Great Grandfather - Any help would be much appreciated

[Stephen Edwards]

Great Grandfather - Any help would be much appreciated

Hello everyone. This is my first post and I’m fairly new to this genealogy game (a couple of months). Here is my first major snag:

I have the marriage certificate for my paternal grandfather’s parents. Here are the details

Date: 30th March 1907
Place: St. Andrew's Church, Minley, Hampshire, England
Groom: Walter James Horne Edwards | 26 | Bachelor | Electrician | Minley
Bride: Laura Maud Watts | 24 | Spinster | / | Minley
Groom’s Father: John James Edwards | Deceased
Bride’s Father: James Watts | Farmer

My problem is that I am unable to find any records at all for [Walter James Horne Edwards] other that marriages, I have checked births, deaths and censuses until I went boss-eyed. I would be very appreciative if anyone with a bit more experience could give me some hints as to how I can find out some information about him.

I don’t believe that ‘Horne’ is usually used as a given/middle name. I thought that as his father is listed as ‘deceased’, his mother may have remarried to someone with the surname ‘Horne’ which he put before the Edwards. Or maybe the opposite?? Despite extensive searching, I haven’t found anything in the records to support this theory.

Please help me ><. Of all the lines that I am currently researching, this is the one that I am most eager to trace as it is the one that carries my surname -_-"

Thanks in advance.

 

[Cornish Maid]

Hi there,

Based on his age at marriage, that would make Walter's birth year approximately 1881 (if he was telling the truth about his age), I checked 1880 to 1882 and found the following births:

Walter James Edwards born April/May/June Qtr 1880 Chelsea 19 363
Walter James Edwards born July/Aug/Sept Qtr 1880 St Thomas 5b 77
Walter James Edwards born Jan/Feb/Mar Qtr 1881 Hendon 3a 164
Walter James S Edwards born Jul/Aug/Sept Qtr 1881 Greenwich 1d 964

Would it be possible for you to write to the Registrars for the above areas to find out which one (if any) might be yours? My local registrars are really helpful. If i'm faced with a few possiblities (as per the above), I give them the information I already have, ie father's name, and they search the records to see if the information matches up. If they find the correct one it costs me £7; if they can't find it then they simply return my cheque.

I'm afraid I haven't had time to look at the census returns as yet. (or do the dishes come to that )

Will check on this later to see if anyone else has been able to help at all.

Kind Regards
Bex

 

[Cornish Maid]

Another thought... When naming children it was quite often the done thing to give a child the mother's maiden name as a middle name. So you may find that John James Edwards married a Miss Horne. Of course, it doesn't always work this way, but sometimes it's a very helpful clue.

 

[Stephen Edwards]

Thanks for the help. I'll try contacting the registrars. I never knew I could do that.

Much appreciated

 

[joyceawood17]

this I found in the 1891 census, do you know if he had any brothers or sisters

Walter Edwards
Age: 10
Est birth: abt 1881
Rel: Son
Gender: Male
Where born: Burwash, Sussex, England
Town: Marden
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Registration district: Maidstone
Sub-registration district: Yalding
Ada Edwards 4
Floria Edwards 9
John Edwards 30
Robert Edwards 6
Sally Edwards 29
Walter Edwards 10

 

[Stephen Edwards]

I don't know whether or not he had any siblings.

I had seen this census record before but I could not find any bith records to verify whether or not this was the correct Walter.

I'll keep on looking. Thanks for the help.

Let me know if you think of anything else

 

[joyceawood17]

Here may be another census that you might want to check out further, only because I also after using the mothers name, I looked up her first name then using the Horne that you were not sure of where it was from and found a louisa Horne born abt 1851 that would fit in approximate age of this Walters mother. If this census was your ggrandfather.
Walter Edwards
Age: 10
Estimated birth year: abt 1881
Where born: Reddish, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Reddish
Ecclesiastical parish: St Elizabeth
Lancashire England Reg dist: Stockport
Sub-reg dist: Heaton Norris
Annie E Edwards 3
John Edwards 40
Louisa Edwards 40
Samuel Edwards 18
Walter Edwards 10

 

[Stephen Edwards]

Hi joyceawood17. This looks good but where did you find the Louisa Horne born abt 1851? I can't find her in earlier censuses or in the BMD records

 

[joyceawood17]

actually I had found a couple so here they are, both in census and bmd's

1871 England Census
about Louisa Horne
Name: Louisa Horne
Age: 19
Estimated birth year: abt 1852
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Lomer Bollop, Hampshire, England
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Registration district: Droxford
Sub-registration district: Hambledon
Household Members: Name Age
Jane Barrell 52
William Coope 25
Jane Crouch 24
Louisa Horne 19
Elizabeth Quinton 28
Rosa Ann Shaw 22
David Sicus 32
Elizabeth Wilson 51
Forrester Wilson 59
1871 England Census
about Louisa Horne
Name: Louisa Horne
Age: 21
Estimated birth year: abt 1850
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: Peter
Gender: Female
Where born: London, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: All Hallows The Great
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: London City
Sub-registration district: Queenhithe
Household Members: Name Age
Eliza Horne 29
Emma Horne 26
Louisa Horne 21
Peter Horne 71
1861 England Census
Name: Louisa Horne
Age: 11
Estimated birth year: abt 1850
Relation: Daughter
Mother's name: Sarah
Gender: Female
Where born: Blundeston, Suffolk, England
Civil parish: Blundeston
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England
Registration district: Mutford
Sub-registration district: Lowestoft
Household Members: Name Age
George Horne 5
Henry Horne 13
John Horne 17
Louisa Horne 11
Mary A Horne 8
Sarah Horne 39
1861 England Census
Name: Louisa E Horne
Age: 10
Estimated birth year: abt 1851
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: Robert
Mother's name: Sarah S
Gender: Female
Where born: Kingston, Surrey, England
Civil parish: Kingston
Ecclesiastical parish: Kingston All Saints
Town: Kingston
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Registration district: Kingston
Sub-registration district: Kingston
Household Members: Name Age
Ellen E Horne 2
Emily A Horne 12
John H Horne 7
Kate A Horne 5
Louisa E Horne 10
Robert Horne 44
Sarah J Horne 18
Sarah S Horne 42
Emma Mason 20
Frances Pruce 42
Mary Sawyers 18
Charlotte Willis 28
here is some bmd

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index: 1837-1983
Birth, Marriage, & Death
Name: Louisa Horne
Birth: Dec 1851 - Stockbridge, Hampshire, Wiltshire
England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index: 1837-1983
Birth, Marriage, & Death
Name: Louisa Horne
Birth: Sep 1850 - Mutford, Suffolk

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index: 1837-1983
Birth, Marriage, & Death
Name: Louisa Eliza Horne
Birth: Dec 1850 - Kingston, Middlesex, Surrey
I know that this is alot but I hope maybe this will lead you in the correct direction

 

[darkcrystal]

Great Grandfather - Any help would be much appreciated Hello everyone. This is my first post and I’m fairly new to this genealogy game (a couple of months). Here is my first major snag:I have the marriage certificate for my paternal grandfather’s parents. Here are the details Date: 30th March 1907.Place:St. Andrew's Church, Minley, Hampshire, England.Groom:Walter James Horne Edwards | 26 | Bachelor | Electrician | Minley.Bride: Laura Maud Watts | 24 | Spinster | / | Minley.Groom’s Father:John James Edwards | Deceased.Bride’s Father:James Watts | Farmer.My problem is that I am unable to find any records at all for [Walter James Horne Edwards] other that marriages, I have checked births, deaths and censuses until I went boss-eyed. I would be very appreciative if anyone with a bit more experience could give me some hints as to how I can find out some information about him.I don’t believe that ‘Horne’ is usually used as a given/middle name. I thought that as his father is listed as ‘deceased’, his mother may have remarried to someone with the surname ‘Horne’ which he put before the Edwards. Or maybe the opposite?? Despite extensive searching, I haven’t found anything in the records to support this theory.Please help me. Of all the lines that I am currently researching, this is the one that I am most eager to trace as it is the one that carries my surnameThanks in advance.

I realise that this is an old thread, but wondered what the witness names were please? sometimes the witness names can be the key to solving problems..