Help wanted with Taylor/Baker

[TaylorTree]

Hi,

If anyone can help with this brick wall id be most grateful... im trying to find out more about this couple...whether they had children...or a census, death/probate possibly. I seem to be hitting brick walls after finding marriage and them both separate with families on 1901 census in uk.

Heres the marriage...

Fredrick Daniel Baker
Birth Date: 1886
Birthplace: Stroud, Glouct. Engand. Age: 23

Spouse's Name: Nannie Taylor
Spouse's Birth Date: 1883
Spouse's Birthplace: Heapey, Lancs, England.
Spouse's Age: 26

Event Date: 17 Nov 1909 Event Place Glace Bay, Cape Breton, Nova Scotia


If anyone can assist in anyway id be REALLY grateful, thanks!

Taylor.

Ps also hitting brick wall with nannies sister Minnetta Elizabeth Taylor... If anyone happens to come across her aswell thatd be also great!!
Minnetta went over to canada with nannie and family in 1909 and no sign of her since. I know her mother and other sister helena spent time in new york aswell as canada and back and forth from uk but no sign of minnetta ...
Her details are
born jun 1883, heapey, Lancashire.

Family -
father John Taylor
mother Rebecca Taylor mn snailham
Siblings -
Helena,nannie,dinah,thomas.

Thankyou again to anyone that takes the time to look anything up for me...

 

[horse]

Hi

Something to ponder...

Frederick Daniel Baker
Estimated birth year: abt 1886
Age at enlistment: 18
Birth Parish: Minchinhampton
Birth County: Gloucestershire
Document Year: 1904
Regimental Number: 9896
Regiment Name: Manchester Regiment
Number of Images: 6

Image, Quote:
Mother, Hannah Baker, 174 Harcourt St. [Looks like Ardwick/Andwick]
It also notes bro's; Wm Henry, Francis, Reginald and Gilbert.
1905 [5 May] He passed for promotion to Corporal.
1907 [11 Jan] he was discharged owing to enlistment in the Royal Canadian service, Reg. Infantry. End Quote.

Geoff

 

[horse]

This looks like the family in 1891..

Civil Parish: Minchinhampton
Town: Minchinhampton
County/Island: Gloucestershire
RD: Stroud
Sub-RD: Minchinhampton
ED: 3; Piece: 2027; Folio: 39; Page: 9

Frederick Baker 30 [Life Insurance Agent]
Hannah Baker 31
William H Baker 10 [Schoar]
Florence A Baker 8 [do]
Frederick D Baker 4 [do]
Ethel M B Baker 3
Mabel A Baker 2
Reginald N Baker 1
All b. Minchinhampton.

1901

Civil Parish: Minchinhampton
Town: Box
County: Gloucestershire
RD: Stroud (Gloucs)
Sub-RD: Minchinhampton
ED: 3; Piece: 2441; Folio: 36; Page: 3

Hannah Baker 41 [Laundress, own account at home]
Frederick D Baker 14
Mabel Baker 12
Gilbert Baker 7 [b. Box, Glouc]
Ada Baker 6 [do]
Alice Baker 5 [do]

Geoff

 

[horse]

U.S., World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918
Frederick Daniel Baker
City: Hartford
County: Hartford
State: Connecticut
Birthplace: Gloucestershire,England
Birth Date: 29 Aug 1886
Race: Caucasian (White)
Draft Board: 1

Image, Quote:
Born: Michinhampton
Married with one child
Occ: Gas fitter
Military service: Corporal, England. End Quote.

 

[horse]

Frederick may have married a second time, the only records I can find from 1920 are with a Catherine/Katherine, unless of course she is the 'Nannie' in post #1 and assuming it's the correct Frederick.

Quote:
1920 United States Federal Census
Frederick D Baker
Age: 38 [33]
Birth Year: abt 1882 [abt 1887]
Birthplace: England
Home in 1920: Ellington, Tolland, Connecticut
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1911
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Catherine Baker
Father's Birthplace: England
Mother's Birthplace: England
Home Owned: Own
Able to Read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Frederick D Baker 38 [33]
Catherine Baker 45
Frederick T Baker 3 [3 5/12]. End Quote

Geoff

 

[horse]

This looks like Rebecca and daughter Helena in 1910...

Quote
1910 United States Federal Census
Rebecca Taylor
Age in 1910: 46
Birth Year: abt 1864
Birthplace: England
Home in 1910: Lockport Ward 4, Niagara, New York
Race: White
Gender: Female
Immigration Year: 1909
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Widowed
Father's Birthplace: England
Mother's Birthplace: England
Rebecca Taylor 46 Widow
Helena Taylor 20 Single
Image says Rebecca has had 11 children and 4 still living. End Quote

Geoff

Edit: See what you mean about travelling back and forth, with Helena mainly'

 

[horse]

No luck with Minnetta yet...

I'm sure I've come across this family before, I think Minnetta turns up in the US somewhere...

Snailham, Rebecca's maiden name rings a bell also, was there an uncle in Canada?

Geoff

 

[TaylorTree]

Hi thankyou for the replies
Uncle... I thought that too as I did find a passenger list with helena and I think Nannie traveling from us into canada with relative listed as uncle... Although I didn't find any record of said uncle going too or being in us or canada. I'm trying to find this passenger list again to provide details but I didn't seem to save it...

Minnetta I draw a blank on .... I'm now debating whether she just used middle name Elizabeth as this is what she was listed as on first move to canada with family.

Frederick and Catherine - I too came across those records and I'm not sure that it's the same Frederick... I'm looking for their marriage record to see what the date was, whether he was a widower maybe? Or for him to remarry while Nannie was alive should I be able to find a divorce record possibly?
Wish I could find a 1910/ 1911 census for Fred and Nannie ... But still looking.... No look for any birth records with them both listed as parents either...I have used the lancs parish register site for nannies family in England, is there a site similar to this that lists baptism/christenings in canada and the us do you know?

Taylor.

 

[horse]

This looks interesting, Rebecca and family in 1901, this must be the first move to Canada that you mention..

Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935
Rebecca Taylor
Age: 38
Estimated birth year: abt 1863
Date of Arrival: 26 Sep 1901
Vessel: Corean
Port of Arrival: Halifax, Nova Scotia
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England and St Johns, Newfoundland
Roll: T-495
Image has:
Nancy 18 [could be Nanny]
Elizabeth 16 [Is this Minnetta?]
Thomas 11
Helena 10
Dinah 2

Geoff

 

[TaylorTree]

Hi 'horse' , yes that is the passenger list I came across and am about as sure as I can be that that's my family.
Nancy I believe to be Nannie yes and Elizabeth spelt just Eliz on the original to be Minnetta Elizabeth.

John isn't with them, but his name being so common any passengers lists I come across for similar years I can't be sure of and there was also a 1911 census in the uk that was pretty convincing...

Dinah the other sister died not long after arriving in canada... So they were there for a time atleast but looking at the New York census of Rebecca and helena I think that covers the census... I can't find any census's for any after that date! Frustrating to say the least... Leaving only bmd ... I'm currently relying on findmypast worldwide but they have something going on with the site at the mo that I'm sure isn't bringing up all records available. ..
I'm debating upgrading ancestry uk to worldwide if nothing improves and see if that brings any more clues... Or a census ... For somebody ! Fingers crossed!

 

[TaylorTree]

Dinah's death - listed address,21 bloomfield street, halifax, canada.
20/12/1901