Help totally stuck

[bluey]

I have been trying to find out what happened to my maternal grandfathers mother,apparently as the family story goes she died in childbirth,but since i started researching i cannot find her death certificate....i only have her name and address where she was living at the time of grandfathers birth (which is different from the family story).......now i'm stuck.

Any help would greatly received

 

[gibbo]

Hi, welcome to the forum

Are you able to post a name and some dates for us?

 

[Ellie7]

If you have her maiden name from your Grandfathers birth cert, then look for the marriage. You can then look for a death.

Ellie

 

[bluey]

Thank you for the welcome Gibbo,the info i have is ....

Martin Beck Brown,born 4/3/1927 in 6 Wharf street Stockton on Tees.
mother name was Hannah Brown (no age )
fathers name James Brown( possibly born 1888 but in Glasgow)

I cant find a marriage certificate for Hannah and James or a death certificate either,as i said apparently died in child birth.

My grandfather Martin was told (or believed that) he was born in Redruth Cornwall.

Thank you in advance for anyone who takes the time to read my post and any offers or suggestions of help on where to go from here.

 

[Bootzy]

Hi Bluey,
just for anyone that can help, here is his birth:

Name: Martin B Brown
Mother's Maiden Surname: Beck
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1927
Registration district: Stockton
Inferred County: Durham
Volume Number: 10a
Page Number: 151

possible though, Beck could be her maiden name but she could have married before James Brown, so possibly look for marriages for James Brown around that area/time to a Hannah .....

Was there any other children born to James?
regards
Val

 

[DaveHam9]

That's the only Brown birth in the index 1920 - 1930 RD Stockton with mother's maiden name = Beck


Brown is a name that would not be out of place in Redruth. I have one in my tree.

There does not appear to be a death in the area in early 1927 as Brown or Beck.

 

[gibbo]

Martin Beck Brown,born 4/3/1927 in 6 Wharf street Stockton on Tees.
mother name was Hannah Brown (no age )
fathers name James Brown( possibly born 1888 but in Glasgow)

On Martin's birth certificate does it state who registered his birth and a date the birth was registered.

 

[bluey]

Thanks Bootzy, Daveham9 and Gibbo,

My grandfather was an only child,no siblings that he was aware of or that i am aware of but im new to all this and im going between scottish and english records.

i couldnt find a death in the area either so that why i wondered if they moved to scotland after martin was born

I cannot find the paperwork i had for martin,(i had copies) might have to go down the route of getting a hard copy,at the moment that isnt an option.

 

[bluey]

maybe a bit of luck,i found a death for Hannah B. Brown in durham area mar 1928 10a 471 but is there a way i can see death certificate without ordering and paying for it?

the dates would could possibly fit, Hannah not dying during birth but within the first year

 

[stockpot]

Stockton-On-Tees where Martin was born is about 10 miles from Redcar, I wonder did he later mix that up with Redruth ?

 

[bluey]

hi stockpot there is no mix up as we had no connections with Redcar while my grandfather was alive,all born n breed in Glasgow Scotland,pure coincidence i ended up here

 

[gibbo]

maybe a bit of luck,i found a death for Hannah B. Brown in durham area mar 1928 10a 471 but is there a way i can see death certificate without ordering and paying for it?

the dates would could possibly fit, Hannah not dying during birth but within the first year

Maybe the local archives / library might have a death or funeral notice which could give more information.

 

[gibbo]

Name Hannah B Brown
Event Type Death
Registration Quarter Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration Year 1928
Registration District Durham
County Durham
Event Place Durham, Durham, England
Age (available after 1866) 45
Birth Year (Estimated) 1883
Volume 10A
Page 471
Line Number 143

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QV4Y-6ZTM

 

[bluey]

Thanks again for the help received.

Thats my next step,also found a death record for Hannah Beck sept quarter 1927 in durham 10a 330

I did think age 43/44/45 a bit old to be having first child,but never say never,then i looked on another search and found scottish records...

Hannah Beck

census 1911 2 matches
births 1900-1930 1 match
death 1900-1930 1 match
valuation roll 1925 1 match

Hannah Brown

census 1901 71 matches
census 1911 76 matches
birth 1900-1930 78 matches
marriage 1900-1930 2 (male)
51 (female)
baptisim 2 matches
valuation roll 1905 4 matches
1915 1 match
1920 5 matches
1925 10 matches

wills 1900-1925 4 matches

now i just need to figure out how to find out which one is my Hannah

 

[stockpot]

Have you thought that Hannah may have been a widow when she married James Brown? Then her surname would not have been Beck when she married but when Martin was born she would give her maiden name as Beck.

 

[bluey]

Ah no i hadnt actually thought of that,i have a photograph of Hannah and James and they both look quiet young.

I will need to find out which Hannah,if any belong to Martin.

 

[gibbo]

Bluey who raised Martin? And did James ever remarry? Just wondering if someone else raised Martin if there would be any records anywhere and if James did remarry his marriage cert. should state whether his a widow etc.

 

[gibbo]

6 Wharf street Stockton on Tees.
mother name was Hannah Brown (no age )
fathers name James Brown( possibly born 1888 but in Glasgow)

The electoral register would be interesting to see who else lived at this address.

 

[bluey]

Hi Gibbo,Martin was raised by his father James and he never remarried,he lived with Martin and his wife until his death in 1959.

which census are you talking about to check?

 

[gibbo]

which census are you talking about to check?

Not a census but a electoral register, Re voters list.