Harriet OLIVER

[DaveHam9]

New South Wales, Australia, Assisted Immigrant Passenger Lists, 1828-1896
William Oliver
Age: 27
Voyage Arrival Date: 20 Apr 1839
Vessel Name: Morayshire
Origin Location: Beckley, Sussex, England

Naomi Oliver
Age: 27
Voyage Arrival Date: 20 Apr 1839
Vessel Name: Morayshire
Origin Location: Uddimore, Sussex, England
Children's Names: James, Ernest (should be Harriet not Ernest)

A Native of Uddimore in Sussex, daughter to Richard Freeman of the same place.
Calling Farm House Servant
Age 27 in February 1839
Children 1 male & 1 female
James 11 months -
Harriet age 3


Looking for Harriet's birth/baptism and the marriage of her parents.

Thanks,

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Harriet's mother remarried a few months before Harriet married.

Wesleyan Methodist Chapel Macquarie Street Parramatta
No. 6
17th September 1856
William Channell Widower 8 3 North Petherton Somerset England Farmer 46 Camden Camden Thomas Channell & Elizabeth (maiden name Therkles ?) Farmer
Naomi Oliver Widow 6 1 Uddermore Sussex England - 44 Camden Camden Richard Freeman & - (maiden name Bates) Labourer
By me Thomas Adams
Both x mark
Witnesses: William Stimson, Harriet Oliver

 

[DaveHam9]

Also seeking to confirm Charles FURNER was born 1 Apr 1824 Maresfield, E Sussex (Charles & Mary WATERS)

Thanks,

Dave

 

[barbarajoh]

Charles Furner

Not finding him but his sister is in the non conformists. Hope it helps
Barbara

Baptism
TNA Reference RG4 / Piece 2967 / Folio 10
Full Name Mary Ann Furner
Date of Baptism 10th September 1826
Gender Female
Date of Birth 5th May 1826
Parish of Abode Maresfield
County of Abode Sussex
Registration Town/County Lewes St John, Sussex
Ceremony Performed By Charles Haydon
Father's Name Charles Furner
Father's Profession Brick Layer
Mother's Name Mary Furner
Maternal Parents Profession James & Mary Waters

 

[barbarajoh]

Also an Owen in 1828 in the non conformists

Barbara

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Barbara.

The family is Wesleyan and I expected to find a record for Charles, the eldest son at Maresfield. His brother Owen is my line.

I don't know where 1 April 1824 came from. It may not have been the NC baptism but a date recorded in a marriage or a Bible or a death ...


Re the marriages

William Oliver to Naomi Freeman abt 1835 probably Sussex but could be Kent - William, Farmer & Brickmaker, son of John

Richard Freeman to Maria Bates abt 1810.

Birth/baptism for Naomi Freeman abt 1812.

Dave

 

[barbarajoh]

Tried just putting in Charles and no surname but his baptism must not have survived. Putting in just Furner brought up George James and Sarah Jane. Do you have theirs?

No marriage for Naomi that I can find

Barbara

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Barbara.

Yes, I have those two thanks.


Just as in Australia some of the records are as Turner.

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

This could be the first born.

Caroline Freeman
Gender Female
Christening Date 19 Aug 1810
Christening Place PLAYDEN, SUSSEX
Richard Freeman & Maria

Unusual batch number K042512

K------ Birth or christening extraction Use the instructions for finding C------ batch number sources.

Seems to be the only baptism on FS for children of Richard & Maria.

Not on FreeREG.

Sussex will remain a problem area for my tree.

Dave

 

[horse]

Possible..

1841
Civil Parish: Udimore
County: Sussex
RD: Rye
Sub-RD: Beckley
ED: 9; Piece: 1106; Book: 8; Folio: 19; Page: 11

Cornelius Piper 53 [b. Sussex. Ag lab]
Philip Piper 9 [do]
Caroline Freeman 25 [do. Ind]

Geoff

EDIT: Udimore, Beckley common in that line of yours?

 

[horse]

1851
Civil Parish: Udimore
County: Sussex
RD: Romney Marsh
Sub-RD: New Romney
ED: 4a; Piece: 1634; Folio: 573; Page: 15

Cornelius Piper 62 [b. Brede. Ag lab]
Caroline Piper 41 [b. Berkley] sic
Philip Piper 10 son [b. Ewhurst. Ag lab] Image age looks like 19y.
Philidelphia Piper 8 dau [b. Udimore]
Pashur Piper 4 son [do]
Edgar Piper 2 son [do]

Geoff

 

[horse]

Possible..

Marriages Q2 1842
FREEMAN Caroline
GAIN William
GUTSELL Sarah
PIPER Cornelius
Rye
7, 569

Geoff

 

[horse]

Also a case for a Caroline Freeman marrying a Robert Whiteman, there are possible links with NSW, later... Possibly 2x Caroline Freeman..

Geoff

EDIT: Should say as per trees

 

[Bootzy]

1861 census – Beckley Sussex (Little Udimore )

Cornelius Piper 71 b Brede Sussex – dies June qtr Rye Sussex 1865
Caroline wife 50 b Beckley Sussex – dies April 1902 Hailsham Sussex – deaf & blind on census

Philadelphia daug 17 b Little Udimore Sussex – married George Bryant Sept qtr 1865 – she died 1886 age 43

Pasher 13 daug b same – deaf & blind on census – cannot locate her death

Edgar 11 son b same – married Elizabeth Moor 1879 Rye – died March 1892 Rye Sussex

Philip b 1832 – 1861 Rye Sussex

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

Thanks Val.

I know nothing about a Whiteman & Freeman marriage. No Robert Whiteman in my tree yet.

The Charles Furner of Maresfield who married Harriet Oliver of Beckley (dau of William Oliver & Naomi Freeman) also married Harriet Whiteman of Udimore (dau of Thomas Whiteman of Udimore & Mary Butchers of Brede).

I also have Gutsell in my tree.

Philadelphia also appears as a given name for some Furners.

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Seems the two marriages and the baptisms I'm after will have to wait until someone gets the CDs or records are put on-line.

Very little available for Brede, Beckley, Udimore. Only a few parishes on FreeREG.

 

[DaveHam9]

James 11mo in 1839 on shipping record and Harriet age 3.

Death 1683/1903 OLIVER JAMES - WILLIAM - NAOMI - GOULBURN * 19 Feb 1903

These don't fit

Births Jun 1838
Oliver James Osborn Midhurst 7 381
Births Sep 1838
OLIVER James Midhurst 7 353

Can't find a baptism for James or Harriet on FS or FreeREG.

Can't be this one (right RD) as the family arrived Apr 1839.

Births Dec 1839
Oliver Harriet Battle 7 203

 

[DaveHam9]

Back in one hour. Time for me and the computer to cool down. It's a hot day. Going to be a long hot summer.

 

[horse]

Pasher 13 daug b same – deaf & blind on census – cannot locate her death

They had him/her as a son in 1851

Possible death, I haven't checked it out yet..

NBI:
21 Jul 1864
Patia PIPER
Age 17
Brede, St George

Geoff

 

[horse]

Deaths Q3 1864
PIPER Patia
Rye
2b, 1

Geoff