GOODGER & JOYCE

[DaveHam9]

NSW Marriage 4994/1881 GOODGER HENRY - JOYCE ANN - WAGGA WAGGA * 11 Apr * probably RC

NSW Death 5556/1893 GOODGER HENRY - JOHN - ELLEN - DUBBO * 28 Jun * no age

I have nothing else on Henry. I can't find anything in Trove before the 1893 probate notice.

Ann remarried.

NSW Death 7514/1936 STANFORD ANNIE - JOHN - JANE - DUBBO * 4 Aug

 

[DaveHam9]

Marriages Mar Qtr 1841 Newcastle on Tyne 25 269
JOICE John & RITCHIE Jane
16 March.

1841 census thanks.

Arrived Apr 1842.

NSW Birth 3495/1858 JOYCE ANNE - JOHN - JANE - PADDINGTON * just 1858 ?

1867
No. 37 12th June Sydney
John Joyce - Widower - Ireland - Stone Mason - 46 - Sydney - John Joyce & Mary Burns - Stone Mason
Sarah Kelly - Widow - Ireland - - - 36 - Sydney - Patrick Lavery & Sarah McCarthy - Farmer
Married in the Cathedral of St. Mary's According to the Rite of the Catholic Church
Parties signed: Witnesses: John Howley ?, Mary Curran
By me Hugh d'Ackermann Officiating Minister

 

[Bootzy]

Marriage..
John Goodger 8 Sept 1863 Wollongong NSW to Ellen Jolliffe – reg 3195


Ellen Goodger died Sept 1925 Nowra NSW – Thomas (1810-1867) & Elizabeth (1810-1894) – reg 12850
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/213949977?searchTerm=ellen goodger
Family arrived 27 July 1857 from St Vaap Cornwall - “Tartar”

Thomas Jolliffe married Elizabeth Curry 8 Sept 1828 St James’s Church Bristol
Elizabeth Curry Shephard baptised 17 June 1810 Marston Magna Somerset to Jeremiah Curry
& Susanna Shepherd – died Elizabeth Curry Jolliffe 26 Dec 1894 Dapto – buried St Lukes Anglican Church cemetery


John Goodger died Dec 1923 Nowra
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/245904109?searchTerm=john goodger
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/111929695?searchTerm=john goodger

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Val.

 

[DaveHam9]

I can't find a birth for Henry Goodger or age at death.

 

[DaveHam9]

Baptism for John Goodger ? Parents may not be John and Ellen as per his death reg ??

... The late Mr. Goodger was born in Lowestoft, county Norfolk, on 13th June 1835. ...

Births Mar Qtr 1841 JOLLIFFE Ellen - Sherborne 8 89 mmn SHEPPARD

 

[DaveHam9]

https://indexes.records.nsw.gov.au/..._4794/Tartar_27 Jul 1857/4_479400059.jpg&No=3
Assisted 'Tartar' 1857 Sydney and/or Newcastle Reel 2138, [4/4794]; Reel 2476, [4/4971]
Thomas JOLLIFFE 43 ?
Elizabeth JOLLIFFE 43
Ellen 14
Arthur 12
Tom 11
James 9
Sarah 5
Robert 2

 

[DaveHam9]

https://indexes.records.nsw.gov.au/...e of Sharon_13 Apr 1855/4_479200109.jpg&No=10
NRS5316/4_4792/Rose of Sharon_13 Apr 1855/
Assisted 'Rose of Sharon' 1855 Sydney and/or Newcastle Reels 2137, 2471
GOODGER John 19

1841 and 1851 census, thanks.

 

[Bootzy]

John Goodger baptism 14 June 1835 Tilney Saint Lawrence Norfolk son of James and Mary Ann Goodger
parents James Goodger married 24 April 1835 Filney Saint Lawrence to Mary Anne Ward


on 1841 census
Terrington St, Clement Wisbech Norfolk – piece 770, book 6, Folio 4, page 5
family on 1851 – Elsworth Cambridge - Caxton, ED 9b, h/h65, Piece 1758, Folio 194, page 16

John arrived 13 April 1855 age 19 NSW on “Rose of Shannon” - he died 29 April 1912
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/239156371?searchTerm=john goodger
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/238754199?searchTerm=john goodger
BDM – 4260/1912 79 yrs - Sydney

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Val.

We have 2x John.

Tilney a long way from Lowestoft.

NSW Death 2662/1924 GOODGER JOHN - JOHN - ELLEN - NOWRA * 29 Dec 1923

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/245904109

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/111929695
The Shoalhaven News and South Coast Districts Advertiser (NSW) - Sat 5 Jan 1924 p.1
PASSING OF THE PIONEERS
MR. JOHN GOODGER
The death occurred on Sunday, the 30th December (at the residence of his daughter, Mrs. H. Smith, Worrigee-street, Nowra), of Mr. John Goodger, an old resident of Cambewarra, ... The late Mr. Goodger was born in Lowestoft, county Norfolk, on 13th June 1835. ... The mortal remains were interred on Monday afternoon in the Church of England portion of the general cemetery, Rev. T. Terry performing the last sad rites at the grave.

Goodger John 29 Dec 1923 88 son/John & Ellen; h/Ellen (Jolliffe) Nowra General NSW Ang B 11, 41
https://austcemindex.com/inscription?id=389235#images

 

[DaveHam9]

NSW Birth 16484/1864 GOODGER MARY A JOHN - ELLEN - WOLLONGONG

NSW Marriage 5499/1885 SMITH HENRY - GOODGER MARY A - WOLLONGONG

We need the details from film 2471 which should list his parents and if they were living in 1855.

 

[DaveHam9]

We need the right parents to get the right 1841 and 1851 census.

 

[Bootzy]

on 1841 census
Terrington St, Clement Wisbech Norfolk – piece 770, book 6, Folio 4, page 5

family on 1851 – Elsworth Cambridge - Caxton, ED 9b, h/h65, Piece 1758, Folio 194, page 16
parents James & Mary Ann nee Ward - marriage 24 April 1835 Filney Saint Lawrence

 

[DaveHam9]

How do we know Val they are the right parents?

If the death reg is correct parents are John and Ellen.

2x John and only one arrival found so far. Only one on the Assisted to NSW list.

The 1923 death fits my tree not the 1912 one.

If the “Rose of Shannon” one died 1912 then he is not the one in my tree.

 

[Bootzy]

John’s sister came out & married in March 1879
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/135688152?searchTerm=waples - goodger
Findagrave
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/152749680/mary-ann-waples

also sister
Phoebe baptised 6 May 1848 Elsworth Cambridge – FHL1040469 – married
July qtr 1870 Mutford Suffolk to John Newson – she died 1916 St Albans NSW reg 13712
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/85882523?searchTerm=phoebe newson
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/239215902?searchTerm=phoebe newson
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial...TY3Mzc0OTE3Ni4yNTYuMS4xNjczNzUwNTk0LjE1LjAuMA..

she & hubby John are with her parents on 1871 census – Lowestoft, St John, Suffolk,
Reg District Mutford, sub Lowestoft, Ed 3, h/h 77, Piece 1779, Folio 58, page 14

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Val.

But I still don't know if those two are sisters of the John who died 1912 or the one who died 1923.