George WILLIAMS

[DaveHam9]

Births Mar 1840 WILLIAMS George - Pembroke 26 654 ms GRIFFITHS ??

Parish Registers of Monkton St Nicholas
9 May 1841 George to Thomas & Hester Williams of Monkton a labourer by O. Leach

1841
HO107 Piece/Book 1451/5 Folio 11 Page 13
Civil Parish: Monckton
Hundred: Pembroke
County: Pembrokeshire
Registration District: Pembroke
Sub-RD: Pembroke
ED: 10
Address:
Thomas Williams 37 Ag Lab Y
Esther Williams 42 Y
David Williams 17 Ag Lab Y
Elizabeth Williams 16 Y
George Williams 3 Y
Martha Davies 5 Y


NSW Death 19250/1926 WILLIAMS GEORGE 86 YEARS CHATSWOOD CHATSWOOD * 12 Dec 1926

 

[DaveHam9]

Marriages Sep Qtr 1862 Pembroke 11a 902
WILLIAMS George & PRICE Emma

 

[DaveHam9]

Something is not right.

WILLIAMS, JOHN - GIBBY
GRO Reference: 1838 J Quarter in PEMBROKE UNION Volume 26 Page 618

WILLIAMS, ELIZABETH - GIBBY
GRO Reference: 1841 M Quarter in PEMBROKE Volume 26 Page 667

WILLIAMS, MARTHA - GIBBY
GRO Reference: 1843 S Quarter in PEMBROKE Volume 26 Page 643
WILLIAMS, MARTHA - GIBBY
GRO Reference: 1843 D Quarter in PEMBROKE Volume 26 Page 680

Monkton St Nicholas
27 May 1838 John to Thomas & Hester Williams of Monkton a labourer by Octavius Leach
24 Jan 1840 Elizabeth to Thomas & Hester Williams of Monkton a labouer by O. Leach
09 May 1841 George to Thomas & Hester Williams of Monkton a labourer by O. Leach
24 Dec 1843 Martha to Thomas & Ester Williams of Monkton a labourer by O. Leach

Date for Elizabeth ??

No reg for George that fits ?

2x Martha with mmn GIBBY ??

 

[horse]

You must have 2 separate families, Dave..

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

I'm after the maiden name then of this Hester, thanks.

1851 Wales
HO107 Piece 2476 Folio 583 Page 13
Civil Parish: Monkton
County: Pembrokeshire
Registration District: Pembroke
ED:
Address:
Thomas Williams Head Mar 45 Inn Keeper Keffick
Hester Williams Wife Mar 52 Keffick
George Williams son 13 Monkton
Robert Burnet son Mar 27 Carpenter
Elizabeth Burnet wife/ dau 24
Elizabeth Burnet 3

1861 Wales
RG9 Piece 4158 Folio 68 Page 17
Civil Parish: Monkton
County: Pembrokeshire
Registration District: Pembroke
ED:
Address:
Thomas Williams Head Mar 56 Ag Lab Kiffier Carmarthenshire
Hester Williams Wife Mar 60 Kiffier Carmarthenshire
George Williams son 22 Mason Monkton Pembrokeshire

Dave

 

[horse]

If George = 1838 Pembroke, mmn = Edwards, Willy or Morgans... sigh!

Geoff

 

[horse]

Oh! Esther Willy 1824 Carmarthanshire..

Geoff

 

[horse]

FS:

Wales, Carmarthenshire, Parish Registers
Thomas William
Event Type Marriage
Event Date 17 Apr 1824
Event Place Cyffig, Carmarthenshire
Spouse = Esther Willy

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

I think Thomas married 2x Hester

3 from first marriage

The following children were baptised in Kiffig Church:
David 27 Jun 1824 - Parkcwm, Kiffig
Elizabeth 15 Feb 1826 - Parkcwm, Kiffig
Sarah 27 Dec 1829 - Amroth Parish


David and Elizabeth in 1841 census and gap to George from 2nd marriage. So it's looking as though there is no reg for George.

Thomas Williams
Event Type Marriage
Event Date 22 Oct 1836
Event Place Lamphey, Pembrokeshire, Wales
Spouse's Name Hesther Gibby

 

[horse]

David and Elizabeth in 1841 census and gap to George from 2nd marriage. So it's looking as though there is no reg for George.

Strange re George Williams 1838 mmn Willy, this would have to be wrong then...

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

2x Martha so 2x Hester Gibby

George aged 3 in 1841 so this does not fit

Births Mar 1840 WILLIAMS George - Pembroke 26 654 ms GRIFFITHS

Are all 4 baptisms at Monkton the children of the other Hester Gibby?

 

[horse]

I think you found the same source as me :2fun:

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Strange re George Williams 1838 mmn Willy, this would have to be wrong then...

Geoff

I have no death for Esther nee Willy. If all the children in 1841 census are Hester Willy's then why the large gap?

 

[horse]

I have no death for Esther nee Willy. If all the children in 1841 census are Hester Willy's then why the large gap?

Yep, certainly a bit odd

Maybe 2x marriage is the answer, death for first one needed though!

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

WILLIAMS, GEORGE WILLY
GRO Reference: 1838 J Quarter in PEMBROKE UNION Volume 26 Page 616

That's the only one in Pembroke.

We need the other Hester in 1841. Too many.

 

[DaveHam9]

Only one Martha in 1851.

Martha Williams
Event Type Census
Event Date 1851
Event Place Saint Mary, Pembrokeshire, Wales
Registration District Pembroke
Residence Note Ferry Lane
Page Number 3
Registration Number HO107
Piece/Folio 2476 / 368
Thomas Williams Head M 38 Jeffreston, Pembrokeshire
Esther Williams Wife F 36 St Brides, Pembrokeshire
Elizabeth Williams Daughter F 10 Monkton, Pembrokeshire
Martha Williams Daughter F 7 Monkton, Pembrokeshire
William Williams Son M 4 St Marys, Pembrokeshire

WILLIAMS, ELIZABETH - GIBBY
GRO Reference: 1841 M Quarter in PEMBROKE Volume 26 Page 667

WILLIAMS, MARTHA - GIBBY
GRO Reference: 1843 S Quarter in PEMBROKE Volume 26 Page 643
WILLIAMS, MARTHA - GIBBY
GRO Reference: 1843 D Quarter in PEMBROKE Volume 26 Page 680

WILLIAMS, WILLIAM - GIBBY
GRO Reference: 1847 M Quarter in PEMBROKE Volume 26 Page 733

 

[horse]

Thomas Williams = Hesther Gibby 1836 says he is a bachelor..

Geoff

 

[horse]

Details sent..

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

Must be 1838 for George.

The 2nd marriage for a Williams to a Gibby to explain 2x Martha.

Can't see Hester in 1871.

 

[horse]

The 2nd marriage for a Williams to a Gibby to explain 2x Martha.

Looking at the reg. entries, I would suggest they are errors for whatever reason..

Are they important?

Geoff