George ORD and son David ORD

[DaveHam9]

George Ord b. 29 Oct 1822
Christening Date: 15 Dec 1822 Sprouston, Roxburgh
David Ord & Agness Weatherstone
Batch: C118074

1841 ??

Agnes Ord b. 5 May 1846 St Cuthberts​ Edinburgh,​ Midlothian,​ Scotland
George Ord &​ Catherine Downie

David ORD b. 1 Jun 1848 St Cuthberts Edinburgh,​ Midlothian,​ Scotland
George ORD & Catherine DOWNIE

Peter Ord b. 29 Jun 1850
christening: 27 Jul 1850 St Cuthberts Edinburgh,​ Midlothian,​ Scotland
George Ord &​ Catherine Downie

Catherine Ord b. 15 Jun 1852
christening: 1 Aug 1852 St Cuthberts​ Edinburgh,​ Midlothian,​ Scotland
George Ord & Catherine Downie

1851
Piece: SCT1851/685 Place: St Cuthbert's -Midlothian Enumeration District: 35
Civil Parish: St.Cuthberts Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: St.Cuthberts
Folio: 707 Page: 14 Schedule: 66
Address: 26 Simon Sqr
Surname First name(s) Rel Status *** Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
ORD George Head M M 29 Coachman Roxburghshire - Sprouston
Page: 15
ORD Catherine Wife M F 30 Roxburghshire - Stitchel
ORD Agnes Dau U F 4 Midlothian - Edinburgh
ORD David Son - M 2 Midlothian - Edinburgh
ORD Peter Son - M 8m Midlothian - Edinburgh
DOWNIE Peter Brolaw W M 28 Millwright Berwickshire - Eccles

Arrived ???

Looking for the marriage of George and Catherine and George in 1841.

Also David's arrival.

Marriage 8 May 1889/B13288 Ord David - Wylie Margaret Brisbane


Thanks,

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

I can't find the marriage on SP or find George in 1841 on FreeCEN.

I can't find the marriage in England.

 

[horse]

Looks as though they were in Qld. by 1882..

The Western Champion (Blackall/Barcaldine, Qld. : 1879 - 1891), 27 October 1882
"Marriage.
FULLERTON—ORD.—On the 21st inst., at
Isisford, by the Registrar, Chas. R. Parish,
James Fullerton, Esq., of Retreat, to Miss
Agnes Ord, eldest daughter of the late George
Ord, Esq., and sister of David Ord, Esq., of
Welford Downs. 176"

Geof

 

[horse]

Catherine's bro., Peter [staying with them in 1851] is in Beldford, 20 miles or so S of Berwick-on-Tweed, perhaps they are in England also

Geoff

Edit: Maybe not, different PoB and age wrong..

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

Yeah, I thought of checking in England.

Arrived much earlier:

Deaths
2 Jul 1874/C0577 Ord Catherine - Peter Downey - Jane Goodfellow
1 Feb 1875/C0762 Ord George - David Ord - Agnes Weatherstone


Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Catherine Downie
Birth Date: 25 Feb 1820 Stitchel, Roxburgh
Father's Name: Peter Downie
Mother's Name: Agnes Goodfallaw
Batch: C118085


So we know George & Catherine and son David and daughter Agnes ended up in Queensland and possibly more of the children.

And Peter

Death 1874/C0576 Ord Peter - George Ord - Catherine Downey

 

[gibbo]

Appears they were here in 1859

Ord v. Byrnes. — Defendant was charged with having left his hired service at Eskdale, a station belonging to Mr. James Ivory, without the permission of Mr. George Ord, the superintendent. Mr.David Ord deposed that the prisoner was a shepherd at the Eskdale station ; that he had received information from his brother, the superintendent of Eskdale, etc etc

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/77427597?

 

[gibbo]

Got David in 1854

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/3713047?

 

[gibbo]

This arrival looks interesting

Index to the Unassisted Arrivals NSW 1842-1855

ORD Geo 23 Ramilles C 28 Dec 1855 London, Moreton Bay 402 Carpenter, Scotland

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks gibbo.

David was 2 years old in 1851. Age does not fit well for George.

I was looking for David, son of George. The newspaper notices show George had a brother David. So that's one more who ended up in Queensland.

George was a coachman in 1851. I wonder if it's the same George at Eskdale. There is also this death:

1889/C4328 Ord George Miller - Frederick Ord - Mary Hanlon

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Ok, this clears it up a bit:

The Queenslander (Brisbane, Qld. : 1866 - 1939) - Saturday 14 July 1906 p.16
DEATHS
ORD.-On June 1, at the Railway Hotel, Cairns, David Ord, of Brooklyn Station, beloved husband of Margaret Ord, and only surviving son of the late George Ord, late of Eskdale Station, Upper Brisbane, aged 58 years.

George's brother:

Death 1886/C0298 Ord David - David Ord - Agnes Wotherspoon

 

[gibbo]

Probably a long shot that its the right family but can anything more be found to help confirm or eliminate this arrival?

Empire (Sydney, NSW : 1850 - 1875)
Thursday 17 November 1853

November 16.- Vimeira, ship, 1037 tons, Captain Neatby, from Plymouth 5th August, and Port Phillip 13th instant. Passengers-Captain Chester, Master, lady, child and servant, Mrs. Belyard, two children and governess, Mr. and Mrs. Alex-ander, Mrs. and Miss Tenison, Mr. and Mrs. Woolwaugh, Miss Jackson, Miss Arthur, Miss Gowan, Messrs. Odenheimer, Herr, Bohn, Blair, Anderson, Cooper, Decie, Bellas, Ivory, Coate, Beauchamp, Mr. and Mrs. Ord and four children,

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/60146304?

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks gibbo.

We know of three children so looking for one more in Australia.

 

[DaveHam9]

The image for the 'Vimeira' on NSW Archives site lists only David and Jane Galathy.

GALATTY David 36 Vimeira 1853 Sydney and/or Newcastle and sister Reel 2137, [4/4791]; Reel 2465, [4/4936]
GALATTY Jane 26 Vimeira 1853 Sydney and/or Newcastle and brother Reel 2137, [4/4791]; Reel 2465, [4/4936]

There is a 2nd reel 2465 I can look up in the library one day next week.

 

[gibbo]

Thanks gibbo.

We know of three children so looking for one more in Australia.

Peter, David, Agnes and Georgina

MARRAGE.
Thorn - Ord. - On the 11th October, at Nukinenda, by the Rev. David Watt, William Thorn, Esq., of Nukinenda, fifth son of the late George Thorn, Esq., Ipswich, to Georgina, youngest daughter of the late George Ord, Esq., Nukinenda.

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/1391608?

QLD death index
1943 C4603 Georgina Thorn George Ord Catherine Downie

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks gibbo.

Can't find a birth/baptism on FS.

 

[gibbo]

There was another kid also born in QLD

1860 C378 James Ord George Catherine Downey

 

[gibbo]

Thanks gibbo.

Can't find a birth/baptism on FS.

I cant find a birth index for her neither. Maybe born on ship??

 

[DaveHam9]

I hope the 2nd shipping reel helps.

Possibly bv for Georgina as there is this one:

Catherine Ord b. 15 Jun 1852
christening: 1 Aug 1852 St Cuthberts​ Edinburgh,​ Midlothian
George Ord & Catherine Downie

 

[DaveHam9]

Still got same gaps.

Can't find George or Catherine in 1841 and can't find their marriage.