George ATKINS & Julia SNELL

[DaveHam9]

Marriage 4685/1878 ATKINS GEORGE - SNELL JULIA - RYDE * 29 Jun

Death 18949/1935 ATKINS JULIA A - THOMAS 80YRS PARRAMATTA PARRAMATTA * 2 Aug 1935

Age 80 could be an error for 86 ??

 

[DaveHam9]

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SNELL JULIANA 780/1849 V1849780 53 THOMAS ANN

SNELL JULIANA 35/1849 V184935 60 THOMAS ANN

The Sydney Morning Herald - Sat 3 Aug 1935 p.13
FUNERALS
ATKINS.-The Relative and Friends of the late JULIA ANN ATKINS ...

 

[DaveHam9]

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Death SNELL THOMAS 2028/1856 AGE 55 YEARS DIED DUNGOG DUNGOG

3 possible deaths for Ann.

 

[DaveHam9]

Perhaps Ann died much earlier

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/64976918

5 orphan girls

 

[DaveHam9]

No marriage in the index for Thomas to Ann.

No earlier death in index for Ann.

??
Thomas SNELL 'John' 1829 Certificate of Freedom 25 Aug 1835 [4/4329; Reel 995]

No Application to Marry but that on line list is incomplete.

1844 is the earliest baptism in the index.

Mary A, Juliana, Elizabeth. Only 3 not 5.

 

[gibbo]

Child Care and Protection index 1817-1942

Margaret SNELL 3 yrs Protestant Orphan School (Female) Admissions book 09/08/1856
Harriet SNELL 9 yrs Protestant Orphan School (Female) Admissions book 09/08/1856
Julia SNELL 7 yrs Protestant Orphan School (Female) Admissions book 09/08/1856
Ann SNELL 5 yrs Protestant Orphan School (Female) Admissions book 09/08/1856
Mary Ann SNELL 12 yrs Protestant Orphan School (Female) Admissions book 09/08/1856
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[DaveHam9]

Thanks gibbo.

Mary A 1844 is the first in the index and eldest there.

SNELL MARY A 2691/1844 V18442691 28 THOMAS ANN

That means some baptisms are missing from the index.

 

[gibbo]

I have to duck out for half hour will have another look when i get back.

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks gibbo.

 

[DaveHam9]

So, was he a convict?

No death in the index for Ann that fits.

A Mrs Ann Snell in Maitland in 1840s and early 1850s.

 

[gibbo]

Going by the orphan book records Margaret was 3 in 1856 so born around 1853 or maybe 1852 as i found this birth in 1853

SNELL ELIZABETH 4281/1853 V18534281 40 THOMAS -- ANN

So Ann would have been alive around then, died between 1853 and 1856. I cant find a death for her yet the kids are noted as Orphans.

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks gibbo.

When the library reopens I'll look up the baptisms. Elizabeth in the index but that might be an error ?? But don't know how you read Elizabeth for Margaret.

There still seems to be some missing.

Dungod is not Maitland but don't know when they arrived in Dungog. Ann Snell in Maitland in and out of court.

 

[gibbo]

Harriet SNELL 9 yrs Protestant Orphan School (Female) Admissions book 09/08/1856

Could be totally wrong but well worth checking, i have to duck out again for half hour so will have another look when i get back but for now this is what i have found.

Harriet going by age as above on the orphan records would have been born around 1847/1848. The is a newspaper article with a Harriet Snell in trouble for leaving her baby unattended in 1864 aged 16 so birth around 1847/1848 the article states she was born in Victoria.

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/13104616
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[DaveHam9]

Thanks gibbo.

Ann's maiden name might be Silk.

Thomas was a convict from Lincs.

https://convictrecords.com.au/convicts/snell/thomas/12792

Marriage 1843 ? Application to Marry ?

 

[DaveHam9]

So far can't find Thomas on the Transportation database.

Qld State Library seem to have changed the easy to use link they once had to that database.

 

[Bootzy]

Aust Birth Index
Juliana Snell b 1849 NSW – Thomas Snell & Ann – V184935 60
Baptism
Juliana Snell b 8 Feb 1849 baptised 12 Aug 1849 Scottish Episcopalian Houghton NSW – Thomas Snell & Ann – FHL Film 993975 – married 29 June 1878 George Atkins (1853-1929)

Tree has for mother
Hannah (Ann) Silk b 8 Dec 1819 St Mary Magdalend Richmond Surrey – died 7 Oct 1853 Paterson NSW (parents John Gustavus Silk (1789-1833) & Harriett Letitia Biggs (1792-1852)

Ann Silk age 15 departed London for Port Jackson arrived 17 Dec 1833 on ship “Layton” and married Thomas Snell (1803-1856) 9 June 1843 Tilimby NSW and she died 7 Oct 1853 Williams River NSW

Thomas Snell’s death cert has died 7 July 1856 Bendora nr Dungog – Thomas Snell farmer age 55 yrs by visitation of god – place of marriage has widower and children has 5 daughter
Convicted in Lincoln 15 July 1828 and got 7 years

Empire – Mon 22 Sept 1856 – about the 5 daughter’s
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/64976918?searchTerm=thomas%20snell&searchLimits=l-state=New+South+Wales|||l-decade=185|||l-year=1856

there is a Margaret Green Snell b 9 July 1856 Dungog and died 22 May 1869 Liverpool NSW reg 4149

Elizabeth Snell b 7 Oct 1853 baptised 13 April 1854 Dungog – Thomas Snell & Ann FHL 993965 tree feels that’s Elizabeth’s death in 1854

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Val.

One day I'll be able to go to the library and get an image of the baptisms.

The 1843 marriage is not in the index so don't know the source of that. Death cert ?

The death for Ann is not in the index so don't know the source of that.

 

[DaveHam9]

Bap V18534281 40/1853 SNELL ELIZABETH - THOMAS - ANN

Page 8
Baptisms Administered in the Parish of Dungog in the County of Durham in the Year 1854
No. 8 When Baptised: April 13 When Born: Oct. 7 1854 Elizabeth - Thomas & Ann Snell Abode: Dungog Quality or Profession: Farmer By whom the Ceremony was performed: W. Toms

Ann died 1854 ?

Death 2028/1856 SNELL THOMAS AGE 55 YEARS DIED DUNGOG DUNGOG * 7 Jul 1856

 

[DaveHam9]

Bap V1849780 53/1849 SNELL JULIANA - THOMAS - ANN

Presbyterian Baptisms in the Parish of Newcastle in the County of - 1849
Thomas & Ann Snell Occupation: Farmer Residence: ?? Date of Birth: 1849 Febry. 8th Date of Baptism: 1849 Augt. 12 *** & Name: Juliana girl

 

[DaveHam9]

Bap V184935 60/1849 SNELL JULIANA - THOMAS - ANN

Presbyterian Baptisms in the Parish of Houghton in the County of Durham 1849
Julianna - Thomas & Ann Snell Abode: Tilimby ? Quality or Profession: Farmer When Born: 1849 Feby. 8th When Baptised: Augt. 12th By whom the Ceremony was performed: Willm C... ?

Curious that it is a different parish.