Harry Jackson

[Baz69]

Hi folks, I'm trying to find information on my families man of mystery my paternal grandad. He never talked about his origins or parents. After he passed away any documents my dad found had all the names blacked out. My dad never met his own grandparents so he's a dead end. The only info I have is
Harry Jackson dob 2nd March 1906
Married Edith Halliwell 16th July 1932 St Peter's Church Chorley Lancs
Fathers name Richard
I have very little experience in this so any pointers would be greatly appreciated. I just don't know where to go next.

 

[solidrock2]

This is possibly him..
JACKSON, HARRY mmn LORD GRO Reference: 1906 M Quarter in ROCHDALE Volume 08E Page 53
Possible parents..
Marriages Sep 1900
Jackson John Joseph Rochdale 8e87
Lord Elizabeth Ann Rochdale 8e87
1911 census..
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X4MH-5L3
This maybe Harry in 1939...

Harry Jackson — Worsley U.D. Lancashire England 1 Spring Clough Avenue, Walkden.
Edith Jackson is also on this record

Tree's on Ancestry have Harry born 1905 and the 1939 register has his birth blank. There is another Harry born 1905 with no mmn.
How sure are you that the marriage is correct. When did Harry die?
Who's father is Richard?

 

[ptjw7]

Maybe better 1939
Harry Jackson 2 Mar 1905
Edith Jackson 9 Nov 1907
redacted record
John Beyon Jackson 13 May 1939
Leyland UDC

There is a birth for John B Jackson mmn Halliwell in Newton Lancs

 

[Baz69]

This is possibly him..
JACKSON, HARRY mmn LORD GRO Reference: 1906 M Quarter in ROCHDALE Volume 08E Page 53
Possible parents..
Marriages Sep 1900
Jackson John Joseph Rochdale 8e87
Lord Elizabeth Ann Rochdale 8e87
1911 census..
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X4MH-5L3
This maybe Harry in 1939...

Harry Jackson — Worsley U.D. Lancashire England 1 Spring Clough Avenue, Walkden.
Edith Jackson is also on this record

Tree's on Ancestry have Harry born 1905 and the 1939 register has his birth blank. There is another Harry born 1905 with no mmn.
How sure are you that the marriage is correct. When did Harry die?
Who's father is Richard?

I have a copy of the wedding certificate for Harry & Edith he was 26 in 1932, Richard is Harry's dad, Harry died in 1990 in Chorley.

 

[juliejtp]

Is Richard father to Harry or Edith? Do you know Richards occupation? You posted the above before I posted.
Now we know Richard is Harrys dad, can you confirm Richards occupation.

 

[Baz69]

Maybe better 1939
Harry Jackson 2 Mar 1905
Edith Jackson 9 Nov 1907
redacted record
John Beyon Jackson 13 May 1939
Leyland UDC

There is a birth for John B Jackson mmn Halliwell in Newton Lancs

John Bryan Jackson is my dad 😁

 

[Baz69]

Is Richard father to Harry or Edith? Do you know Richards occupation? You posted the above before I posted.
Now we know Richard is Harrys dad, can you confirm Richards occupation.

Richard's occupation was labourer, Harry was listed as a farm labourer

 

[solidrock2]

Long shot, there is a Harry Jackson b1905 Barrow in Furness, father Richard mother Elizabeth.
Marriages Dec 1898
Jackson Richard Tyson Bootle 10b1215
Jackson Elizabeth Bootle 10b1215

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X492-FSW

Also Harry Jackson b1904 Burnley, grandson.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X4MJ-4TK

JACKSON, HARRY mmn JOHNSON GRO Reference: 1904 J Quarter in THE BURNLEY UNION Volume 08E Page 221

Maybe...
Marriages Sep 1905
JACKSON Richard Slater Lancaster 8e1651
JOHNSON Sarah Lancaster 8e1651

 

[Baz69]

Long shot, there is a Harry Jackson b1905 Barrow in Furness, father Richard mother Elizabeth.
Marriages Dec 1898
Jackson Richard Tyson Bootle 10b1215
Jackson Elizabeth Bootle 10b1215

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X492-FSW

Also Harry Jackson b1904 Burnley, grandson.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X4MJ-4TK

JACKSON, HARRY mmn JOHNSON GRO Reference: 1904 J Quarter in THE BURNLEY UNION Volume 08E Page 221

Maybe...
Marriages Sep 1905
JACKSON Richard Slater Lancaster 8e1651
JOHNSON Sarah Lancaster 8e1651

That first one looks interesting, I'll mention the daughters to dad see if it sets any alarms off 😁

 

[juliejtp]

Who are the witnesses to the marriage? They may be relatives from your grandfathers side.

 

[Baz69]

Who are the witnesses to the marriage? They may be relatives from your grandfathers side.

The witnesses were my grandmas step brother and his wife.

 

[Ellie7]

Have you looked under Harold?

 

[juliejtp]

According to memory doesn’t WW1 service records have childrens names and date of births, also wifes maiden name and date of marriage. That's if Richard served and his service record survived (as many didn’t due to an incendiary bomb in 1940).

 

[Baz69]

According to memory doesn’t WW1 service records have childrens names and date of births, also wifes maiden name and date of marriage. That's if Richard served and his service record survived (as many didn’t due to an incendiary bomb in 1940).

Would I not need his service record number to search that? He would have been 49 when WWI started would he have been too old?

 

[juliejtp]

There are WW1 service records on subscription sites, (you wouldn’t need a service number). It’s a matter of looking through these one by one. It’s a long shot, but seeing you don’t have much to go on, I wouldn’t rule it out.

 

[juliejtp]

So you have age age for Richard year of birth estimated 1865? where did you get that from?

 

[Baz69]

So you have age age for Richard year of birth estimated 1865? where did you get that from?

That was just a guess based on a link further up the thread someone was kind enough to find for me.

 

[juliejtp]

You can’t definitely be sure it’s the right one. On your 1st post you mentioned documents with names blacked out. What sort of documents? Would you be able to get copies of these?.

 

[juliejtp]

Richard born 1865 Thwaites Cumberland, in 1901 his occupation is given as plumbers labourer (shipyard).

 

[Baz69]

You can’t definitely be sure it’s the right one. On your 1st post you mentioned documents with names blacked out. What sort of documents? Would you be able to get copies of these?.

My dad says he has put them somewhere 'safe' which he now can't find, it was Harry's army service book as far as I know. Next time I visit I'm gonna have to check the attic!