George Henry FRENCH

[DaveHam9]

George Henry FRENCH c. 17 Oct 1837 West Wittering, Sussex
Thomas FRENCH & Jane [LUTER]

Description
Name French, George Henry
Place of Birth: West Wittering, Sussex
Continuous Service Number: 4645
Date of Volunteering: 27 October 1853
Date 9 October 1837
Catalogue reference ADM 139/47
Dept Records of the Admiralty, Naval Forces, Royal Marines, Coastguard, and related bodies
Series Admiralty: Royal Navy Continuous Service Engagement Books
Piece 4601 - 4700
Image contains 1 document of many for this catalogue reference

Description
Name French, George Henry
Official Number: 76660
Place of Birth: West Wittering, Sussex
Date 9 October 1837
Catalogue reference ADM 188/66
Dept Records of the Admiralty, Naval Forces, Royal Marines, Coastguard, and related bodies
Series Admiralty: Royal Navy Registers of Seamen's Services
Piece 76601 - 77200
Image contains 1 document of many for this catalogue reference

George in 1871 is in Naples, middle initial D but I sure he is the same one as his pob is West Wittering year abt 1838. The downside he is classed as single.

George may or may not be the father:

Birth: 1871; Limekilns, Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland; he is listed as Carl August Anderson or French; witness Christina Anderson, mother; certificate #212

Looking for a death for George.

Thanks,

Dave

 

[horse]

Good grief this is a messy one

There's also a George Henry French b. same time in Worthing, Sussex...

 

[DaveHam9]

Good grief this is a messy one

There's also a George Henry French b. same time in Worthing, Sussex...

This is George Henry. :biggrin: He is a gunner. He either died around 1871 or he did a runner.

The baptism in post #1 is the one I'm after. Mother Jane LUTER.

Thomas French & Jane Luter
13 Feb 1831 Northwood, Hampshire

Thomas was in the Coast guard.

 

[DaveHam9]

Something is wrong with this census ref:

1841
HO107 Piece 1652 Folio 38 Page 23
Civil Parish: West Wittering (not East as transcribed)
Registration District: Westhampnett
Sub-RD: Manhood
Thomas French 30 Coast guard
Jane French 30 not born in county
Eliza 9
Jane 7
Catherine 5
George 3
Albert 1


And this one too:

1851
HO107 Piece 1103 Book 7 Folio 8 Page 11 ?
Civil Parish: West Wittering
Registration District: Westhampnett
Sub-RD: Manhood
Thomas French Head 43 Chief boatman on ---- coast guard ---- Pevensey
Jane Wife 42 Cowes Hants
Eliza Ann dau 19 Selsey
Catherine S dau 15 West Wittering
George H son 13 West Wittering
Thomas A son 10 West Wittering
Charles L son 9 Selsey
Daniel son 6 Selsey

 

[DaveHam9]

Huge number of parishes in W Sussex.

A brother of the George Henry in Sussex has the middle name of Luter.

Don't know what record that was - census ? death ?

I don't know of one born Worthing.

 

[horse]

Something is wrong with this census ref:

1841
HO107 Piece 1652 Folio 38 Page 23
Civil Parish: West Wittering (not East as transcribed)
Registration District: Westhampnett
Sub-RD: Manhood
Thomas French 30 Coast guard
Jane French 30 not born in county
Eliza 9
Jane 7
Catherine 5
George 3
Albert 1


And this one too:

1851
HO107 Piece 1103 Book 7 Folio 8 Page 11 ?
Civil Parish: West Wittering
Registration District: Westhampnett
Sub-RD: Manhood
Thomas French Head 43 Chief boatman on ---- coast guard ---- Pevensey
Jane Wife 42 Cowes Hants
Eliza Ann dau 19 Selsey
Catherine S dau 15 West Wittering
George H son 13 West Wittering
Thomas A son 10 West Wittering
Charles L son 9 Selsey
Daniel son 6 Selsey

Yeah, they have the 1841 details for 1851 and vice versa...

Geof

 

[DaveHam9]

Page 1
1863 Marriages in the Parish of Abercorn in the County of Linlithgow
1 - 1863 April tenth at Society After Banns, according to the Forms of the Church of Scotland -
(Signed) George H. French Gunner (Bachelor) - 24 years - H.M.S.S. "Edingurgh" - Thomas French Coast Guard (deceased) Jane French M.S. Luter -
(Signed) Christina L Anderson (Spinster) - 21 years - Society Parish of Abercorn - Alexander Anderson Postman (deceased) Janet Anderson M.S. Keltie -
(Signed) David Playfair
(Signed) James Anderson Witness
(Signed) John Dick(s) Witness
1863 April 11th at Abercorn C. Dawson Registrar

 

[horse]

He's definitely on the Royal Oak in Naples in 1871...

 

[DaveHam9]

It has to be this one of 8 with that name: - HERE

A large vessel:

Complement: 585
Armament:
24 × Smoothbore muzzle-loading 68-pounder guns
11 × Rifled breechloading 110-pounder guns
Armour: Belt: 3–4.5 in (76–114 mm)
Battery: 3–4.5 in (76–114 mm)

HMS Royal Oak was a Prince Consort-class armoured frigate[Note 1] built for the Royal Navy in the 1860s. The lead ship of her class, she is sometimes described as a half-sister to the other three ships because of her different engine and boiler arrangements. Like her sisters, she was converted into an ironclad from a wooden ship of the line that was still under construction.
The ship spent most of her career with the Mediterranean Fleet, only briefly serving with the Channel Fleet. Royal Oak returned home in 1871 for a refit, but was instead placed in reserve to save money. Fourteen years later, still in reserve, she was sold for scrap in 1885.

 

[horse]

1871
Reg No: 424/2
RD: Dunfermline Landward
Civil Parish: Dunfermline Landward
County: Fife
Address: Red Row
ED: 3; Page: 20; Line: 15; Roll: CSSCT1871_72

Christina French [Christina Anderson] 29 [b. Society, Linlithgow]
Janet C French 7 [Dau, b. Queensferry, Linlithgow]
Georgina G French 5 [Dau, b. Dunfne, Fife]
Janet Anderson 46 [Mother, b. Culross]
James Anderson 48 [Bro, b. Abercarn]

1881
Reg No: 663
RD: Borrowstounness
Civil Parish: Borrowstounness
Town: Boness
County: West Lothian
Address: North St

Adam Sands 50
Ann Sands 49
Jane Eliza Sands 19
Christina Lind Anderson 39 [Sister-in-Law, b. Abercorn. Sailor's wife.]

Geoff

 

[horse]

Does Sneddon ring any bells... she may have mar. a Daniel Sneddon

 

[DaveHam9]

That's Christina and she farmed children out:

1881
Civil parish: Dunfermline
Address: Limekilns
James Anderson Head 52 Slater Abercorn
Janet French niece 17 Gen dom serv Abercorn
Georgina French niece 15 Charleston, Fife
Carl Loenhardt nephew 9 Limekilns
Augusta Loenhardt niece 4 Kinghorn

Christina didn't remarry but had two children after 1871 census so perhaps George didn't die in 1871 or any time around then.

Birth: 1876; North Overgate, Kinghorn, Fife, Scotland; Charlotta Augusta Leonhardt Anderson; illegitimate; mother Christina French M.S. Anderson living at Limekilns, Dunfermline; witness Christina Anderson, mother; certificate #58

 

[DaveHam9]

Does Sneddon ring any bells... she may have mar. a Daniel Sneddon

Not this Christina.

Page 96
1917 Death in the District of Dunfermline in the County of Fife
No. 286 Christina French Widow of George French Gunner Royal Navy - 1917 May Thirty-first 7h. 40m. A.M. Red Row Limekilns Dunfermline - F - 74 years - Alexander Anderson Postman (Decd.) Janet Anderson M.S. Keltie (Decd.) - Senile Decay as cert. by Robert C. Wallace M.B. - Lotta French Daughter Limekilns - 1917 June 1st at Dunfermline David Watson Assist. Registrar JW (James Walls)

 

[horse]

That's Christina and she farmed children out:

1881
Civil parish: Dunfermline
Address: Limekilns
James Anderson Head 52 Slater Abercorn
Janet French niece 17 Gen dom serv Abercorn
Georgina French niece 15 Charleston, Fife
Carl Loenhardt nephew 9 Limekilns
Augusta Loenhardt niece 4 Kinghorn

Christina didn't remarry but had two children after 1871 census so perhaps George didn't die in 1871 or any time around then.

Birth: 1876; North Overgate, Kinghorn, Fife, Scotland; Charlotta Augusta Leonhardt Anderson; illegitimate; mother Christina French M.S. Anderson living at Limekilns, Dunfermline; witness Christina Anderson, mother; certificate #58

So, looking like George did a runner, then...

 

[DaveHam9]

If he called himself single in 1871 then it looks that way.

We have looked and no sign of when he was discharged.