Helen WOODRUFF nee THATCHER

[DaveHam9]

NSW Death 28760/1943 WOODRUFF HELEN - CHARLES ROBERT - ANNE - MOSMAN * 7 Nov * no age

Vic. Marriage 1884 WOODRUFF William John Mackay (b. Portland) - THATCHER Helen (b. -) Vic. #5685

(b. -) the '-' means that her pob is not recorded on the fiche.

The Argus (Melbourne, Vic.) - Sat 3 Jan 1885 p.1
Marriages
WOODRUFF - THATCHER.-On the 23rd ult., by special licence, at Christ Church, South Yarra, by the Rev. Horace F. Tucker, William John Mackay, only son of the late John Woodruff, H. M. Customs, Melbourne, to Helen, eldest daughter of the late Charles E. Thatcher, of Brighton, England.


Vic. Birth 1857 WOODRUFF William John Mackay - John - Eliz McKAY - b. Portland, Vic. #11310

 

[DaveHam9]

No death in Vic. index for a Charles Thatcher who would fit.

Deaths Dec 1860
Thatcher Charles Robert [58] Brighton 2b 147

That's the death of Charles Robert senior. Junior died in China ??

 

[DaveHam9]

Helen born in NZ but not in the index ??

 

[DaveHam9]

NSW Death 6320/1897 WOODRUFF ELIZA - JAMES - LUCINDA - ST LEONARDS * 24 May * age 80

Eliza Mackay born where ?

Big difference in age ?

The Argus (Melbourne, Vic.) - Tue 14 Jul 1863 p.4
DEATHS
WOODRUFF.-On the 13th inst., at Emerald Hill, Mr. John Woodruff, formerly of Deal, and for some years landing waiter in H.M. Customs, Melbourne, aged thirty-five years.

Marriage of John Woodruff to Eliza Mackay ?? Not in NSW or Vic. index.

 

[DaveHam9]

John born 1828 Deal and Eliza born 1817 Wicklow.

NZ 1852 ?? Not in the index.

 

[emeltee]

John Woodruff baptised 9 January 1828 Deal, Kent parents William Knight Woodruff and Elizabeth Mary

William Knight Woodruff married Elizabeth Mary White 13 June 1825 in Deal

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks emeltee.

Seems none of the events in NZ were registered.

Arrival in SA not yet found.

South Australian Register (Adelaide, SA) - Sat 15 Nov 1851 p.3
UNCLAIMED LETTERS.-OCTOBER 31, 1851
..., John Woodruff, ...

Seems rather odd. In NZ in 1852 where they supposedly married and in SA in 1852.

Gold Diggers from South Australia
1852 to 1853
WOODRUFF J consigned 1 oz 5 dwt of gold to WOODRUFF C A which arrived by escort 3 on 6-7-1852. Note: Delivered to WOODRUFF Mrs.

 

[emeltee]

John Woodruff and family in Kent 1851 Census

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SG1X-B1D

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks emeltee.

Then expect arrival in SA to be late 1851.

No Woodruff on list for late 1851 or early 1852.

 

[DaveHam9]

1861
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7RQ-38N

Deaths Jun Qtr 1873
WOODRUFF William Knight 70 Eastry 2a 465

 

[DaveHam9]

Deaths Dec Qtr 1853
Woodruff Elizabeth Mary [47] Eastry 2a 401

William must have remarried.

Marriages Jun Qtr 1855
BIRCH Mary Eastry 2a 909
WOODRUFF William Knight Eastry 2a 909

 

[DaveHam9]

I can't find William in 1871 on FS.

 

[emeltee]

1871
RG10/1004/F22/p35
96, Lower Street, Deal
W K Woodruff 69 Gentleman Walmer
Mary Woodruff 66 wife Sandwich

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks emeltee.

I didn't try W K. Still not found on FS.

 

[DaveHam9]

 

[DaveHam9]

Birth for Thomas John Woodruff ? No son Thomas with the family in 1851.

Marriages Dec Qtr 1851
Neame Theodore William Sutton Eastry 5 261
Woodruff Elizabeth Mary Eastry 5 261

 

[DaveHam9]

Some issues here with names and ages.
1841
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQ23-YWY

 

[emeltee]

Thomas John Woodruff was baptised 28 March 1826 at St George church Deal.

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks emeltee.

I'm wondering if 'Ann' is Jno in 1841.

 

[emeltee]

Thomas John Woodruff and family in 1851

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGLC-JJQ

Ann Woodruff, daughter of William Knight and Elizabeth Mary baptised in Deal 23 January 1829.

1841 Census definitely says Ann