how to find a birth before 1838

[irene24]

hi can you please advise me where to search for a birth of a person born in 1806 i tried the free b m d but they don't go back that far.

 

[p.risboy]

Parish registers are the only option really.

Where abouts was your person born, and the name.

Steve.

 

[irene24]

hi so i am looking for John Fowler born in 1807 in Goodmanham Yorkshire he was married to Emma Barnes in 1827 Pocklington ,yorkshire i can find him in the uk census from 1841 onwards theres no death record that i can find for him either .

 

[p.risboy]

England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975.

Name: John Fowler
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 21 Nov 1807
Baptism Place: Goodmanham,York,England
Mother: Ann Fowler


Steve.

 

[emeltee]

Goodmanham

John son of Ann Fowler baptised 21 November 1807.

Emeltee

 

[p.risboy]

John Fowler
abt 1808
Registration Year: 1869
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at Death: 61
Reg. district: York
County: Yorkshire East Riding
Volume: 9d
Page: 11


Steve.

 

[p.risboy]

England Marriages, 1538–1973

Name - John Fowler
Spouse's Name - Emma Barnes
Event Date - 12 Jun 1827
Event Place - Seaton Ross,York,England


All of these record transcripts are available in FamilySearch.


Steve.

 

[irene24]

thanks everyone ,does that mean his father was unknown or just been left out as i can see the other fathers on there but not his father , plus i think i found info on his mum ann married a harland ? sorry i am very confused now

 

[p.risboy]

It seems he is Illegitimate. The father may have publicly acknowlegded him as his son. If so, he would be legitimized, and would be legally entitled to inherit, or make claim from his father, as would his mother for upkeep of the son.

Not sure how you will research that.

Steve.

 

[Ellie7]

In Scotlamd if a Father recognises an illigit child it is then known by the Father's Surname,usually Christened thus.I don't think John Fowler was recognised by father.

I have came across one in Rothwell c1750's where 1 man was accused ,but woman shouted out another mans' name during labour

Ellie

 

[p.risboy]

This is not always the case Ellie. I have several rellies legitimised, but used mothers surname, upon baptism. These were in England though.

I have 3 mentioned in Wills, using the mothers married and/or maiden name.

Some also used mothers maiden, and fathers name when ever it suited them.

This confused me a great deal. :2fun::2fun:


Steve.

 

[Ellie7]

Yes, i have 1 that refuses to use his mothers surname ,although bapts with it. Believe there comes a time when a son asks who his father was ,and mother has to tell. Coming of age they have more rights than their Mother. They are sometimes given the Fathers name as a middle name in Scotland.

Ellie