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Thanks. Yet another variation of the name. We have Adler too.
I'll search for Arthur in TROVE. *** 15 months old as at 30 Jun 1853 so born abt Apr 1852 but where? Listed as previous issue but not as previous issue of William DRINKWATER's first spouse so Arthur's mother is Harriet and father is not William and possibly not Samuel either. Samuel is still in Hobart as of 27 Jun 1853.
I'll search for Arthur in TROVE. *** 15 months old as at 30 Jun 1853 so born abt Apr 1852 but where? Listed as previous issue but not as previous issue of William DRINKWATER's first spouse so Arthur's mother is Harriet and father is not William and possibly not Samuel either. Samuel is still in Hobart as of 27 Jun 1853.
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The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1956) - Wednesday 15 October 1862 p.6
A SCHOOL OF VICE! -Mary Ann M'Donald, .
middle-aged woman, and five small boys, named
Henry Adlam, Arthur Adlam, William Joh 1
Lawrence, William James Buukley, and Palme
M'Donald, from seven to twelve years of age,
were brought up, charged by Detective Duron
with stealing some pigeons from...
Empire (Sydney, NSW : 1850 - 1875) - Monday 26 September 1864 p.8
Arthur A. Adlam, a boy, was brought up for stealing
eleven oranges value 1s. The boy admitted that he
stole one, only. . His father dressed him, sent him
to school, and need many means to do him good. He
had no mother. The prosecutor not appearing, the
boy was reprimanded, and promised to go to school.
He was discharged.
Well, that fits for Harriet being his mother.
The Sydney Morning Herald - Wednesday 7 June 1876 p.8
...John Sweetman 21, des ribed «s a saddlei Arthur
Adlam, 21 Iredciick Al Intosh, 21, and deorgo L-eevcs,
alias larbuck 21, described as vagrants...
So born 1852-1855.
A SCHOOL OF VICE! -Mary Ann M'Donald, .
middle-aged woman, and five small boys, named
Henry Adlam, Arthur Adlam, William Joh 1
Lawrence, William James Buukley, and Palme
M'Donald, from seven to twelve years of age,
were brought up, charged by Detective Duron
with stealing some pigeons from...
Empire (Sydney, NSW : 1850 - 1875) - Monday 26 September 1864 p.8
Arthur A. Adlam, a boy, was brought up for stealing
eleven oranges value 1s. The boy admitted that he
stole one, only. . His father dressed him, sent him
to school, and need many means to do him good. He
had no mother. The prosecutor not appearing, the
boy was reprimanded, and promised to go to school.
He was discharged.
Well, that fits for Harriet being his mother.
The Sydney Morning Herald - Wednesday 7 June 1876 p.8
...John Sweetman 21, des ribed «s a saddlei Arthur
Adlam, 21 Iredciick Al Intosh, 21, and deorgo L-eevcs,
alias larbuck 21, described as vagrants...
So born 1852-1855.
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"Harriett Shurley (20) married Samuel Adlem (22) on 26 October 1846 in
Hobart. Reg No. 52.
Henry William Hadlam was born on 18 March 1848 Hobart Reg No 650 .
It seems he was also registerd as Henry William Adler Reg No 3311. Parents Samuel and Harriett.
I could not find a death for Samuel or birth for Arthur."
Hobart. Reg No. 52.
Henry William Hadlam was born on 18 March 1848 Hobart Reg No 650 .
It seems he was also registerd as Henry William Adler Reg No 3311. Parents Samuel and Harriett.
I could not find a death for Samuel or birth for Arthur."
The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1956) - Saturday 17 February 1855 p.6
MALICIOUSLY WOUNDING
William Drinkwater (who had been out on bail
Burrcnderod to take his trial for having, nt Fen
ridge, on the 24th November, atruok Samuel Adlam
on the head with a hunting-whip, and inflicted
serious injury.
Samuel Adlam, being called by the Soliitor-General
in support of the choree, deposed to the eilest th
he waa residing with Mr. Morris, Lonsdale Btrci
and on the day in question went over to the home
of the prisoner (who waa retaining Mrs. Adlam
against her husband's wish) to get possession
the clothes of his child,
MALICIOUSLY WOUNDING
William Drinkwater (who had been out on bail
Burrcnderod to take his trial for having, nt Fen
ridge, on the 24th November, atruok Samuel Adlam
on the head with a hunting-whip, and inflicted
serious injury.
Samuel Adlam, being called by the Soliitor-General
in support of the choree, deposed to the eilest th
he waa residing with Mr. Morris, Lonsdale Btrci
and on the day in question went over to the home
of the prisoner (who waa retaining Mrs. Adlam
against her husband's wish) to get possession
the clothes of his child,
Check this out as well.
Samuel on the Lady Bird as i found before
Aslem Samuel Mr Cabin Lady Bird 18 Feb 1854 Launceston Melbourne
Guess who is on the same ship
Drinkwater Child Steerage Lady Bird 18 Feb 1854 Launceston Melbourne Child with Mrs Drinkwater 4 of 4
Drinkwater Child Steerage Lady Bird 18 Feb 1854 Launceston Melbourne Child with Mrs Drinkwater 3 of 4
Drinkwater Child Steerage Lady Bird 18 Feb 1854 Launceston Melbourne Child with Mrs Drinkwater 2 of 4
Drinkwater Child Steerage Lady Bird 18 Feb 1854 Launceston Melbourne Child with Mrs Drinkwater 1 of 4
Drinkwater Mrs Steerage Lady Bird 18 Feb 1854 Launceston Melbourne Clarence Free Possibly Jane Hannon
Drinkwater William Steerage Lady Bird 18 Feb 1854 Launceston Melbourne Surrey Free by servitude
Now is that Jane Drinkwater or Harriett? I have my suspicions it might be Harriett as on #13 on here Jane had William in court in July 1853 for desertion.
Samuel on the Lady Bird as i found before
Aslem Samuel Mr Cabin Lady Bird 18 Feb 1854 Launceston Melbourne
Guess who is on the same ship
Drinkwater Child Steerage Lady Bird 18 Feb 1854 Launceston Melbourne Child with Mrs Drinkwater 4 of 4
Drinkwater Child Steerage Lady Bird 18 Feb 1854 Launceston Melbourne Child with Mrs Drinkwater 3 of 4
Drinkwater Child Steerage Lady Bird 18 Feb 1854 Launceston Melbourne Child with Mrs Drinkwater 2 of 4
Drinkwater Child Steerage Lady Bird 18 Feb 1854 Launceston Melbourne Child with Mrs Drinkwater 1 of 4
Drinkwater Mrs Steerage Lady Bird 18 Feb 1854 Launceston Melbourne Clarence Free Possibly Jane Hannon
Drinkwater William Steerage Lady Bird 18 Feb 1854 Launceston Melbourne Surrey Free by servitude
Now is that Jane Drinkwater or Harriett? I have my suspicions it might be Harriett as on #13 on here Jane had William in court in July 1853 for desertion.
We jump from 1855 to 1861 so is this the same Samuel?
The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1956) - Tuesday 31 December 1861 p.6
Rogues and Vagabonds.-Reuben Lewis,
William Moore, John Harrison, Thomas Apple
ford, and Samuel Adlam, were charged with,
being rogues and vagabonds
So 1861 a Samuel ADLAM age unknown is in Melbourne.
1858 Samuel ADLEM born abt 1826 married in Sydney.
A Henry ADLEM (no middle name and no age) is a witness to the 22 Aug 1867 marriage in Sydney of a sister-in-law of Samuel ADLEM.
Where are we? :2fun: Back to post #1.
The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1956) - Tuesday 31 December 1861 p.6
Rogues and Vagabonds.-Reuben Lewis,
William Moore, John Harrison, Thomas Apple
ford, and Samuel Adlam, were charged with,
being rogues and vagabonds
So 1861 a Samuel ADLAM age unknown is in Melbourne.
1858 Samuel ADLEM born abt 1826 married in Sydney.
A Henry ADLEM (no middle name and no age) is a witness to the 22 Aug 1867 marriage in Sydney of a sister-in-law of Samuel ADLEM.
Where are we? :2fun: Back to post #1.
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Check this out as well.
Samuel on the Lady Bird as i found before
Aslem Samuel Mr Cabin Lady Bird 18 Feb 1854 Launceston Melbourne
Guess who is on the same ship
Drinkwater Child Steerage Lady Bird 18 Feb 1854 Launceston Melbourne Child with Mrs Drinkwater 4 of 4
Drinkwater Child Steerage Lady Bird 18 Feb 1854 Launceston Melbourne Child with Mrs Drinkwater 3 of 4
Drinkwater Child Steerage Lady Bird 18 Feb 1854 Launceston Melbourne Child with Mrs Drinkwater 2 of 4
Drinkwater Child Steerage Lady Bird 18 Feb 1854 Launceston Melbourne Child with Mrs Drinkwater 1 of 4
Drinkwater Mrs Steerage Lady Bird 18 Feb 1854 Launceston Melbourne Clarence Free Possibly Jane Hannon
Drinkwater William Steerage Lady Bird 18 Feb 1854 Launceston Melbourne Surrey Free by servitude
Now is that Jane Drinkwater or Harriett? I have my suspicions it might be Harriett as on #13 on here Jane had William in court in July 1853 for desertion.
Samuel on the Lady Bird as i found before
Aslem Samuel Mr Cabin Lady Bird 18 Feb 1854 Launceston Melbourne
Guess who is on the same ship
Drinkwater Child Steerage Lady Bird 18 Feb 1854 Launceston Melbourne Child with Mrs Drinkwater 4 of 4
Drinkwater Child Steerage Lady Bird 18 Feb 1854 Launceston Melbourne Child with Mrs Drinkwater 3 of 4
Drinkwater Child Steerage Lady Bird 18 Feb 1854 Launceston Melbourne Child with Mrs Drinkwater 2 of 4
Drinkwater Child Steerage Lady Bird 18 Feb 1854 Launceston Melbourne Child with Mrs Drinkwater 1 of 4
Drinkwater Mrs Steerage Lady Bird 18 Feb 1854 Launceston Melbourne Clarence Free Possibly Jane Hannon
Drinkwater William Steerage Lady Bird 18 Feb 1854 Launceston Melbourne Surrey Free by servitude
Now is that Jane Drinkwater or Harriett? I have my suspicions it might be Harriett as on #13 on here Jane had William in court in July 1853 for desertion.
It has to be Harriet with her son Arthur born abt Apr 1852 plus 3 = 4 children:
"They [= Henry and Arthur] are not listed on the birth of their first daughter Charlotte DRINKWATER born 1854 Melbourne, which lists William's children by his wife Jane HANNON in Hobart - Edward 12, Sarah 9 and William 6. " See HERE
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We still don't know if the Samuel who married in Sydney in 1858 and the witness Henry in 1867 are the father Samuel and son Henry W. born in Hobart.
I'll have to search again for two marriages. If I can't find either I'll have to spend some money on certificates.
What have we missed? This:
Empire (Sydney, NSW : 1850 - 1875) - Monday 26 September 1864 p.8
Arthur A. Adlam, a boy, was brought up for stealing
eleven oranges value 1s. The boy admitted that he
stole one, only. . His father dressed him, sent him
to school, and need many means to do him good. He
had no mother. The prosecutor not appearing, the
boy was reprimanded, and promised to go to school.
He was discharged.
Arthur is the 2nd son so his father Samuel can't be the one who married Emma in Sydney in 1858. Emma died in 1876.
We need another death reg for a Samuel. It looks as if we have one born abt 1824 and one born abt 1826.
Samuel was still in Melbourne in 1861 so that's 2 reasons why the Hobart Samuel didn't marry Emma in 1858. We know for sure the one who did marry Emma died in 1866 aged 40. So when did the one born 1824 die? - It was after 1864.
I'll have to search again for two marriages. If I can't find either I'll have to spend some money on certificates.
What have we missed? This:
Empire (Sydney, NSW : 1850 - 1875) - Monday 26 September 1864 p.8
Arthur A. Adlam, a boy, was brought up for stealing
eleven oranges value 1s. The boy admitted that he
stole one, only. . His father dressed him, sent him
to school, and need many means to do him good. He
had no mother. The prosecutor not appearing, the
boy was reprimanded, and promised to go to school.
He was discharged.
Arthur is the 2nd son so his father Samuel can't be the one who married Emma in Sydney in 1858. Emma died in 1876.
We need another death reg for a Samuel. It looks as if we have one born abt 1824 and one born abt 1826.
Samuel was still in Melbourne in 1861 so that's 2 reasons why the Hobart Samuel didn't marry Emma in 1858. We know for sure the one who did marry Emma died in 1866 aged 40. So when did the one born 1824 die? - It was after 1864.
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Im brain drained now :2fun::2fun:
Ok am i confused or is this the marriage your looking for?
811/1874 ADLOM ARTHUR A VICKERS ELLEN SYDNEY
:2fun::2fun:Ok am i confused or is this the marriage your looking for?
811/1874 ADLOM ARTHUR A VICKERS ELLEN SYDNEY
but find as in on film at the library. Next week perhaps Wednesday. It should be easy to find - 24 Aug 1874 Christ Church St Laurence - I know what film to view.I think I've had enough of this topic until then. :2fun:
St James' Sydney No 3
Samuel Adlem Bachelor England - 27 - George St James & Ann Adlem Gardener
Emma Farmer Spinster England - 18 - Macquarie St Edward & Jemima Farmer Engineer
married in Church of St James Sydney by Banns
30th May 1858 By me George Gurney
Samuel signed, the mark x of Emma Farmer
Witnesses: Sarah Moss, John Moss
That should say Widower but then again Harriet was not dead. !!! She was with DRINKWATER.
Also Arthur's mother is Harriet WEST - well I don't read that name as SHIRLEY/SHURLEY that's for sure.
Christ Church Sydney
Arthur Alfred Adlem Bachelor Melbourne Driver of Parcel Delivery 20 Sydney Samuel Adlem Harriet West ?
Ellen Vickers Spinster Tasmania 19 Sydney Joshua Vickers Ellen (Surname unknown) ?
married in Parish Church of S. Lawrence (Christ Church) Sydney
NO DATE but next is dated Sept 15 1874 By me Edward B. Proctor
Arthur signed, Ellen her x mark
Witnesses: G. S. Hanslip, Emma (her x mark) Hanslip
Emma married George after Samuel died in 1866.
Samuel Adlem Bachelor England - 27 - George St James & Ann Adlem Gardener
Emma Farmer Spinster England - 18 - Macquarie St Edward & Jemima Farmer Engineer
married in Church of St James Sydney by Banns
30th May 1858 By me George Gurney
Samuel signed, the mark x of Emma Farmer
Witnesses: Sarah Moss, John Moss
That should say Widower but then again Harriet was not dead. !!! She was with DRINKWATER.
Also Arthur's mother is Harriet WEST - well I don't read that name as SHIRLEY/SHURLEY that's for sure.
Christ Church Sydney
Arthur Alfred Adlem Bachelor Melbourne Driver of Parcel Delivery 20 Sydney Samuel Adlem Harriet West ?
Ellen Vickers Spinster Tasmania 19 Sydney Joshua Vickers Ellen (Surname unknown) ?
married in Parish Church of S. Lawrence (Christ Church) Sydney
NO DATE but next is dated Sept 15 1874 By me Edward B. Proctor
Arthur signed, Ellen her x mark
Witnesses: G. S. Hanslip, Emma (her x mark) Hanslip
Emma married George after Samuel died in 1866.
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No middle name on that reg and no mother's maiden name. I still read her name as West on the marriage:
Christ Church Sydney
Arthur Alfred Adlem Bachelor Melbourne Driver of Parcel Delivery 20 Sydney Samuel Adlem Harriet West ?
Ellen Vickers Spinster Tasmania 19 Sydney Joshua Vickers Ellen (Surname unknown) ?
married in Parish Church of S. Lawrence (Christ Church) Sydney
NO DATE but next is dated Sept 15 1874 By me Edward B. Proctor
Arthur signed, Ellen her x mark
Witnesses: G. S. Hanslip, Emma (her x mark) Hanslip
I'd better look at that entry again and see if I still read it as West.
Christ Church Sydney
Arthur Alfred Adlem Bachelor Melbourne Driver of Parcel Delivery 20 Sydney Samuel Adlem Harriet West ?
Ellen Vickers Spinster Tasmania 19 Sydney Joshua Vickers Ellen (Surname unknown) ?
married in Parish Church of S. Lawrence (Christ Church) Sydney
NO DATE but next is dated Sept 15 1874 By me Edward B. Proctor
Arthur signed, Ellen her x mark
Witnesses: G. S. Hanslip, Emma (her x mark) Hanslip
I'd better look at that entry again and see if I still read it as West.
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