Hagin

[cazzand]

Hi,

Come across a new name in family tree Nora Hagin born 1857c but can find no records for her only that she married George Arkright they had a daughter Elizabeth born 1885c can anyone help please.

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello,

Some issue with the name:

Marriages Sep Qtr 1880
Arkwright George Blackburn 8e 481
HAGGIS Nora Blackburn 8e 481
Hagin Nora Blackburn 8e 481

 

[davelambert271]

Hi

The marriage record on DaveHam's post for Nora Haggis is a translators error and is a red herring.
Haggis was the entry before but was Eliza not Norah.

I have followed Norah through the census records from her marriage to 1911
Her birthplace was given as Accrington (near Blackburn) on all years. She had 5 children with George, only James was alive in 1911 acc to the census. The children who sadly died were George, Elizabeth, Martha and possibly Nora

Marriage: 3 Jul 1880 St Peter, Blackburn, Lancashire, England
George Arkwright - 21, fireman, Bachelor, 69 Chapel St.
Nora Hagin - (X), 25, Spinster, 69 Chapel St.
Groom's Father: James Arkwright, joiner
Bride's Father: Derias Hagin, labourer
Witness: James Arkwright, (X); Catherine Hagin, (X)
Married by Banns by: John B. Holden curate
Register: Marriages 1874 - 1891, Page 121, Entry 242
Source: LDS Film 1849646
dave

 

[cazzand]

many thanks for this I will carry on looking for her birth but this has helped alot
and much appreciates

 

[DaveHam9]

Name: Catherine Egan
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1861
Gender: Female
Age: 34
Relationship to Head of Household: Wife
Birthplace: Ireland
Schedule Type: Household
Registration District: Haslingden
Sub-District: 5 Accrington
Ecclesiastical Parish: Christchurch
Parish: New Accrington
Residence County: Lancashire

Name: Honora Egan
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1861
Gender: Female
Age: 8
Relationship to Head of Household: Daughter
Birthplace: Accrington, Lancashire
Schedule Type: Household
Registration District: Haslingden
Sub-District: 5 Accrington
Ecclesiastical Parish: Christchurch
Parish: New Accrington
Residence County: Lancashire

Name: John Egan
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1861
Gender: Male
Age: 6
Relationship to Head of Household: Son
Birthplace: Accrington, Lancashire
Schedule Type: Household
Registration District: Haslingden
Sub-District: 5 Accrington
Ecclesiastical Parish: Christchurch
Parish: New Accrington
Residence County: Lancashire

Name: Mary Egan
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1861
Gender: Female
Age: 4
Relationship to Head of Household: Daughter
Birthplace: Accrington, Lancashire
Schedule Type: Household
Registration District: Haslingden
Sub-District: 5 Accrington
Ecclesiastical Parish: Christchurch
Parish: New Accrington
Residence County: Lancashire

 

[DaveHam9]

Births Sep 1853
Egan Hannah Haslingden 8e 137

Births Jun 1855
Egan John Haslingden 8e 152

Births Sep 1855
Egan James Haslingden 8e 139

Births Jun 1857
Egan Mary Haslingden 8e 157



Deaths Mar 1854
Egan Honor Haslingden 8e 104

Deaths Mar 1857
Egan James Haslingden 8e 107

Deaths Dec 1859
Egan Catharine Haslingden 8e 104


John and Mary, but not James, brothers of a Honora aged 8 in 1861 census with mother Catherine born Ireland. One of the witnesses to the 1880 marriage was a Catherine HAGIN.

 

[DaveHam9]

I'm wondering if I've found the family with the name transcribed differently or is it another family? All the pieces have not fallen into place yet.

Haslingden is the right registration district for Accrington (Old and New).

 

[davelambert271]

Hi dave

I think you have the right family. well done.
this is the actual record, darias, too much coincidence

1861
EGAN, Darias Head Married M 39 1822 Labourer To Stone Mason Ireland
EGAN, Catherine Wife Married F 34 1827 Warehousewoman Ireland
EGAN, Honora Daughter F 8 1853 Accrington, Lancashire
EGAN, John Son M 6 1855 Accrington, Lancashire
EGAN, Mary Daughter F 4 1857 Accrington, Lancashire

Piece: 3064

Folio: 40

Page: 42

Registration District: Haslingden

Civil Parish: New Accrington

Municipal Borough:

Address: 3, Jacob Yard, New Accrington, Accrington

County: Lancashire

 

[DaveHam9]

It took some time.

Accrington is in Whalley Parish but that parish spans four registration districts. I eventually found them searching Haslingden.

Still a few unanswered questions.

 

[davelambert271]

this one may help..

1871
EAGAN, Dorisa Head M 48 1823 Ireland
EAGAN, Catherine Wife F 46 1825 Ireland
EAGAN, Norah Daughter F 17 1854 Lancashire
EAGAN, John Son M 15 1856 Lancashire
EAGAN, Daniel Son M 11 1860 Lancashire
EAGAN, Catherine Daughter F 8 1863 Lancashire
EAGAN, Margaret Daughter F 6 1865 Lancashire
EAGAN, Elizabeth Daughter F 1 1870 Lancashire

Piece: 4145

Folio: 25

Page: 43

Registration District: Haslingden

Civil Parish: New Accrington

Address: Jacob's Court, New Accrington, Accrington

County: Lancashire

 

[DaveHam9]

This explains one question:

Births Sep Qtr 1861
EGAN Daniel Haslingden 8e 146

 

[cazzand]

Could anyone tell me how the name changed so much this is the first time I have come across it is it something to do with how people read the transcriptions your ideas would be appreciated

Cazzand

 

[p.risboy]

Could anyone tell me how the name changed so much this is the first time I have come across it is it something to do with how people read the transcriptions your ideas would be appreciated

Cazzand

I would think the enumerator has written it as heard. Literacy and dialect among the population was also another problem.

How many times have you been asked to spell your name or surname, whilst on the phone, or otherwise.

My own surname, being of 4 letters, still get written wrongly on my snail mail. :biggrin: