Hannah LOVELAND

[DaveHam9]

Hello,

Deaths Mar 1859
LOVELAND Hannah Chertsey 2a 23

I'd like a look up please for Hannah in 1851.

Probably a widow aged about 60 born Surrey.

Regards,

Dave

 

[gortonboy]

theres this one?

National Archive Reference:

RG number:HO107
Piece:1594
Folio:79
Page:13

Reg. District:Guildford
Parish:Woking

Address:Knaphill, Woking

County:Surrey

LOVELAND, Hannah Head W F 59 1792 Washerwoman Horsell, Surrey

LOVELAND, John Son Unmarried M 15 1836 Ag Lab Pirbright, Surrey

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks GB.

That would fit. Spouse was George and it's claimed this is his death but I can't seem to find them together in 1841.

Deaths Sep 1842
LOVELAND George Chertsey 4 51

Is that the death of this George?

name: George Loveland
event: Census
event date: 1841
gender: Male
age: 21
birthplace: Surrey
record type: Household
registration district: Chertsey
sub-district: Chobham
civil parish: Horsell
county: Surrey

Three possible explanations. George, spouse of Hannah died before 1841 or they are not together in 1841 or they are together in 1841 but I can't find them. Ok, 4th possibility - age 21 is an error.

Regards,

Dave

 

[oznannie]

Hi, you've probably got this
baptism John parents Hannah & George labourer
Pirbright 17.7.1835

ozn

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Ozn,

I didn't look for that one. It's daughter Mary who ended up in Australia.

Just trying to confirm some details of Mary's parents such as death of George.

Regards,

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Is this John in 1841? Who else is in the household?

name: John Loveland
event: Census
event date: 1841
gender: Male
age: 5
birthplace: Surrey
record type: Household
registration district: Chertsey
sub-district: Chobham
civil parish: Bisley
county: Surrey

 

[juliejtp]

Hi Dave,

Household members.

Bisley Green


Hannah Loveland age 45
Hannah Loveland age 25
Harriett Loveland age 15
Jane Loveland age 10
John Loveland age 5

All born in county

 

[leefer]

This is her Headstone....probably in Chertsey.

It reads......Sacred to the memory of Hannah Loveland.
Wife of James.
Died Feb 3rd 1859
Aged 75.

Inscription reads.

And the lord shall deliver from every evil work and will.
Preserve me into his heavenly kingdom.

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello Julie.

Thank you very much. Now I think George, spouse of Hannah, must have died before 1841. I can't see a burial that fits on FS.

Regards,

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Great find, thanks Lee.

Deaths Mar 1859
LOVELAND Hannah Chertsey 2a 23

Oh. ...wife of James...

Have we got the wrong death for Hannah?


name: John Loveland
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 17 Jul 1835
baptism/christening place: PIRBRIGHT NEAR GUILDFORD,SURREY,ENGLAND
birth date:
birthplace:
death date:
name note:
race:
father's name: George Loveland
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Hannah
mother's birthplace:
mother's age:
indexing project (batch) number: C03946-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 804133, 804134
reference number:

Regards,

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Two possibles:

James Burley Loveland
England, Marriages, 1538–1973
marriage: 19 Feb 1841 St. Mary,​ Lambeth,​ Surrey,​ England
spouse: Hannah Edwards

James Loveland
England, Marriages, 1538–1973
marriage: 20 Oct 1806 Saint Lawrence,​Chobham,​Surrey,​England
spouse: Hannah Brown

 

[juliejtp]

Hi Dave,

There is a probate of a George Loveland dated 1843, mentions wife Hannah and son in law John Howard of the parish Pirbright.

 

[DaveHam9]

I think this is my Hannah.

name: Hannah Stedman
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 18 Aug 1791
baptism/christening place: HORSELL,SURREY,ENGLAND
birth date:
birthplace:
death date:
name note:
race:
father's name: James Stedman
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Hannah
mother's birthplace:
mother's age:
indexing project (batch) number: C03797-2
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 991761
reference number:

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Julie.

Then possibly this one for Pirbright:

Deaths Mar 1840
Loveland George Guildford 4 125

 

[DaveHam9]

Only that 1859 death for a Hannah 1851-1861 in Surrey.

Well, that does not fit with 1791 birth.

Deaths Dec 1868
Loveland Hannah 85 Guildford 2a 31

 

[DaveHam9]

And lots of others, but these fit the 1841 census.

Hannah Loveland
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 14 May 1815 Horsell,​ Surrey,​ England
residence: Horsell,​ Surrey,​ England
parents: George Loveland,​ Hannah

Harriet Loveland
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 27 Jun 1824 HORSELL,​SURREY,​ENGLAND
parents: George Loveland,​ Hannah

Jane Loveland
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 31 Aug 1828 HORSELL,​SURREY,​ENGLAND
parents: George Loveland,​ Hannah


There seemed to be too many baptisms but some of them didn't make it to 1841. I can only find the one marriage for a George and Hannah.

 

[DaveHam9]

Back to this one.

LOVELAND, HANNAH 75
GRO Reference: 1859 M Quarter in CHERTSEY Volume 02A Page 23

That does not fit. Married to a James.

If George died 1842 then need to find the Loveland marriage to John Howard.

Where is that George in 1841 ? Not with Hannah and children ?

Deaths Mar 1840
Loveland George Guildford 4 125 age 0

The right death for Hannah ?

 

[DaveHam9]

John Howard married Ann Loveland ??

George and Hannah had a daughter Ann and a daughter Hannah.

1841 ??
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQK4-3S7

 

[DaveHam9]

Deaths Sep 1842
LOVELAND George Chertsey 4 51 age 51

 

[DaveHam9]

The gravestone in post #8 rules out the 1859 death that is in the tree. There seems to be no other death for Hannah that fits.

Can a Hannah be found with a James in 1851?

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGK9-FQF