Helen McKENZIE

[DaveHam9]

Hello,

1841
Piece: SCT1841/595 Place: Irvine -Ayrshire Enumeration District: 4
Civil Parish: Irvine Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: Irvine
Folio: 4 Page: 9
Address: Burns Street
Surname First name(s) *** Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
MCKENZIE William M 40 Journeyman Taylor Ayrshire
MCKENZIE Agnes (Wife) F 40 Ayrshire
MCKENZIE Jane F 20 Muslin F Ayrshire
MCKENZIE Margaret F 15 Muslin F Ayrshire
MCKENZIE James M 15 Appren Tailor Ayrshire
MCKENZIE William M 12 Ayrshire
MCKENZIE Agnes F 11 Ayrshire
MCKENZIE Helen F 9 Ayrshire
MCKENZIE Mary F 7 Ayrshire
MCKENZIE Peter M 5 Ayrshire

1851
Piece: SCT1851/595 Place: Ayr -Ayrshire Enumeration District: 4
Civil Parish: Irvine Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: Irvine
Folio: 0 Page: 13 Schedule: 62
Address: Burns Street
Surname First name(s) Rel Status *** Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
MCKENZIE Agnes Head W F 52 Ayrshire - Irvine
MCKENZIE Margaret Dau U F 26 Muslin Sewer Ayrshire - Irvine
MCKENZIE Agnes Dau U F 20 Muslin Sewer Ayrshire - Irvine
MCKENZIE Helen Dau U F 18 Muslin Sewer Ayrshire - Irvine
MCKENZIE Mary Dau U F 16 Muslin Sewer Ayrshire - Irvine
MCKENZIE Peter Son U M 14 Tailor Apprentice Ayrshire - Irvine


I'd like a look up please for Helen in 1861 and 1871.

Regards,

Dave

 

[woodlander]

Married by 1871 maybe ?- didn't find a match for her as McKenzie
Possibility in 1861:

MCKENZIE, Helen Head Unmarried 28 Muslin Sewer Dundonald Ayrshire
MCKENZIE, Wm Nephew 9 Scholar Irvine Ayrshire
Piece:595 Folio:0 Page:24 Registration District:Irvine
Civil Parish: Dundonald
Address:Fullarton Street, Dundonald County:Ayrshire

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Woody,

I'll see if I can find more by tracing the nephew.

Can't see a baptism for William.

Possibly son of James or William, 15 & 12 in 1841.

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello Woody,

Helen married in 1878 Bonhill, Dumbarton to ...

you guessed it Thomas ANGEL :2fun:

 

[DaveHam9]

The middle name was a GREAT help:

name: Helen Mckenzie
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 17 Apr 1831
baptism/christening place: RELIEF CONGREGATION, IRVINE, AYR, SCOTLAND
birth date: 24 Mar 1831
birthplace:
death date:
name note:
race:
father's name: William Mckenzie
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Agnes Izat
mother's birthplace:
mother's age:
indexing project (batch) number: C19080-1
system origin: Scotland-VR
source film number: 889478
reference number: 2:1684FN6


1897 ANGEL THOMAS M 69 AYR /AYR 578/01 0281

Page 94
1897 Deaths in the District of Ayr in the County of Ayr
No 281 - Thomas ANGEL Ferryman (married to Helen Izat McKenzie) - 1897 June Eleventh 7 H. A.M. 68 Princess Street Newton Ayr - M - 69 years - Thomas Angel Pensioner (Decd.) Mary Angel M.S. Clarke (Decd.) - Apoplexy 21 days as Cert. by W. G. Laurie M.D. - Peter McKenzie brother-in-law 40 Shamrock Street Glasgow - 1897 June 11th at Ayr Arthur Morgan Registrar


Pensioner = Army Pensioner ex 40th of Foot.

 

[DaveHam9]

I still can't find the parents of nephew William.

 

[woodlander]

I haven't had any more luck either Dave - too many Burns suppers at this time of year - the neeps, tatties and haggis are no bother, it's all the wee drams I get in trouble with :2fun: :2fun: :2fun:

 

[DaveHam9]

Ok, thanks Woody.

I'll return to this one some other time.

Only 2nd of month and I've spent 60 credits on SP and paid for 2 marriages from GRO. :2fun:

 

[woodlander]

Bread 'n' jam for you before long then

 

[DaveHam9]

Bread and lard. :2fun:

 

[juliejtp]

Hi Dave,

Familysearch has a marriage for a William Grant Mckenzie to a Elizabeth Marshall, 4 Jun 1875 - Kelvin Glasgow. No fathers names.

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Julie. How did you choose that particular one?

I've not yet tried to trace either of Helen's brothers William or James.

Middle name Grant does not help me. We are assuming that it is the right Helen in 1861.

I've also not yet checked how close Dundonald is to Irvine. Closer to Irvine than to Kilmarnock.

Searching SP for post-1854 births is impossible for common names with no field for either parent.

 

[DaveHam9]

Found this one:

James Mckenzie
Scotland Marriages, 1561-1910
marriage: 22 Sep 1848 Kilmarnock,​Ayr,​Scotland
spouse: Catherine Mitchell

William b. abt 1852 Irvine could fit.

No baptisms in Ayr with parents James & Catherine in FS 1848 - 1860.


Searching for possible ones with middle name Izat only finds this one:

Agnes Izat Mckenzie
Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950
birth: 25 Jul 1829
christening: 16 Aug 1829 RELIEF CONGREGATION,​ IRVINE,​ AYR,​ SCOTLAND
residence: 1829 Irvine,​ Ayrshire,​ Scotland
parents: William Mckenzie,​ Agnes Izat