HAIN family

[DaveHam9]

Samuel Haine c. 21 Sep 1834 Norton-under-Hamdon, Somerset
James Haine & Mary


Looking for the family in 1841 only.

Thanks,

Dave

 

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1841
Civil Parish: Norton Under Hambdon
Hundred: Houndsborough Barwick and Coker
County: Somerset
RD: Yeovil
Sub-RD: South Petherton
ED: 6; HO107; Piece: 946; Book: 12; Folio: 4; Page: 2

James Haines 30 [Labourer]
Mary Haines 30
George Haines 11
William Haines 9
Samuel Haines 6
Jean Haines 4
Ann Haines 2
David Patch 15 [Labourer]
[All BiC]

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

I have them in shipping record. It looks like the right family except for George = Sampson ??

Assisted to NSW - Arrived 19 Nov 1849
'Petrel' 1849 Sydney and/or Newcastle and family Reel 2136, [4/4786] Page 472; Reel 2459, [4/4912]
HAIN James 42 Farm Labourer Norton Somerset John & Martha - Norton CofE Both None Good None
HAIN Mary 42 Farm Servant Norton Somerset Joseph & May ? Patch - mother lives at Norton CofE Read None Good None
HAIN Sampson 22 Farm Servant Norton Somerset CofE Both
HAIN William 18 Farm Servant Norton Somerset CofE Both
HAIN Samuel 16 Farm Servant Norton Somerset CofE Read
HAIN Jane 13
HAIN Anne 9
HAIN Joseph 7


I'll have to check my tree. I have one HAIN family and two HAINES families and there may be a connection with the different spelling.

Dave

 

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Sampson Hain
Baptism Date: 12 Aug 1827
Baptism Place: Norton-under-Hamdon, Somerset, England
Father: James Hain
Mother: Mary
FHL Film Number: 1526684
Reference ID: item 6 p 28

George Hain
Baptism Date: 19 Apr 1829
Baptism Place: Norton-under-Hamdon, Somerset, England
Father: James Hain
Mother: Mary Hain
FHL Film Number: 1470911
Reference ID: 247 Pg-31

George Looks to have married an Emma Lawrence in 1849 Yeovil RD, a couple of trees also have this..

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

No connection.

Birth 8600/1873 HAINES EVA - THOMAS - CHARLOTTE - BOOROWA

V1854223 41B/1854 HAINES THOMAS - HILDER CHARLOTTE MY= CofE Camden, St John's, Oaks, Picton, Stonequarry

Thomas Haines b. 11 Au 1835
christening: 25 Jun 1837 Wesleyan Sandhurst By Cranbrook, Kent
Thomas Haines & Mary Ann Birch

Death 18014/1919 HAINES THOMAS - THOMAS - MARY A - NOWRA ** 17 Aug


I have no arrival for Thomas junior. Don't know if his parents arrived. Also don't have them in 1841 or 1851.

About 8 possible deaths for Thomas senior and 4 for Mary, 2 if Mary A.

 

[DaveHam9]

George stayed in England and Sampson not in census.

 

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William Hain
Birth Date: 1856
Father: George Hain
Mother: Emma
Birth Place: New South Wales
Registration Year: 1856
Registration Place: Monaro/Manoroo/Monaroo, New South Wales
Volume Number: V18561836 155

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

That was half right then. Sampson not with family.

Sons Samuel and Joseph are the two in my tree via their children.

 

[DaveHam9]

Can't find a Thomas HAIN/HAINES/HAINS Assisted to NSW.

Might be Thomas senior

Death 6565/1878 HAINES THOMAS - THOMAS DIED JAMBEROO - KIAMA ** 5 Feb

Australian Town and Country Journal (Sydney, NSW : 1870 - 1907) - Saturday 2 March 1878 p.41
DEATHS
HAINES.-February 5, at the residence of Mr. Vidler,
Jamberoo, from injuries received by the overturning of the
coach at Bulli Pass, on 18th December last, Mr. Thomas
Haines, sen., for many years a resident of Menangle, aged
79 years and 10 months.

 

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Can't find a Thomas HAIN/HAINES/HAINS Assisted to NSW.

Might be Thomas senior

Death 6565/1878 HAINES THOMAS - THOMAS DIED JAMBEROO KIAMA ** 5 Feb

Not found his arrival yet... That may be his father... This could be Jr.
Thomas Haines
Death Date: 1919
Death Place: New South Wales
Father: Thomas
Mother: Mary A
Registration Year: 1919
Registration Place: Nowra, New South Wales
Registration Number: 18014

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Not found his arrival yet... That may be his father... This could be Jr.
Thomas Haines
Death Date: 1919
Death Place: New South Wales
Father: Thomas
Mother: Mary A
Registration Year: 1919
Registration Place: Nowra, New South Wales
Registration Number: 18014

Geoff

Yes, that's junior.

Charlotte and her family all fixed.

Death 11947/1922 HAINES CHARLOTTE 87 YEARS CROOKWELL CROOKWELL ** 26 Jun

Possibly one more:

HAINES Thomas Death notice 18APR1859 Death 82 late of Parramatta Sydney Morning Herald 20APR1859

 

[DaveHam9]

Are they in Hawkhurst, RD Cranbrook, Kent in 1841?

 

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Are they in Hawkhurst, RD Cranbrook, Kent in 1841?

Don't think so, just double checking :biggrin:

 

[DaveHam9]

We have one more convict. :biggrin:

HAINES Thomas 'Morley' 1817 30/0746 1 Nov 1830 Certificate of Freedom [4/4303; Reel 986] TL 697/917

HAINES Thomas Death notice 18APR1859 Death 82 late of Parramatta Sydney Morning Herald 20APR1859


But son (1798 - 1878 ) and family emigrated on the "Cornwall" as Bounty immigrants 12th May 1839 ???

Can't find that so far.

 

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If this is Thomas Jr. married sister, they may be on the same boat. She is with husband Richard and 2x infants.

New South Wales, Australia, Assisted Immigrant Passenger Lists, 1828-1896
Name: Keturah Young
Birth Year: abt 1820
Age: 18
Arrival Date: 26 Jun 1838
Vessel Name: Westminster

Geoff

 

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We have one more convict. :biggrin:

HAINES Thomas 'Morley' 1817 30/0746 1 Nov 1830 Certificate of Freedom [4/4303; Reel 986] TL 697/917

HAINES Thomas Death notice 18APR1859 Death 82 late of Parramatta Sydney Morning Herald 20APR1859

Yep, was trying to avoid it for you :biggrin:

 

[horse]

If this is Thomas Jr. married sister, they may be on the same boat. She is with husband Richard and 2x infants.

New South Wales, Australia, Assisted Immigrant Passenger Lists, 1828-1896
Name: Keturah Young
Birth Year: abt 1820
Age: 18
Arrival Date: 26 Jun 1838
Vessel Name: Westminster

Geoff

I can't see the rest of the family on the image

 

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This is all I can see for the Cornwall in 1839..

"Voyages
Date Details
1 September 1839 The Ship Cornwall sailed from Gravesend, England, on Sunday, 1 September 1839 with Mary Ann Clout, Thomas Chapman, Walter Weekes, Thomas Weekes and Harriet Beech aboard for Sydney, New South Wales."

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

arrival: ship Cornwall
873 tons
Master: Cow
Origin: Gravesend 1839 May 12
Destination: Sydney 1839 Sep 1

Background
Date Item Details Source
primary source AO 4/4780 p298 [2654]
primary source AO 4/4841 [1301]
1839 Oct 15 alternate port/date of arrival Sydney ao:2502

Passenger list
Surname Other names Notes Source
374 Government Emigrants cja: 403
King Gilbert, Esq surgeon cja: 403
Lewis Captain cja: 403

 

[DaveHam9]

No sign of Thomas and Mary Ann in the Bounty Index.