Here's a real mystery

[stevegraham85]

Eric Roslyn Moon B1891 Waterloo Sydney, married Belle Eliza Dunne 1915
and had 2 kids.

Family folklore says he visited his adult son one day, gave him his watch said goodbye as if there were no problems, and just vanished never to be seen again by his family.

I haven't found his death anywhere and the family is still wondering what happened to him.

Maybe he went O'seas or was done away with?, or suicided in some very remote place in Ozland wouldn't be surprised what some of these Moons got up to.

Maybe someone else can find a death certificate for him or passenger list to gods knows where.

Last known trace of him i can find is 1943 E/R

OZ

 

[gibbo]

I havent found him but got some gossip for you. He married in 1915 and that is the same year that he got into trouble for lying about his age to a Rev. Maybe he lied about his age to get married??

Sydney Morning Herald
Friday 22 October 1915

A False Statement

Eric Rosyln Moon, 19 pleaded guilty to a charge of having made, on oath, before Rev. A E Forbes, at Canterbury, on May 29, a statement that he had attained the age of 21 years. He was bound over on his own recongnisance in £10 to appear for sentence if and when called upon to do so.

 

[stevegraham85]

I havent found him but got some gossip for you. He married in 1915 and that is the same year that he got into trouble for lying about his age to a Rev. Maybe he lied about his age to get married??

Sydney Morning Herald
Friday 22 October 1915

A False Statement

Eric Rosyln Moon, 19 pleaded guilty to a charge of having made, on oath, before Rev. A E Forbes, at Canterbury, on May 29, a statement that he had attained the age of 21 years. He was bound over on his own recongnisance in £10 to appear for sentence if and when called upon to do so.

Thanks Gibbo, I'd love to crack this nut as it has me intrigued.

By the way he was only 19 when he got married without parents consent.

Oz

 

[gibbo]

Hi oz,

Got him in 1954 on the E/R

Sub division of Granville
MOON Eric Roslyn 74 Roseberry Road Guildford - carpenter
MOON Belle Eliza 74 Roseberry Road Guildford - homeduties

 

[stevegraham85]

Hi oz,

Got him in 1954 on the E/R

Sub division of Granville
MOON Eric Roslyn 74 Roseberry Road Guildford - carpenter
MOON Belle Eliza 74 Roseberry Road Guildford - homeduties

I have also found him in more E/R but no death anywhere.

I think if we can find when his wife died, it could be a pointer,
maybe he run out on her with a younger woman, as his wife was a bit older than him, and it appears she brought a son from a previous relationship into the Marriage.

Oz

 

[gibbo]

I have also found him in more E/R but no death anywhere.

I think if we can find when his wife died, it could be a pointer,
maybe he run out on her with a younger woman, as his wife was a bit older than him, and it appears she brought a son from a previous relationship into the Marriage.

Oz

Morning oz,

Death index for Belle Moon.

31056/1964
MOON BELLE ELIZA
father WILLIAM
mother MAGGIE
district PARRAMATTA

 

[stevegraham85]

Morning oz,

Death index for Belle Moon.

31056/1964
MOON BELLE ELIZA
father WILLIAM
mother MAGGIE
district PARRAMATTA

Thanks Gibbo, I think the trick now is to see if he died and was buried somewhere in OZ and i will ask old family member if they can remember what year he dissapeared.

OZ

 

[gibbo]

Thanks Gibbo, I think the trick now is to see if he died and was buried somewhere in OZ and i will ask old family member if they can remember what year he dissapeared.

OZ

I wonder if Belle's death cert. would give anything up such as whether husband is deceased or not and would be interesting to see who the informant of death was for her. Just a thought.

 

[stevegraham85]

I wonder if Belle's death cert. would give anything up such as whether husband is deceased or not and would be interesting to see who the informant of death was for her. Just a thought.

I Think you would do a better job on reseaching Belles death certificate as to informant than me with my limited research skills.

I notice Belle and Richard both on 1954 E/R and none further on for either,
now if Belle died 1964 shouldn't here be at least another E/R for Belle.

Oz

 

[gibbo]

I Think you would do a better job on reseaching Belles death certificate as to informant than me with my limited research skills.

I notice Belle and Richard both on 1954 E/R and none further on for either,
now if Belle died 1964 shouldn't here be at least another E/R for Belle.

Oz

Hi oz,
You would have to order Belle's death cert. to get the info from it such as informant etc.
The E/R only go to 1954 online so they still could have been there after that year.
I still cant find anything on your Eric as yet.

 

[stevegraham85]

Hi oz,
You would have to order Belle's death cert. to get the info from it such as informant etc.
The E/R only go to 1954 online so they still could have been there after that year.
I still cant find anything on your Eric as yet.

How have you gone on death research for Eric.

Oz

 

[gibbo]

How have you gone on death research for Eric.

Oz

I havent. I have been socialising and sleeping:2fun: :2fun:

 

[stevegraham85]

I havent. I have been socialising and sleeping:2fun: :2fun:

Well good on you, why not have some fun,:2fun: :2fun:

Any way just been speaking Eric Moon's great grandaughter, she tells me he was a gambler and after he went missing his house had to be sold to pay off his legal gambling debts.

I"m beginning to wonder if he also had illegal gambling debts as well and couldn't pay and they could have bumped him off.

Any I'll be talking to another rellie tomorrow to try to get to bottom of this,as he has some ideas that could help.

Oz.

 

[gibbo]

Well good on you, why not have some fun,:2fun: :2fun:

Any way just been speaking Eric Moon's great grandaughter, she tells me he was a gambler and after he went missing his house had to be sold to pay off his legal gambling debts.

I"m beginning to wonder if he also had illegal gambling debts as well and couldn't pay and they could have bumped him off.

Any I'll be talking to another rellie tomorrow to try to get to bottom of this,as he has some ideas that could help.

Oz.

So he obviously got himself into some big trouble I did have another look in the newspapers but they only go up to 1954 so nothing there. The thing is if he wasnt "bumped off" he obviously has taken off and if he didnt want to be found it would have been easy back then to hide or change his name. If you learn anymore from the other rellie tomorrow will have another look at it then and see if we can find something then. If i think of anything else i will put it on here.

I wonder if he was ever reported missing.

 

[ianto73]

Sorry to butt in, but anyone with debts like that could have gone "WALKABOUT", my wife was told one of two brothers who emigrated to Australia and had worked on the railway across the country, did exactly that after he'd finished work! But he materialised very many years later.
Good luck in your quest.
Brian

 

[stevegraham85]

Sorry to butt in, but anyone with debts like that could have gone "WALKABOUT", my wife was told one of two brothers who emigrated to Australia and had worked on the railway across the country, did exactly that after he'd finished work! But he materialised very many years later.
Good luck in your quest.
Brian

Thanks a lot Brian,it appears though he wasn't a very nice person.

Oz

 

[stevegraham85]

I havent. I have been socialising and sleeping:2fun: :2fun:

Gibbo on one of your posts you said bdm said Eric Moon Born 1894,but if he married 1915 and according to police, court and newspapers that he lied about his age and was only 19, then 1915 from 1896 is 19 not 1894, could bdm be wrong or could that one born 1894 be another Eric Moon.

Oz

 

[gibbo]

Gibbo on one of your posts you said bdm said Eric Moon Born 1894,but if he married 1915 and according to police, court and newspapers that he lied about his age and was only 19, then 1915 from 1896 is 19 not 1894, could bdm be wrong or could that one born 1894 be another Eric Moon.

Oz

I will go and check back in a minute.

 

[gibbo]

Hi oz,
These are the birth for Eric Moon's from 1890 to 1900. You said his name was Eric Roslyn Moon so i would assume that would have been him in the paper, [wouldnt think to many would have that name] and parents William and Mitilda. If all that is correct birth year is 1894 unless there has been a error in the index. See what you think.

36888/1891
MOON ERIC R M
father ALFRED
mother ELIZABETH V
district WATERLOO

29862/1894
MOON ERIC R
father WILLIAM
mother MATILDA M
district ROCKDALE

34926/1897
MOON ERIC
father WILLIAM D
mother PHOEBE M
district REDFERN

20712/1900
MOON ERIC G
father WILLIAM J
mother MARGARET S
district BURWOOD

 

[stevegraham85]

Hi oz,
These are the birth for Eric Moon's from 1890 to 1900. You said his name was Eric Roslyn Moon so i would assume that would have been him in the paper, [wouldnt think to many would have that name] and parents William and Mitilda. If all that is correct birth year is 1894 unless there has been a error in the index. See what you think.

36888/1891
MOON ERIC R M
father ALFRED
mother ELIZABETH V
district WATERLOO

29862/1894
MOON ERIC R
father WILLIAM
mother MATILDA M
district ROCKDALE

34926/1897
MOON ERIC
father WILLIAM D
mother PHOEBE M
district REDFERN

20712/1900
MOON ERIC G
father WILLIAM J
mother MARGARET S
district BURWOOD

Well it definately says 1894, then if he got married in 1915 he would have been 21 and not 19,something smells in Siberia.

Especially when the police and Court and newspaper says in 1915 he was only 19.

Oz very