Gilbert/Guilbert and Mead - Somerset & Wiltshire

[Raven]

Hi everyone,

I have just join FH UK. I live in NZ and my Great, Great Grandfather, William Gilbert, born 1800, was one of the first people to settle in the South Island in 1835. He arrived on a whaling ship as a shipwright having served his apprenticeship in the UK. From there he travelled to New York and worked in Burkes ship yard under his older brother who was the foreman. My GGG then joined various ships travelling to Europe, South China Seas and NZ where he married Te Marino.

Williams parents where William Gilbert/Guilbert (birth place Bradford on Avon) and Ann Mead,(born Itford, Somerset) who died in 1860 and 1855. Census records show the family living in various locations in Wiltshire and Somerset, Trowbridge, Freshford, Charterhouse Hinton and Bradford on Avon where William and Ann died.

I would to make contact with descendants of William and Ann or wider family members who live in the UK or the USA.

 

[leefer]

Welcome Raven....what an exiting life your relly had.

I was in Trowbridge today delivering goods and Bradford on Avon is a lovely if quirky little town,the River Avon surrounded by a hilly town which would seem at home in a northern county rather than Wiltshire.

All the best with your research.........Lee

 

[Raven]

Dear Leefer,
Thank you, B on A is certainly somewhere I would like to visit, in fact all of Wiltshire. Yes, Wm Gilbert did have an exciting life, a real 19th century adventurer. On the Sth China Sea runs he was known for defending the ships from pirates. While on his last ship, whaling in the southern oceans of NZ, he and another seaman, mutinied due to the on board conditions and treatment of the younger sailors/cabin boys and both men where put into a dinghy, the ship sailed away, leaving them behind in the middle of the ocean. Fortunately they ended up at what is now the port for Dunedin and made their way north to Banks Peninsular. So the story continues.........

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello Raven,

welcome to FHUK.

If you have some specific queries just post them to the relevant board and someone will try to help you.

Regards,

Dave

 

[marjon]

what an exciting life your ancestor had! I look forward to reading any more stories you have of the gilbert family. One of our members of our FH group is researching Gilbert from the UK, coming to Australia, settling in Adelaide mid 19th Century. Do you have any connections here? If so, I can put them in touch with you.

 

[Raven]

Hi Marjon
Frederick Gilbert B 1900, NZ (grandson on William Gilbert born Bradford on Avon 1800, and younger brother of my GrandFather) went to Australia, year unknown, and died in Sydney. Don't think there is any connection.

 

[Jojo1971]

Hi Raven,

William Gilbert (born 1800 in Wiltshire, England, died 1895 in Okains Bay, New Zealand) & Hine Gilbert (Te Marino - born 1820, died 1888 ) are my Great great grandparents also. They had 13 children. Their daughter Mary Gilbert (born 1849, died 1923) married my Great Grandfather James Tynan (born 1845, died 1941). Mary & James had 11 children - their son John Tynan (born 16 February 1891, died 15 January 1951), my Grandfather, married Pheobe Jacobs (born 22 August 1900, died 9 October 1965). They had 8 children, one of which is my mother Frances Winifred Hose (nee Tynan - married Brian George Hose). I am the second youngest of 13 full brothers & sisters, plus one half brother (adopted out at birth before marriage) & one half sister (from Brian's first marriage).

My mother compiled a family tree as part of the Ngai Tahu claim & for my own families reference in regards to our family history. It is VERY extensive & dates back to Te Marino & William's birth. Te Marino's parents were Te Hau (Father) & Te Kiore (Mother). She was the sister of Chief Tangatahara & she was Princess of Onawe - tribe Ngai Tahu, sub tribes Ngati Irekahu & Ngati Mango. William & Te Marino were married under Maori custom in 1839. Then again at the Roman Catholic station in Pigeon Bay by the Rev Seon on 28 August 1854. Both William & Te Marino were buried at the Okains Bay cemetery. On a side note, the arrival of William in New Zealand - the whaling boat was called "Ajax" - arrived in NZ from New York in 1835, returned to America in 1838 with William on it. It then returned to NZ in 1839, where William settled in NZ upon the boats return to the US.

I could type more, but the post would be TOO big. If you want more dates & names, please email me & I will forward you my contact details. I'd be very interested in what you have discovered in your research, so if I can help in any way, I will

Hi everyone,

I have just join FH UK. I live in NZ and my Great, Great Grandfather, William Gilbert, born 1800, was one of the first people to settle in the South Island in 1835. He arrived on a whaling ship as a shipwright having served his apprenticeship in the UK. From there he travelled to New York and worked in Burkes ship yard under his older brother who was the foreman. My GGG then joined various ships travelling to Europe, South China Seas and NZ where he married Te Marino.

Williams parents where William Gilbert/Guilbert (birth place Bradford on Avon) and Ann Mead,(born Itford, Somerset) who died in 1860 and 1855. Census records show the family living in various locations in Wiltshire and Somerset, Trowbridge, Freshford, Charterhouse Hinton and Bradford on Avon where William and Ann died.

I would to make contact with descendants of William and Ann or wider family members who live in the UK or the USA.

 

[Raven]

Hi JoJo,
thanks for the NZ stuff have all of that as my family is descended from George Gilbert it is the UK end that is the stumbling block. I engaged a UK researcher and found William and Ann's marriage cert and confirmed the other siblings of William (1800) but not William. I would send you my email but not sure how to do this privately in this forum, if you know please send me yours. Jane

Hi Raven,

William Gilbert (born 1800 in Wiltshire, England, died 1895 in Okains Bay, New Zealand) & Hine Gilbert (Te Marino - born 1820, died 1888 ) are my Great great grandparents also. They had 13 children. Their daughter Mary Gilbert (born 1849, died 1923) married my Great Grandfather James Tynan (born 1845, died 1941). Mary & James had 11 children - their son John Tynan (born 16 February 1891, died 15 January 1951), my Grandfather, married Pheobe Jacobs (born 22 August 1900, died 9 October 1965). They had 8 children, one of which is my mother Frances Winifred Hose (nee Tynan - married Brian George Hose). I am the second youngest of 13 full brothers & sisters, plus one half brother (adopted out at birth before marriage) & one half sister (from Brian's first marriage).

My mother compiled a family tree as part of the Ngai Tahu claim & for my own families reference in regards to our family history. It is VERY extensive & dates back to Te Marino & William's birth. Te Marino's parents were Te Hau (Father) & Te Kiore (Mother). She was the sister of Chief Tangatahara & she was Princess of Onawe - tribe Ngai Tahu, sub tribes Ngati Irekahu & Ngati Mango. William & Te Marino were married under Maori custom in 1839. Then again at the Roman Catholic station in Pigeon Bay by the Rev Seon on 28 August 1854. Both William & Te Marino were buried at the Okains Bay cemetery. On a side note, the arrival of William in New Zealand - the whaling boat was called "Ajax" - arrived in NZ from New York in 1835, returned to America in 1838 with William on it. It then returned to NZ in 1839, where William settled in NZ upon the boats return to the US.

I could type more, but the post would be TOO big. If you want more dates & names, please email me & I will forward you my contact details. I'd be very interested in what you have discovered in your research, so if I can help in any way, I will

 

[Jojo1971]

I can give you those now (according to the details I have here given to me by Mum)......

11 children born to William & Hine Te Marino Gilbert:

George: born in Peraki 9 September 1841, married Edith Tatum. Died ?? They had 8 children.
William: born in Peraki 23 May 1843, married Agnes Scott. Died 1933.
Sarah: born in Peraki 11 June 1844, married William Cameron. Died 1944.
Charlotte: born in Peraki 13 August 1845. Died 1848 (burnt).
Robert: born in Tikao Bay 1 November 1848, married Susan (Susannah) Blackbee (Green). Died 1944. They had 11 children.
Mary: born in Tikao Bay 6 September 1849, married James Tynan (my Great Grandfather). Died 1923. They had 11 children.
Samuel: borin in Pigeon Bay 1 September 1851. Died ??
Janet: born in Pigeon Bay 3 June 1853, married Joseph Hart (1st marriage) & Thomas Steele (2nd marriage).....6 children total for both marriages. Died ??
Ann: born in Okains Bay 24 July 1855. Died 1865.
Daniel: born in Okains Bay 27 September 1857. Died ??
Elizabeth: born in Okains Bay 7 June 1863. Died 1881.
Emma: born in Okains Bay 30 March 1864. Died ??
Alfred: born in Okains Bay. Date of birth & death unknown.

I hope this helps.........


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[jay]

Welcome Raven....what an exiting life your relly had.

I was in Trowbridge today delivering goods and Bradford on Avon is a lovely if quirky little town,the River Avon surrounded by a hilly town which would seem at home in a northern county rather than Wiltshire.

All the best with your research.........Lee

There is a gem of a church in B upon A ... Anglos -Saxon and in perfect condition. Good luck with your research Raven and welcome to FHUK. Your posts have made fascinating reading. I had a 2xgrt-uncle who sailed the tea clippers.