George & Andrew CHALMERS

[DaveHam9]

1861
Registration District: High Church
County: Lanarkshire
Village: St Mungos
ED: 4
Address: Drygate Street
George Chalmers Head Widower M 44 Labourer Glasgow Lanarkshire [Ceylon]
Ann Chalmers Dau Unm F 19 Winder Glasgow Lanarkshire
Andrew Chalmers Son M 13 Scholar Glasgow Lanarkshire
Margaret Chalmers Dau F 5 Scholar Glasgow Lanarkshire
Elizabeth Chalmers Dau F 1 - Glasgow Lanarkshire
Ann Glendenning Mother-in-Law Widow F 61 - Glasgow Lanarkshire
James Glendenning Brother-in-Law Mar M 28 Labourer Glasgow Lanarkshire
Elizabeth Glendenning Sister-in-Law Mar F 25 - Glasgow Lanarkshire
Andrew Glendenning Nephew M 0 - Glasgow Lanarkshire

Andrew and father George show in High Church Lanark for 1871. There is a cross check with two names in High Church, an Andrew aged 25 and a George aged 56. Surname indexed as CHAMERS.

I looked today without using a surname and I didn't find any High Church in Lanarkshire. And I didn't find George or Andrew.

Thanks,

Dave

 

[emeltee]

Unfortunately I can't view an image but here is the transcription for 1871

1st Building, Newly formed Street leading Eastwards under Cause, Blackfriars or College, High Church, Lanarkshire

George Chamers Head 56 Labourer pob not given
Elizabeth Chamers wife 51 Glasgow
Andrew Chamers son 25 Puddler Glasgow
plus 3 boarders and 5 visitors

Emeltee

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Emeltee.

No idea why I could not find it.

I have the other census.

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

1920 DEATHS in the Parish of Kirkintilloch in the County of Dumbarton
No. 11 Elizabeth Chalmers Married to Andrew Chalmers General Labourer - 1920 January 11th 7 h 30 m A.M. 38 West High Street Kirkintilloch - F - 66 Years - James Arrol Cotton Weaver Jeanie Arrol M.S. Butcher (Both deceased) - Incompetence of Cardiac Valves Three Months as certified by W. T. Blakely M.B. C.M. - Andrew Chalmers Son 3 Ettrick Place Pollokshaws - 1920 January 12th at Kirkintilloch Geo. M Matson Asst. Registrar A. M. Reg. (A. M. Matson Registrar)

Andrew still living but the son was the informant.


This does not fit.

CHALMERS
ANDREW
70
1934
501/ 172
Old or West Kilpatrick

 

[DaveHam9]

possibly

CHALMERS
ANDREW
83
1928
644/21 874
Govan

 

[Ellie7]

Elizabeth Hogg Chalmers
Gender
Female
Birth Date
02 Dec 1859
Birthplace
HIGH CHURCH,GLASGOW,LANARK,SCOTLAND
Mother's Name
Annie Chalmers
Think it's Ann dau in the 1861 Census.

Euphemia Hunter Chalmers
Gender
Female
Birth Date
16 May 1858
Birthplace
HIGH CHURCH,GLASGOW,LANARK,SCOTLAND
Father's Name
George Chalmers
Mother's Name
Euphemia Glendinning

Death-
EUPHEMIA HUNTER
GLENDINNING
Age 0
1859
644/2 510
High Church

Mothers Death ?
CHALMERS
EUPHEMIA
39
WOOD
1858
644/2 1656
High Church

 

[Ellie7]

Possible parents of George Chalmers
William Chambers
Spouse's Name
Agnes Hunter
Event Date
03 May 1783
Glasgow,Lanark,Scotland

Ellie

 

[Ellie7]

Do you have his Second Marriage.

George Chalmers
Spouse's Name
Elizabeth Watson
Event Date
17 Apr 1863
Event Place
Calton,Glasgow,Lanark,

Should have parents on it.
Ellie

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Ellie.

Had the 1858 death but not the 2nd marriage for George.

Not sure re his parents as census has his pob as Ceylon.

Can't use the 4 credits I have until I add more.

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

George CHALMERS & Euphemia GLENDINNING
17 Jul 1840 Glasgow, Lanark
Batch: M119754

1841
Piece: SCT1841/622 Place: Barony -Lanarkshire ED: 5
Civil Parish: Barony Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: -
Folio: 83 Page: 24
Address: Muslin Street Milroy's Land
GLENDINNING Andrew M 45 Warper Outside Census County (1841)
Page: 25
GLENDINNING Anne F 40 Lanarkshire
GLENDINNING William M 14 Warper Lanarkshire
GLENDINNING David M 12 Twister Lanarkshire
GLENDINNING James M 10 Lanarkshire
GLENDINNING Francis M 2 Lanarkshire
CHALMERS Euphemia F 20 Lanarkshire
CHALMERS Anne F 4m Lanarkshire
HUNTER James M 14 Male Servant Lanarkshire
HUNTER Alexander M 12 Lanarkshire


Don't know where George is in 1841.

 

[Ellie7]

The George Chalmers that was married to Euphemia Glendinning states 1861 Census born Glasgow

Ellie

 

[DaveHam9]

Yes Ellie and

1851
Piece: SCT1851/644 Place: Glasgow -Lanarkshire ED: 5
Civil Parish: Inner High Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: St Mungos
Folio: 553 Page: 13 Schedule: 59
Address: 6 Drygate Lane
Surname First name(s) Rel Status *** Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
CHALMERS George Head Mar M 34 Bundler in Iron Works Overseas - British - Island of Ceylon
CHALMERS Euphemia Wife Mar F 31 Lanarkshire - Glasgow
CHALMERS Ann Dau - 10 Lanarkshire - Glasgow
CHALMERS Andrew Son - 3 Lanarkshire - Glasgow

Can't see him in 1841.

Dave

 

[Ellie7]

Andrew Graham Chalmers
Gender Male
Marriage Date 12 Feb 1808
Marriage Place Glasgow,Lanark,Scotland
Spouse Jean Strachan
FHL Film Number
1042935, 1042937, 1042937
Above taken from the 1863 Marriage

John Chambers
Gender
Male
Christening Date
06 May 1809
Christening Date (Original)
06 MAY 1809
Christening Place
Freshwater Hampshire, England
Father's Name
Andrew Graham Chambers
Mother's Name
Jane

 

[Ellie7]

Second Marr.?

Andrew Graham
Last nameChalmers
Marriage year1828
Marriage date03 Aug 1828
Marriage placeGlasgow,Lanark,Scotland
Spouse's first name(s)Sarah
Spouse's last nameCockfield
PlaceGlasgow
CountyLanarkshire
CountryScotland
Record set
Scotland Marriages 1561-1910

Ellie

 

[Ellie7]

Andw Graham
Last name
Chalmers
Birth year
-
Year
1821-29
Regiment
59th Foot
Regiment / service number as transcribed
59th Ft
Candidacy year
1825
Pension age
41
Series
Wo 23 - Royal Hospital Chelsea: Admission Books, Registers, And Papers 1702-1876
Archive
The National Archives
Archive reference
WO 23
Piece number
25
Piece description
Miscellaneous.
Year range
1821-1829
Record set
British Army Service Records
Category
Military, armed forces & conflict
Subcategory
Service Records
Collections from
Great Britain, UK None

Wonder if the post before is a Son marrying.

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Ellie.

59th
In August 1804, while stationed in England, a second battalion of the 59th Foot was raised. The 1st Battalion sailed in the following year for the Cape of Good Hope ... From the Cape, the 1st Battalion sailed to India. In November 1810 the battalion took part in the invasion of Mauritius. In the following year they invaded Java in the Dutch East Indies. They remained in Java until 1815, when they returned to India. The unit moved from India to Ceylon in 1817, returning to India in the following year, ...

Born Ceylon abt 1817 could well be correct but the dates are 1821 - 1829 ??

Don't know if it is a 2nd marriage or that of a son.

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

I looked again at the library for the 1871 census and no matter what I tried I could not find it. I tried with and without surname, with and without RD. Tried Elizabeth born 1820 Lanark and living in Lanark and no luck. Tried George with and without Andrew.

Dave

 

[Ellie7]

73 Foot-25Sept1800-24thMay 1821.Private 10yrs 334 Days,Corporal-8yrs 133 days,Sargeant 2yrs 126days

59 Foot -25thMay1821-24thOct1821.

59Foot-25thOct-23thJune1825

East Indies-17thJune1802-21 June1806,26thMarch 1814-8June1825.

Discharged -signed 23rd July 1826

Landed at Gravesend-59thAug.1825

Wounded in the Right Temple at Madras 1804,Right Shin at Ceylon in 1818.

Discharged age -c41,5ft 7inches,Brown hair,Grey Eyes,Fair complexion.

Trade-Brush Maker.
Andw GrahamLast nameChalmersBirth year-Year1821-29Regiment59th FootRegiment / service number as transcribed59th FtCandidacy year1825Pension age41SeriesWo 23 - Royal Hospital Chelsea: Admission Books, Registers, And Papers 1702-1876ArchiveThe National ArchivesArchive referenceWO 23Piece number25Piece descriptionMiscellaneous.Year range1821-1829Record setBritish Army Service RecordsCategoryMilitary, armed forces & conflict

Ellie

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Ellie.

Oh. Now I'll look for 73rd. of Foot.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/73rd_(Perthshire)_Regiment_of_Foot
In April 1809 the regiment raised a second battalion in Nottingham from local militia companies and lost its Highland status due to recruiting difficulties, becoming the 73rd Regiment of Foot. The 1st Battalion embarked at Yarmouth for a seven-month journey to New South Wales, Australia in May 1809.
... the main body of the battalion left New South Wales in April 1814 on the 'General Hewitt' for Ceylon.

The battalion took part in the Second Kandyan War in Ceylon in 1815. Following the disbanding of the 2nd Battalion in 1817, some 300 of its remaining soldiers sent out to Trincomalee to join the 1st battalion. In that year the regiment took part in suppressing the Uva Rebellion, losing 412 out of approximately 1,000 men.

Dave

 

[Jeanetteg]

My third great aunt was
Elizabeth Arroll
B: abt 1854 Paisley, Renfrewshire
D: 11 Jan 1920 Kirkintilloch, Dunbartonshire, Scotland she married
Andrew Chalmers
B: Abt. 1848 Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
His mum and dad are on this 1861 census
Name: Andrew ChalmersAge: 13Estimated birth year: abt 1848Relationship: SonFather's name: George ChalmersGender: MaleWhere born: Glasgow, LanarkRegistration Number: 644/2Registration district: High ChurchCivil Parish: Glasgow Inner HighCounty: LanarkshireAddress: 81 Drygate StOccupation: ScholarED: 4Household schedule number: 81Line: 25Roll: CSSCT1861_98Household Members: NameAge

George Chalmers44
Ann Chalmers19
Andrew Chalmers13
Margaret Chalmers5
Elizabeth Chalmers1
Ann Glendinning61
James Glendinning28
Elizabeth Glendinning25
Andrew Glendinning10 Mo​

Not sure who these other people are on this census maybe they were related or lodgers. hope this helps