Henry EDWARDS & Marion MURRAY

[DaveHam9]

Henry EDWARDS & Marion MURRAY
29 Jul 1846 Edinburgh Parish, Edinburgh, Midlothian
Batch: M119851

1851
Civil Parish: Edinburgh St John
County: Midlothian
Address: 8 Cowgate
Henry Edward Head 31 Journeyman Tailor India B S, East
Marrion Wife 21 St Johns Edinburgh
Robert son 3 Ha ? Greyfriars Edinburgh
Marrion dau 11mo St Johns Edinburgh


No help here re parents. Death in Victoria.

Death 1893 EDWARDS Hy 73 UNK UNK d. Richmond, Vic. #3480


Death 1904 EDWARDS Marion 75 MURRAY Robert - Marion AULD d. Ardale, Vic. #7151

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

MURRAY
ROBERT
MARION AULD/FR5115 (FR5115)
26/01/1818
685/3
190 102
Canongate

 

[DaveHam9]

Piece: SCT1841/685 Place: Edinburgh -Midlothian ED: 4
Civil Parish: Edinburgh Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: St John's
Folio: 90 Page: 8
Address: Allisons Close
Surname First name(s) *** Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
MURRAY Robert M 43 Shoemaker Journeyman Midlothian
MURRAY Marion F 41 Midlothian
MURRAY Marion F 10 Midlothian
MURRAY James M 8 Midlothian
MURRAY Thomas M 6 Midlothian
Page: 9
MURRAY Martha F 1 Midlothian
COMMONS Peter M 23 Shoemaker Journeyman Midlothian

 

[DaveHam9]

EDWARDS
HENRY
MARION MURRAY/FR6563 (FR6563)
29/07/1846
685/1
680 211
Edinburgh


EDWARDS
RACHEL MARY
HENRY EDWARDS/MARION MURRAY FR4344 (FR4344)
F
23/05/1852
685/1
600 388
Edinburgh

 

[DaveHam9]

Looks like no children missing from 1851 census.

EDWARDS
ROBERT
HENRY EDWARDS/MARION MURRAY FR4061 (FR4061)
M
11/01/1848
685/1
590 336
Edinburgh

EDWARDS
MARION
HENRY EDWARDS/MARION MURRAY FR4225 (FR4225)
F
13/05/1850
685/1
600 154
Edinburgh

Henry's father is possibly Robert.

 

[emeltee]

Son Robert could have been named after Marion's father. Not every family followed the naming pattern.

Emeltee

 

[DaveHam9]

Yes. Trying with Robert for now.

Won't find one family in 1861.

Index to Unassisted Inward Passenger Lists to Victoria 1852-1923
APR 1853 TAMERLANE B 037 002
EDWARDS HENRY 33
EDWARDS ---- MRS 23
EDWARDS ROBT 4
EDWARDS MARION 2
EDWARDS RACHAEL I=inf


Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

This is handy.

Piece: SCT1851/685 Place: Edinburgh -Midlothian ED: 4
Civil Parish: Edinburgh Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: St Johns
Folio: 726 Page: 33 Schedule: 90
Address: 44 Cowgate
Surname First name(s) Rel Status *** Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
MURRAY Robert Head M M 53 Mstr Shoemaker Emp 4w 8m Midlothian - Edinburgh
MURRAY Mary Wife M F 50 Midlothian - Edinburgh
MURRAY Thomas Son U M 17 Journeyman Shoemaker Midlothian - Edinburgh
HUTCHISON Margt Sislaw M F 43 Shoe Binder Midlothian - Edinburgh
AULD Martha Sislaw U F 31 Boot Binder Midlothian - Edinburgh

 

[DaveHam9]

??
1841 Census
Surname First name(s) *** Age Occupation Where Born Census Place
EDWARDS Henry M 20 Soldier England Canongate

 

[emeltee]

Do you have a ref. for that 1841 Census entry because I can't find it.

Emeltee

 

[emeltee]

Looking at Military records the Henry Edwards you have found in 1841 was born in Maidstone, Kent. He is soldier number 1072 of the 58th Foot. He is down as being in Glasgow/Edinburgh in 1841 and still in the Army in 1851.

Emeltee

 

[DaveHam9]

Piece: SCT1841/685 Place: Canongate -Midlothian Enumeration District: 01
Civil Parish: Canongate Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: Canongate
Folio: 18 Page: 1
Address: Edinburgh Castle


Thanks Emeltee.

Not that one then.

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

A very common name so might not be any one of these in 1861

Robert Murray
birth: 1799 Midlothian
residence: 1861 Carrington, Midlothian

Robert Murray
birth: 1800 Midlothian
residence: 1861 St George, Midlothian

Robert Murray
birth: 1797 Midlothian
residence: 1861 St Giles, Midlothian

Martha Auld
birth: 1817 Midlothian
residence: 1861 St Giles, Midlothian, Scotland

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

The right death but nothing that helps much.

The Age (Melbourne, Vic.) - Wed 4 Jan 1893 p.1
Deaths.
EDWARDS.-On the 3rd January, at 656 Bridge-rd., Richmond, Henry Edwards, late of Port Melbourne, aged 73 years.
EDWARDS.-On the 3rd January, Henry, beloved husband of Marion Edwards, and father of Mrs. Sprott, Hawthorn, and Mrs. Anderson, Armadale.

Can't find an obituary.

 

[DaveHam9]

I've found a tree that is no help.

No deaths for Marion Murray's parents.

Has Henry Edwards born England or Scotland.

A birth in Victoria with a middle name not seen before.

EDWARDS Charles Murry Barstow - Hry - Marion (Murry) Reg. year1859 Reg. no246

Dave

 

[Bootzy]

Leader – Sat 14 Jan 1893
Edwards.— On the 3rd January, at 666 Bridge-road,Richmond, Henry, beloved husband of Marion Edwards, father of Robert Edwards, of Brunswick ; Henry Edwards and Mrs. Sprott, of Hawthorn : Mrs. Anderson, of Armadale: Mrs. Hutchison, of Williamstown : and Mrs. Kay, of Albert Park, after a long and painful Illness.

The Argus – Mon 11 July 1904
EDWARDS.—On the 10th July, at the residence of her son-in-law (Mr. Robert Anderson), "Gladstone," Williams-road, Windsor, Marion, relict of the late Henry Edwards (both of Edinburgh, Scotland), and Hawthorn-bridge and Port Melbourne. A colonist of 51 years. No flowers, by request. Ballarat papers please copy.
EDWARDS.—The Friends of the late Mrs.MARION EDWARDS are informed that her remains will be interred in the Melbourne General Cemetery. The funeral will leave the residence of her son-in-law (Mr. Robert Anderson), "Gladstone," Williams- road, Windsor THIS DAY (Monday, 11th inst.), at 2 p.m.

daughter Marion married Richard Sprott 1867 Vic #2615 – Cemetery Headstones
Name: Marion Sprott
Death Date: 27 Jun 1927
Burial Place: Victoria, Australia
Cemetery: Melbourne
Section: A
Religion: Methodist
Transcription: Richard SPROTT native of Belfast, Ireland who died in his 70th year on 23 Jun 1909 a colonist of 48 years and his son Ernest died 19 Oct 1878, age 2 yrs 7 mths also his granddaughter Marion Evelyn died 19 Mar 1908, age 5 years 6 mths beloved daughter of James & Annie SPROTT also Marion beloved wife of Richard SPROTT died 27 Jun 1927, age 77 years.

Rachel Mary Edwards married Robert Anderson 1873 Vic – died 1910 Vic

Agnes Edwards b 1855 Vic married John Stanley Kay 1885 Vic – died 1934 Albert Park Vic

Jane Edwards b 1857 Melb – married William Hutchinson 1887 Vic – died 1939 Vic

Charles Murray Barstou Edwards b 1859 Vic

Isabella Edwards b 1860 Vic – died 1873 Vic

Henry Edwards b 1863 Vic – died 1928 Vic

 

[DaveHam9]

A... does not seem to be free this weekend in Oz. ?

I tried to find the 1861 census for Murray and Auld in Midlothian.


Don't know if it is the right one.

??
Robert Murray
Scotland Census, 1871
birth: 1797 Midlothian
residence: 1871 St Giles, Midlothian

 

[Bootzy]

Tree suggests this is Henry’s birth and brings in the Barstow/Barstou
Name Henry Edward Barstow
Gender Male
Birth Date 07 Oct 1820
Birth Place Chr. Berhampore Bengal India
Baptism Date 13 Nov 1820
Baptism Age 0
Baptism Place Berhampore, Bengal, India
Father John Anderson Barstow
Reference ID v 11 p 335
FHL Film Number 498611

If it is correct..
Name John Anderson Barstow
Gender Male
Birth Date 10 May 1795
Baptism Date 04 Sep 1795
Baptism Place Morpeth,Northumberland,England
Father Thomas Barstow
Mother Jane
FHL Film Number 415391

1812 – accepted as Cadet into British East India Co.
Nov 1820 he was Lieutenant 18th Infantry British East India Co.
Oct 1842 back in Edingburgh married a Isabella Burn

Name John Anderson Barstow
Gender Male
Age 66
Birth Date 1797
Death Date 09 Jun 1863
Burial Date 10 Jun 1863
Burial Place Murree, Bengal, India
FHL Film Number 499010

Found this..
Henry Edward born 7 Oct 1820, the illegitimate son of Lieut John Anderson Barstow HC, 18th N Infantry was baptised at Baharampur 13th November 1820 by me William Eales Chaplain.

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Val.

Very interesting.

Census does have India B S - B S = British Subject

I had a look in FIBIS but was searching for Edwards.

Dave

 

[Bootzy]

Dave,
have you seen this ?

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=434333.0