, Midlothian
George Ferrier & Alice Hunter
Batch: C116891

Jane Ferrier dau 9
John Ferrier son 8 Inveresk, Mid Lothian

 

[DaveHam9]

Also Geo S and not just George.

And a different occupation.

The 1870 marriage would be a good starting point with the two children born 1871 and 1872.

 

[DaveHam9]

That 1881 was chosen because of this:

John Ferrier son 8 Inveresk, Mid Lothian

So, are there 2?

It's son John who ends up in Australia. His death in WA indicates a middle name which is not seen in other records - H = Hunter probably.

#30 FERRIER JOHN H Male WILLIAMS 1944

Williams is the district.

 

[DaveHam9]

These don't fit that 1881:

John Mc Donald Ferrier
birth: 18 May 1873 STOBHILL,MIDLOTHIAN,SCOTLAND
mother: Ann Ferrier

John Perret Ferrier
birth: 27 June 1872 EDINBURGH,MIDLOTHIAN,SCOTLAND
father: Thomas Ferrier
mother: Amelia Kerr


So need a marriage for a George S to an Ann/Annie.

 

[DaveHam9]

No baptisms in FS and no parents in SP so stuck checking other children in that 1881.

 

[DaveHam9]

1x John FERRIER 1870-1875 (1872) Inveresk

1x John FERRIER 1870-1875 (1872) Musselburgh

 

[Bootzy]

Hi Dave,
The West Australian Tuesday 13 June 1944
FERRIER.--On June 5, suddenly, at Wickepin Hospital. John Hunter. dearly beloved husband of Jane Brown Ferrier (Wickepin). loving father of John (deceased). Jessie (Mrs Harris. Perth). Ike (Kalgoorlie). Annie (deceasedl. Arthur (RAAF). James (Kalgoorlie), Jean (Mrs Agg, Perth) and Mary (Mrs Braunhalz Wickerpin,, At rest,

FERRIER.-On June 5. 1944, at Wickepin Hospital, dearly loved father of Mary, father-in-law of Charlie. grand father of Ian and Stewart.

FERRIER. –On June 5. 1944, at Wickepin Hospital, dearly loved father of Jessie. father-in-law of Arthur (deceased), grandfather of Amy. Arthur, Vida and Milton. great-grandfather of Lester and Errol. Happy memories. Dad.

The West Australian Tuesday 12 April 1949
FERRIER - On 10 April at Wickepin, Jane Brown dearly beloved wife of the late John Ferrier, fond sister of Grace (Mrs Lyons) also brother Jim of Scotland, dear sister of Mary (Mrs Logan) and brother Arthur of Canada. Family chain has broken, memories remain.

Kalgoorlie Miner Tuesday 30 March 1948
FERRIER - In loving memory of my darling husband Ike Ferrier loving Daddy of Nellie (Sydney), John (Wickepin) and Ella (Kalgoorlie). Killed on the North Kalgoorlie mine March 30 1946, Not just today but every day in silence I remember one best. - his name was actually Isaac.

regards
Val

 

[DaveHam9]

George Straton Ferrier
Birth Date: 15 Mar 1852
Birthplace: Edinburgh Parish, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland
Father's Name: James Ferrier
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Stuckey
Batch: C119844

No marriage for George using that middle name.

No marriage in Midlothian 1860-1880 for a George to Ann/Anne/Annie.

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks val.

That confirms it's the right John I'm tracing.

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Death 1876 FERRIER Alice (HUNTER) Midlothian

I'll check district and age tomorrow.

 

[davelambert271]

I wonder if this has anything to do with it. did Alice and George die? Musselburgh and Inveresk are adjoining

1881

Noble Hunter Head Widower Male 37 1844 Mason Dalkeith, Edinburgh

Janet Hunter Daughter - Female 10 1871 Scholar Musselburgh, Edinburgh

John Hunter Son - Male 8 1873 Scholar Musselburgh, Edinburgh

Sarah Montgomery Niece - Female 10 1871 Scholar Ormiston, Haddington


First name(s)
Janet

Last name
Hunter

Relationship
Daughter

Gender
Female

Age
10

Birth year
1871

Occupation
Scholar

Birth town
Musselburgh

Birth county
Edinburgh

House name
Newbigging 2nd House

Parish
Inveresk

County
Midlothian

Country
Scotland

Registration district
Inveresk & Musselburgh

Series
RG11

Piece number
-

Folio
-

Page
-

 

[Bootzy]

John Hunter Ferrier b 28 May 1872 Newbattle Midlothian Scotland to Isaac Ferrier 1851 - 1941Williams (WA BMD) and Annie Hunter 1845 Midlothian - 24 Jan 1895 Lasswade Midlothian (off a tree)

Father Isaac Ferrier b 1851 Cranston married (1) Annie Hunter 25 Oct 1872 Edingburgh - Scotland select Marriages show place as Penicuik Midlothian FHL 6035516, after her death Isaac remarried 1896 to a Catherine Elder at Shetland Scotland and he died in WA in 1941 age 90.

The Ferrier Family consisting of John Hunter Ferrier, Wife Jane Robertson Brown and father Isaac Ferrier, John Brown 19, Janet (Jessie) May 17, Isaac 15, Annie Hunter 13, Arthur Brown 10 ,James 7, and twins Jean Brown 5 and Mary Brown 5 .Migrated from Scotland to England to come to Australia on the "Ajana" arriving in Fremantle, Western Australia on the 27th July 1912 from there they settled in Wickepin.
regards
Val

 

[Bootzy]

1881 Census Scotland
Isaac Ferrier age 29 b Cranston Midlothian a stoker at papermill
Ann Ferrier wife 36 b Newbattle Midlothian
John Ferrier son 8 born Newbattle

John Ferrier age 18 on 1891 census is working as farm servant William Hamilton place at Annieston, Lanarkshire Symington ED 2 schedule 4 Roll: CSSCT1891_323

1901 census
John Ferrier 28 a ploughman at Cresswell Cottages - Penicuil with
Jane b wife 27 b Bathgate Linlithgowsh
John Ferrier son 7 b Livingston Linlithgowsh scholar
Janet daug 5 b Lasswade Edingburgh
Isaac son 3 b Penicuik Edingburgh
Annie daug 1 b same
ED 2 schedule 21 roll CSSCT1901_405
regards
Val

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Val.

Thanks dave.


Death 1876 FERRIER Alice (HUNTER) St Giles, Midlothian Age 25


We know the John who died in WA has a middle name of Hunter.


Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

This makes it clear.

John Hunter
Birth Date: 25 May 1872 Newbattle, Midlothian
Mother's Name: Anne Hunter
Batch: C116951


Isaac Ferrier
Spouse's Name: Ann Hunter
Event Date: 25 Oct 1872
Event Place: Penicuik,Midlothian
Batch: M116971

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello dave,

You were right to question it.

Several assumptions had been made by those who supplied details to me previously and by myself.

Sorted now.

Dave