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HARRIS family in Wales

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1851
HO107 Piece 2464 Folio 448 Page 23
Civil Parish: Cadoxton Juxta Neath
Eccl. district: Skewen
County: Glamorgan
Registration District: Neath
Sub-RD: Ystradgunlais
ED: 3d
No of Schedule: 94
Address: Village of Skewen
John Harris Head Mar 39 Copperman Glamorgan
Jane Harris Wife Mar 36 Glamorgan
Elizabeth Davies Step dau 15 At Home Glamorgan
Ann Harris dau 9 At Home Glamorgan
Jane Harris dau 8 At Home Glamorgan
John Harris son 7 Glamorgan
William Harris son 5 Glamorgan
Mary Harris dau 3 Glamorgan
Henry Harris 11mo Camarthen

Marriages Mar 1840 Neath 26 514
HARRIS John & DAVIES Jane

Image for marriage of John Harris & Jane Davies
March 21 1840 St Cadoxton Church
John, copperman, Meol pen y Wern, father John Harris Copperman
Jane, widow, Brin coch, father Evan Williams collier
both full age, John signed, Jane mark
Witnesses: William Harris & William Williams

Looking for John in 1841.

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We are unable to display search results due to technical difficulties.

Anyway FS is no use to me as it does not have occupations.

1861
RG9 Piece 4091 Folio 38 Page 5
Civil Parish: Llanguick
County: Glamorgan
Registration District: Neath
Sub-RD: Ystradgunlais
ED: 15
No of Schedule: 25
Address: Hamlet of Alltgreig
[HARRIS]
John Harres Head Mar 49 Puddler - Iron Works Neath Glamorgan
Jane Harres Wife Mar 47 Cadoxton Glamorgan
Jane Harres dau Unm 19 Piler - Iron Works Cadoxton
John Harres son 17 Puddler - Iron Works Cadoxton
William Harres son 15 Puddler - Iron Works Cadoxton
Mary Harres dau 13 Piler - Iron Works Cadoxton
Henry Harres son 11 Grocer ? Llanelly Carmarthen
Sarah Harres dau 9 Scholar Neath
Page 6
Evan Harres son 6 Scholar Llanguick
Thomas Harres son 4 Llanguick
Rachel Harres dau 1 Llanguick
 

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Baptism
County Glamorganshire
Place Cadoxton-Juxta-Neath
Church St Cattwg
RegisterNumber
DateOfBirth
BaptismDate 15 May 1814
Forename Jane
*** -
FatherForename Evan
MotherForename Hannah
FatherSurname WILLIAM
MotherSurname
Abode Cadoxton
FatherOccupation Labourer
Notes
FileNumber 16791


I have no baptism yet for John.

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1841 Census

John isn't included with Jane Harris, Elizabeth Davies and Hannah Davies, presumably 2 of her children from previous marriage. Either he wasn't at home that night or he has been missed off when writing up the Census.

Tried search using John Harris and occupation copperman - no results.
 

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Thanks trace.

From what I could find searching on FS even without the occupation there did not seem to be a John who fitted assuming he was in Glamorgan.

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Evan POWELL & Anne JONES
Banns 13 Apr 1832 Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorgan

1851
HO107 Piece 2463 Folio 69 Page 12
Civil Parish or Township: Briton Ferry
County: Glamorgan
Country: Wales
Registration District: Neath
Sub-RD: Neath
ED: 3c
No of Schedule: 43
Address: Britton Ferry
Evan Powell Head Mar 39 Rougher in Iron Works Cyfarthfa
Anne Powell Wife Mar 39 Ffynon ? Tydfil
David Powell Son Unm 18 Merthyr
Margaret Powell Dau 15 Merthyr
Hannah Powell Dau 13 Merthyr
Rees Powell Son 11 Pontypridd
Anne Powell Dau 8 Merthyr
Martha Powell Dau 3 Briton Ferry

1861
RG9 Piece 4084 Folio 59 Page 9
Civil Parish: Briton Ferry
County: Glamorgan
Country: Wales
Registration District: Neath
Sub-RD: Neath
ED: 5
No of Schedule: 45
Address: 5 Vernon Place
POWELL Evan Head Mar 51 Rollerman in Iron Works Newbridge
POWELL Ann Wife Mar 50 Merthyr
POWELL Rees Son Unm 22 Baller in Iron Works Treforest
Page 10
POWELL Martha Dau 13 Scholar Briton Ferry
POWELL Mary Dau 10 Scholar Briton Ferry


Looking for Evan and Ann in 1841 thanks.

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I've searched for Evan, Anne, David, Margaret, Hannah and Rees and no sign of the family in 1841 ??

POWELL, REES - JONES
GRO Reference: 1838 S Quarter in CARDIFF Volume 26 Page 320

Census has Rees born Pontypridd so is that the right one?

Age 11 in 1851 does not fit.

And birth reg for Hannah 13 in 1851 b. Merthyr. ??

No problem with Martha.

Births Mar 1848 POWEL Martha Neath 26 472 mmn JONES

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POWELL, REES - JONES
GRO Reference: 1838 S Quarter in CARDIFF Volume 26 Page 320

Census has Rees born Pontypridd so is that the right one?

Age 11 in 1851 does not fit.
Working with such popular names and ages a bit out it's difficult to say, but likely..

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I still can't find what RD it is in before 1863.

PONTYPRIDD REGISTRATION DISTRICT
Registration County : Glamorganshire (1837-1974), Mid Glamorgan (from 1974).
Created : 18.7.1863 (out of Cardiff and Methyr Tydfil registration districts).

It's not listed in either.

Looks like there is no reg for Hannah or Rees.

Hannah 1839 +/- 2

POWELL, HANNAH - JONES
GRO Reference: 1837 D Quarter in CRICKHOWELL Volume 26 Page 213
POWELL, HANNAH - JONES
GRO Reference: 1839 M Quarter in NEWTOWN AND LLANIDLOES Volume 27 Page 134
POWELL, HANNAH - JONES
GRO Reference: 1841 D Quarter in ABERGAVENNY Volume 26 Page 5

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I still can't find what RD it is in before 1863.

PONTYPRIDD REGISTRATION DISTRICT
Registration County : Glamorganshire (1837-1974), Mid Glamorgan (from 1974).
Created : 18.7.1863 (out of Cardiff and Methyr Tydfil registration districts).

It's not listed in either.
Yeah, it's a bit dubious, possibly a separate Q. for a Welsh expert :rolleyes:

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Ann looks ok.

POWELL, ANN - JONES
GRO Reference: 1842 S Quarter in MERTHYR TYDFIL UNION Volume 26 Page 389


Three different pob for Evan in census - Cyfarthfa, Newbridge, Treforest

1861
RG9 Piece 4084 Folio 59 Page 9
Civil Parish: Briton Ferry
County: Glamorgan
Country: Wales
Registration District: Neath
Sub-RD: Neath
ED: 5
No of Schedule: 45
Address: 5 Vernon Place
POWELL Evan Head Mar 51 Rollerman in Iron Works Newbridge
POWELL Ann Wife Mar 50 Merthyr
POWELL Rees Son Unm 22 Baller in Iron Works Treforest
Page 10
POWELL Martha Dau 13 Scholar Briton Ferry
POWELL Mary Dau 10 Scholar Briton Ferry

Treforest (Welsh: Trefforest) is a village in the southeast area of Pontypridd, ...
That age is a better fit but still not sure it's the right reg for Rees.
 
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POWELL, HANNAH - JONES
GRO Reference: 1837 D Quarter in CRICKHOWELL Volume 26 Page 213
POWELL, HANNAH - JONES
That's interesting, Crickhowell is in Brecknockshire.. When searching for the family in 1841, results for places in Brecknockshire come up :rolleyes:

Problem is, there are so many Powells :eek:

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Deaths Sep 1872 POWELL Evan 61 Neath 11a 294

BI 19 Aug 1872 Evan POWELL 61 Briton Ferry/Llansawel, St Mary & St Clement

No Probate record found.

Deaths Dec 1878 POWELL Ann 67 Neath 11a 350

BI 13 Nov 1878 Ann POWELL 67 Briton Ferry/Llansawel, St Mary & St Clement
 

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No David aged abt 8 and no Margaret aged abt 5.

Rees and Hannah would sort of fit and if Ann was Hannah ...

Other census have Ann same age or one year younger than Evan.

Rees Powell
Event Type Census
Event Date 1841
Event Place Llandeilo Vane, Breconshire, Wales
Residence Note Aberkyrnog
Gender Male
Age 2
Birthplace Breconshire
Registration District Brecknock
Parish Llandeilo Vane
County Breconshire
Page Number 6
Registration Number HO107
Piece/Folio 1368/7
Evan Powell M 40 Breconshire
Howell Powell M 50 Breconshire
Howell Powell M 4 Breconshire
Rees Powell M 2 Breconshire
Elizabeth Powell F 25
Mary Powell F 6 Breconshire
Gwen Powell F 0 Breconshire
Elizabeth Jones F 50
Ann Davies F 20

Perhaps not with three possible reg in Brecknock for Rees with mmn not Jones.
 

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