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NSW Marriage 3817/1898 GREEN SAMUEL - TIVEY RUBY R - NIMITYBELLE * 4 Apr 1898

1913 NSW Electoral Roll - BEGA - BEMBOKA POLLING-PLACE
GREEN Samuel, Greenbrook, farmer
GREEN Ruby Rebecca, Greenbrook, domestic duties
GREEN Ann Maria, Greenbrook, domestic duties

Death 14177/1949 GREEN SAMUEL - JAMES - ANN MARIA - QUEANBEYAN * 22 Apr

Death 16246/1918 GREEN ANN M - FREDERICK - MARY A - BEGA * 4 Oct

Southern Star (Bega, NSW) - Wed 9 Oct 1918 p.2
On Friday evening an old and respected resident of Bemboka passed away at her residence, "Glenbrook" at the ripe age of 81 years. ... She was one of the fine old pioneering families, having come to Australia from Birmingham, England with her parents in 1853 ?? ...Deceased was married to the late Mr James Green, at Greenlands, Monaro and 55 years ago they settled at Bemboka. ... The late Mrs Green was the sister of Mr Jonas Alcock, who is the only ...

Not sure if 1853 is correct. I don't have the arrival yet. I don't have 1841 or 1851 census yet.

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It's not Birmingham.

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Frederick Allcock
Event Type Census
Event Date 1851
Event Place Webheath, Worcestershire, England
Registration District Bromsgrove
Residence Note Foxlidiate Road
Occupation Day Labourer
Birthplace Feckenham, Worcestershire
Page Number 10
Registration Number HO107
Piece/Folio 2047 / 624
Frederick Allcock Head M 43 Feckenham, Worcestershire
Mary A Allcock Wife F 45 Tardebigg, Worcestershire
Arthur Allcock Son M 16 Tardebigg, Worcestershire
Jonas Allcock Son M 6 Tardebigg, Worcestershire
Walter Allcock Son M 3 Tardebigg, Worcestershire

Can't find baptism records.
 
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How curious. Ann Maria married a Green in NSW.

ALLCOCK, JONAS - GREEN
GRO Reference: 1844 M Quarter in BROMSGROVE Volume 18 Page 250 Occasional Copy: A

ALLCOCK, WALTER - GREEN
GRO Reference: 1847 D Quarter in BROMSGROVE Volume 18 Page 199

Ann Maria was born abt 1837 and not with family in 1851.
 
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Frederick Allcock
Event Type Census
Event Date 1841
Event Place Feckenham, Worcestershire, England
Residence Note Webb Heath
Registration District Alcester
Parish Feckenham
County Worcestershire
Page Number 15
Registration Number HO107
Piece/Folio 1197/11 Book 2
Frederick Allcock M 30 Worcestershire
Mary Allcock F 30 Worcestershire
Arthur Allcock M 7 Worcestershire
Ann Allcock F 4 Worcestershire
Harriett Allcock F 2 Worcestershire
Lavina Allcock F 0 Worcestershire
Sarah Green F 15 Worcestershire
 

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Arrival not Assisted on NSW index. Not Assisted or Unassisted to Vic. Not assisted to Qld.

So Unassisted to NSW ?? Not on Mariners site.

Can't search for the marriage in NSW.

System notification: We are conducting a Disaster Recovery Exercise on Sunday 3 March 2019 between 8am and 4pm. Our systems will not be available during this period.
 
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May not be the right one ??

Ann Allcock
Event Type Census
Event Date 1851
Event Place Ipsley, Warwickshire, England
Registration District Stratford-On-Avon
Occupation Nurse Maid
Relationship to Head of Household Lodger
Birthplace Feckenham, Worcestershire
Page Number 32
Registration Number HO107
Piece/Folio 2075 / 105
Ann White Head F 44 Chaddesley Corbett, Worcestershire
Agnes White Daughter F 12 Stoke Prior, Worcestershire
William White Son M 7 Ipsley, Warwickshire
Thomas White Son M 5 Ipsley, Warwickshire
Elizabeth White Daughter F 2 Ipsley, Warwickshire
Richard Allcock Lodger M 46 Feckenham, Worcestershire
Richard Allcock Lodger M 16 Ipsley, Warwickshire
Ann Allcock Lodger F 14 Feckenham, Worcestershire

Richard senior and Frederick may be brothers.

Can't find Richard senior in 1841.
 
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Baptised Redditch, Worcestershire
Richard 28 Apr 1805
Frederick 19 Jul 1807
Thomas ALCOCK & Martha
 

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There is a public tree that has this..

"Death of Mary Ann GREEN (1805–1864)
17 JUN 1864 Drowned crossing Numerella River, Cooma, NSW"


Geoff

EDIT: So arrival before 1864..
 

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Thanks Geoff.

With system down I could not look for deaths.

Not sure I read the arrival date correctly as 1853 so could be 1858. Can't check for first birth in NSW.

Have not found the arrival.

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James Green
Spouse's Name Anne Maria Alcock
Event Date 16 Jun 1855
Event Place Maneroo
Batch: M005930
GS Film 993966
 

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Not sure I read the arrival date correctly as 1853 so could be 1858. Can't check for first birth in NSW.

Have not found the arrival.
Yeah, have been checking for arrival, not seen yet..

Possible, she married a James Green in1855

Mary A Green
Birth Date: 1857
Registration Year: 1857
Registration Place: Cooma, New South Wales, Australia
Parents: James Green & Ann M
Registration Number: 6110

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Thomas Alcock married Martha Wilkinson on the 20th March 1800 at St Bartholomew's, Parish of Tarebigge, Counties of Worcester and Warwick.
Their third son Frederick (baptised 19th July 1807), married Mary Ann Lewis (nee Green) at Redditch on the 3rd February, 1834, and they had a family of eight children:

Walter born January 1st 1833.
Arthur born May 8th 1834. Married Elizabeth Jane Hammond at Cooma on the 16th December, 1857
Ann Maria born February 27th 1837. Married James Green
Harriet born February 25th 1839. Married Christopher Farrell at Nimmitabel on 8th May 1854.
Lavinia born March 23rd 1841
Jonas born December 21st 1843. Married Harriet Tivey in 1867, the had a family of eight.
Mary Ann born January 10th 1846
Walter born November 6th, 1849. Married Sarah Poole at Brown Mountain Station on 26th January, 1868.

In April 1852 Frederick and his family sailed for Australia aboard the "Epaminondas", they arrived at Port Adelaide on the 2nd August that year. They went from there via the Araluen Goldfields to "Dolondondo", the Monaro property of Mary Anne's brother John Green.
 

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John Green was a convict.


ALLCOCK, JONAS - GREEN
GRO Reference: 1844 M Quarter in BROMSGROVE Volume 18 Page 250 Occasional Copy: A

I presume the 'Occasional Copy: A' was re Green or Lewis as maiden name.

Marriages every which way. It gets to Furner eventually.

Jonas born December 21st 1843. Married Harriet Tivey in 1867.

3817/1898 GREEN SAMUEL - TIVEY RUBY R - NIMITYBELLE * 4 Apr

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Goulburn Evening Penny Post (NSW) - Wed 20 Jan 1932 p.1
WEDDING
FURNER - GREEN
Christ Church Bemboka was the scene of a pretty wedding on January 6, when Edith Lillian, second daughter of Mr. and Mrs. Samuel Green, was married to Mr. H. H. Furner, second son of Mrs. and the late O. H. Furner, formerly of "High Knoll" Goulburn. ...
Mr. Gordon Furner, of Chatswood, was best man. ...
Mr. and Mrs. Furner will reside at "Wytaliba" McAlister, in the Crookwell district.


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John Green was a convict.


ALLCOCK, JONAS - GREEN
GRO Reference: 1844 M Quarter in BROMSGROVE Volume 18 Page 250 Occasional Copy: A

I presume the 'Occasional Copy: A' was re Green or Lewis as maiden name.
John Green = Mary Ann's brother?

The occasional Lewis, Sarah b. 1823 looks to have married a Matthew Scattergood and remained in England.

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