Hello and

[TrishG]

Hello Hello
well Im here looking for connections , possibly

we are living in Scotland and just seeking some family information about folks who may have gone oversees

our family names are Lang/Blackley (fathers side) . I followed some threads on both but I wasnt sure who was looking for who, so thought Id put my own post out
My father was John MacLean Lang (Elderslie) and my grandaprents and great granparents were wine merchants in Paisly/Johnstone

thanks

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello and welcome to the Forum.

Jessie is my great grandfather's sister.

Marriage 1886 LANG JOHN - BLACKLEY JESSIE - PAISLEY /RENFREW 573/00 0264

Page 132
1886 Marriages in the District of Paisley in the County of Renfrew
No. 264 - 1886 Sixth July at Clark Town Hall Paisley After Banns according to the forms of the U. P. Church
[Signed] John Lang - Spirit Shopman - Bachelor - 22 - 77 High Street Paisley - John Lang Baker (Master) Jane Lang M.S. Mitchell (dec.)
[Signed] Jessie Blackley - Threadmill Worker - Spinster - 24 - 23 Broomlands Paisley - Thomas Blackley Iron moulder (Journeyman) Janet Blackley M.S. Neil (dec.)
[Signed] Jas. Brown D.D. Minister
[Signed] A. Blackley Witness, B. Macadam Witness
Registered 1886 July 7th at Paisley Hugh Allison Registrar

Dave

 

[TrishG]

Hello thankyou for your message

perhaps I am looking at the wrong John M Lang, my father and grandfather are both JM Lang, and wine merchants. And I was brought up in Catherine Blacklocks house in Elderslie . My father used to talk about great aunt Kate, guess this must be her

I had been trying to find where the Blacklock side of the family joined with Langs

thanks

 

[DaveHam9]

Birth 1887 LANG JOHN MITCHELL Paisley 573/ 1315

1901
Registration No: 573/1
Registration District: Paisley
Civil Parish: Paisley
County: Renfrewshire
Roll: CSSCT1901_204 Page 19
ED: 1 Schedule: 98
Address: 27 Broomlands
LANG John Jr Head 37 Spirit Merchant Rothesay Buteshire
LANG Jessie Wife 39 England
LANG John Son 13 Scholar Paisley Renfrewshire
LANG Archd. Son 12 Scholar Paisley Renfrewshire
LANG Jas Son 8 Scholar Paisley Renfrewshire

Source, Paisley Directory and General Advertiser 1906/7:
Lang, John, jun., Wine and Spirit Merchant, 20 Broomlands - ho. Marsilla, Elderslie Road, Elderslie.

Death 1908 LANG JOHN 44 Johnstone and Elderslie 573/2 30

Death 1963 LANG JOHN MITCHELL 76 Johnstone (Renfrew) 573/2 213

I don't have a copy of either death cert. I have 6 credits left on SP and I'm saving them for now.

 

[DaveHam9]

I had not fully traced the three sons of John & Jessie but now I've found this marriage which looks to fit.

LANG JOHN MITCHELL
MACLEAN CHRISTINA M PRE
1916
573/1 281
Paisley

Death 1966
LANG
CHRISTINA M P
[MACLEAN]
79
573/2 232
Johnstone (Renfrew)

 

[DaveHam9]

Birth 1922
LANG JOHN MACLEAN
M
573/2 143
Johnstone and Elderslie


I've not found the connection yet to Blacklock.

 

[TrishG]

John Mitchell Lang and Christina Maclean are my granny and grandpa, and John Maclean Lang born 1922 is my father

T

 

[DaveHam9]

It looks to fit with 2x John M Lang and spirit merchants and Elderslie.

Father of John Mitchell Lang is John Lang born 1863.

Birth 1863 LANG JOHN M 558/ 175 Rothesay

John b. 15 Sep 1863 Rothesay, Bute, Scotland
John LANG & Jean MITCHELL
Batch C115581

1871
Registration No: 573/1
Registration District: Paisley High Church
Civil Parish: Paisley High Church
County: Renfrewshire
Roll: CSSCT1871_102 Page 11
ED: 4 Schedule: 52
Address: 78 High St
John Lang Jr Head 27 Master Baker Employing 6 Men & 1 Boy Paisley
Jane Lang Wife 28 Paisley
John Lang Son 7 Rothesay Bute
Andrew Lang Son 5 Paisley
Janet Lang Dau 3 Paisley
James Lang Son 3mo Paisley
Janet McLauchlan Servant 18 Campbelltown Argyll

1881
Registration No: 573
Registration District: Paisley
Civil Parish: Paisley High Church
County: Renfrewshire
Roll: CSSCT1881_173 Page 19
ED: 32 Schedule: 121
Address: 77 High St
LANG John Junr. Head W 37 Master Baker Paisley Renfrew
LANG John Son 17 Apprentice Baker Paisley Renfrew ? [Rothesay]
LANG Andrew Son 15 Assistant in Warehouse Paisley Renfrew
LANG Janet Dau 12 Scholar Paisley Renfrew
LANG James Son 10 Scholar Paisley Renfrew
LANG Maggie Dau 6 Scholar Paisley Renfrew
LANG Jane Dau 1 Paisley Renfrew
Mc EWING Flora Servant 26 General Servant Islay Argyll

1891
Registration No: 573
Registration District: Paisley
Civil Parish: Paisley High Church
County: Renfrewshire
Roll: CSSCT1891_189 Page 2
ED: 24 Schedule: 11
Address: 15 Broomland St
LANG John Head M 27 Spirit Merchant Rothesay Buteshire
LANG Jessie Wife M 28 England
LANG John M Son 4 Paisley Renfrewshire
LANG Archibald B Son 2 Paisley Renfrewshire
MITCHELL Kate Servant 25 Johnstone Renfrewshire

1901
Registration No: 573/1
Registration District: Paisley
Civil Parish: Paisley
County: Renfrewshire
Roll: CSSCT1901_204 Page 19
ED: 1 Schedule: 98
Address: 27 Broomlands
LANG John Jr Head 37 Spirit Merchant Rothesay Buteshire
LANG Jessie Wife 39 England
LANG John Son 13 Scholar Paisley Renfrewshire
LANG Archd. Son 12 Scholar Paisley Renfrewshire
LANG Jas Son 8 Scholar Paisley Renfrewshire

Source, Paisley Directory and General Advertiser 1906/7:
Lang, John, jun., Wine and Spirit Merchant, 20 Broomlands - ho. Marsilla, Elderslie Road, Elderslie.

Death 1908 LANG JOHN 44 Johnstone and Elderslie 573/2 30

 

[DaveHam9]

Births Mar Qtr 1862 BLAKELEY Jessie - Liverpool 8b 79 mmn NEIL

Correct spelling is Blackley but it is in records with many variations of spelling.

Jessie c. 11 Dec 1862 Grove Street Chapel, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Thomas BLACKLEY & Jane
FHL Film 1595425
Reference ID: item 15

1871 *Not found on A*
Registration No: 573
Registration District: Paisley
Civil Parish: Paisley High Church
County: Renfrew
Roll: CSSCT1871_
ED: Schedule: 10
Address: 57 Broomlands St
Isabella Blackley Head W 67 Ireland
Mary Blackley Dau Unm 34 Mill Worker Ireland
Catherine McNaughton Dau Mar 31 Mill Worker Ireland
Ann Bechett Dau Mar 24 Mill Worker Paisley
Isabella Blackley Gr Dau 11 England
Jessie Blackley Gr Dau 9 Scholar England
James Bechett Gr Son 3 Glasgow
Sarah Bechett Gr Dau 1 Glasgow
James Gibson Lodger Unm 22 Fire Clay Worker Kirkinteluch near Glasgow

1881
Registration No: 573
Registration District: Paisley
Civil Parish: Paisley High Church
County: Renfrewshire
Roll: CSSCT1881_173 Page 11
ED: 25 Schedule: 60
Address: 23 Broomlands St
Catherine McNaugton Head 60 [?] Dressmaker Ireland [Sister Mary is 5 years older]
Isabella Blackley Mother 78 Ireland
Mary Blackley Sister Dau (Niece) ? 48 Mill Worker Ireland
Thomas Blackley Nephew 26 Coal Merchant England
Archibald Brackley Nephew 20 Servant General England
Jessie Brackley Niece 19 Mill Worker England


Death 1907 LANG JESSIE [BLACKLEY] 45 JOHNSTONE AND ELDERSLIE /RENFREW 573/02 0112
Page 38
1907 DEATHS in the Distrtict of Johnstone & Elderslie in the County of Renfrew
No. 112 Jessie Lang (married to John Lang Spirit Merchant) - 1907 June Twenty-seventh 5h. 15m. P.M. Marsilla Elderslie - F - 45 years - Thomas Blackley Iron Moulder Janet Blackley M.S. Neil (Deceased) - Cancer of the Uterus 8 months as cert. by John Holms M.D. - John Lang, Jr. Widower (Present) - 1907 June 28th at Johnstone - Wm. G. Fleming Registrar

 

[DaveHam9]

Does this address fit?

Kuranda, Roundhill Drive, Elderslie.

 

[TrishG]

Hello yes this was where I was brought up in kuranda

my grandparents named house after a family member went to Australia and settled in kuranda

this is fascinating
thankyou so much for all this info

i am still trying to work out the blackly connection as well

 

[TrishG]

I had not fully traced the three sons of John & Jessie but now I've found this marriage which looks to fit.

LANG JOHN MITCHELL
MACLEAN CHRISTINA M PRE
1916
573/1 281
Paisley

Death 1966
LANG
CHRISTINA M P
[MACLEAN]
79
573/2 232
Johnstone (Renfrew)

the three sons are my great uncles
James (Jimmy) moved to California not sure when
Archie married and lived in Paisley - 2 children , 1 died in WW2
and John - had two sons , one my father

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks.

I had no marriage for A B.

LANG ARCHIBALD BLACK
LYLE GRACE LANE
1917
573/1 149
Paisley

Death 1970
LANG GRACE LANG
[LYLE]
80
573/1 1188
Paisley

 

[DaveHam9]

LYLE GRACE LANG
F
1889
573/ 2364
Paisley

LYLE GRACE LANG
F
1889
573/ 1881
Paisley

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello yes this was where I was brought up in kuranda

my grandparents named house after a family member went to Australia and settled in kuranda

this is fascinating
thankyou so much for all this info

i am still trying to work out the blackly connection as well

Jessie's Aunt Catherine died in the house.

Death 1915 McNAUGHTON CATHERINE BLACKLEY JACK F 78 JOHNSTONE AND ELDERSLIE /RENFREW 573/02 0227

Page 76
1915 DEATHS in the District of Johnstone & Elderslie in the County of Renfrew
No. 227 - Catherine Jack Widow
1st of Adam McNaughton Schoolteacher
2nd of William Jack General Merchant
1915 November Twenty-third 0h 55m P.M. Kuranda Roundhill Drive Elderslie - F- 78 years - John Blackley Master Mason (deceased) - Isabella Blackley M.S. MacGuire (deceased) - Carcinoma Uteri as cert. by Thomas Watt M.B. - A. B. Lang Grand-nephew - 1915 November 25th At Johnstone Wm. G. Fleming Registrar

 

[DaveHam9]

1886 LANG JOHN - BLACKLEY JESSIE PAISLEY /RENFREW 573/00 0264

Page 132
1886 Marriages in the District of Paisley in the County of Renfrew
No. 264 - 1886 Sixth July at Clark Town Hall Paisley After Banns according to the forms of the U. P. Church
[Signed] John Lang - Spirit Shopman - Bachelor - 22 - 77 High Street Paisley - John Lang Baker (Master) Jane Lang M.S. Mitchell (dec.)
[Signed] Jessie Blackley - Threadmill Worker - Spinster - 24 - 23 Broomlands Paisley - Thomas Blackley Iron moulder (Journeyman) Janet Blackley M.S. Neil (dec.)
[Signed] Jas. Brown D.D. Minister
[Signed] A. Blackley Witness, B. Macadam Witness
Registered 1886 July 7th at Paisley Hugh Allison Registrar


Jessie's parents. Lots of variations of Blackley.

Thomas BLAIKLEY
Spouse: Janet NEIL
Marriage: 7 Aug 1852 High Church Paisley, Renfrew, Scotland
Husband age: 22
Wife age: 23
Batch M115738

07/08/1852 BLAIKLEY THOMAS - JANET NEIL/FR942 M Paisley High Church 573/001 0040 0276

No. 1087 1852 Aug 7
Thomas Blaikley 22 Iron Moulder 5 Love St Middle Parish Paisley
Janet Neil 23 10 Wellmeadow High Parish Paisley
2 Proclamations Aug 8 Aug 15 Fee 4/-

 

[DaveHam9]

Jessie's brother Thomas is my great grandfather. He ended up in Queensland in the Kuranda/ Atherton Tableland area.

Thomas Blackley 'Duke of Westminster' 31 Aug 1883 IMM/118 p.192 M1699
From Plymouth 4 Jul 1883 Capt. Cox, Dr. Woodward & Matron Mrs Gunn
Steerage - Blackley Thomas 30 - arrived Cooktown 21 Aug 1883

Merchant & Businessman

The Northern Miner (Charters Towers, Qld.) - Tue 15 May 1900 p.2
... Thomas Blackley, of Montalbion, storekeeper ...

Morning Post (Cairns, Qld.) - Fri 5 Sep 1902 p.3
... The township of Atherton seems to be forging ahead ... a contract had been let to Mr Fred Grau for the building of a new store for Mr Thomas Blackley, who is at present manager for Jack and Newell at Watsonville ...

Qld. Death 8 Nov 1943/B63967 Blackley Thomas - Thomas Blackley - Janet Neil

 

[DaveHam9]

Jessie's father Thomas.

1861
RG9 Piece 2658 Folio 15 Page 30
Civil Parish: Liverpool
Eccl. parish: St Aidans
County: Lancashire
Registration District: Liverpool
Sub-RD: St Martin
ED: 53
No of Schedule: 175
Address: 94 New Hedley St
Thomas Blackley Head Mar 30 Iron Moulder Ireland
Janet Blackley Wife Mar 30 Scotland
John Blackley Son 8 Scholar Scotland
Thomas Blackley Son 6 Scholar Liverpool
William Blackley Son 4 Scholar Liverpool
Isabella Blackley Dau 2 Liverpool
Archibald Blackley Son 11wks Liverpool

1871
RG10 Piece 3826 Folio 5 Page 3
Civil Parish: Kirkdale
Eccl. parish: St Mary
County: Lancashire
Registration District: West Derby
Sub-RD: Toxteth Park
ED: 98
No of Schedule: 15
Address: 67 Westminster Rd
Thomas Blackley Lodger Widr. 38 Iron Moulder Scotland [Ireland]
Page 4
Thomas Blackley Lodger 16 Railway Clerk Liverpool Lancashire
William Blackley Boarder 15 Shop Errand Boy Liverpool Lancashire
Archibald Blackley Boarder 12 Scholar Liverpool Lancashire

Death 1915 BLACKLEY THOMAS 86 PAISLEY /RENFREW 573/01 1005

Page 335
1915 Deaths in the District of Paisley in the County of Renfrew
No. 1005 - Thomas Blackley Ironmoulder Widower of Janet Neil -
1915 August fifth 10h 45m P.M. 2 Great Hamilton street Paisley -
M - 86 years - John Blackley Mason (dec.) Isabella Blackley M.S. Maguire (dec.) -
Apoplexy & Hemiplegia 3 mos As certified by R Brownridge M.B. -
Archibald Blackley Son 24 Ferguslie -
1915 August 6th at Paisley Hugh Allison Registrar

 

[DaveHam9]

Jessie's mother's death.

Deaths Dec 1863 BLACKLEY Jennett [34] Liverpool 8b 50

RD Liverpool - Sub-district St Martin - County Lancaster
No. 458 - Third December 1863 94 New Hedley Street - F - 34 years - Wife of Thomas Blackley Iron Moulder Journeyman - Cancer 15 months Certified - Thomas Blackley present at death 94 New Hedley Street Liverpool - Third December 1863 - Henry Shaw Deputy Registrar

 

[DaveHam9]

Birth 04/11/1851 LYLE WILLIAM - GEORGE LYLE/GRACE LANG FR2428 M 559/ 70 477 Abbey

Marriage 1880
LYLE WILLIAM
PARKER CHRISTINA
570/ 23
Lochwinnoch

Death 1903 LYLE CHRISTINA [PARKER] 54 ADAM 573/1 517 Paisley

Birth 09/04/1848 PARKER CHRISTINA - ROBERT PARKER/MARGARET ADAM FR665 F 620/ 30 246 West Kilbride