Hugh HAMILTON/MILLHINCH

[DaveHam9]

Working backwards from death at age 45:

Death 10 Mar 1878/B12089 Hamilton Hugh - John Hamilton - Susan Wilson

Assisted to NSW
HAMILTON Hugh 22 'Vocalist' 1857 Sydney and/or Newcastle Reel 2138, [4/4794]; Reel 2476, [4/4972]
Date of Departure 7 May 1857 Date of arrival 28 Aug 1857
Hugh 23 Carpenter Dolmarrington [Dalmellington] Ayrshire William ? & Susannah living in Ayrshire CS Read & write None Good None

1851
Piece: SCT1851/609 Place: Ayr -Ayrshire Enumeration District: 2
Civil Parish: Ochiltree Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: Ochiltree
Folio: 0 Page: 11 Schedule: 37
Address: Auchlin
Surname First name(s) Rel Status *** Age Occupation Where Born Remaks
SLOAN Martha Head W F 26 Frmr 360ac Arable Empl. 6 Labs Ayrshire - Dreghorn And 340ac hill pasture
SLOAN William Son - M 2 Ayrshire - Ochiltree
HAMILTON Janet Visitr U F 23 Farmer's Daughter Ayrshire - Dreghorn
RITCHIE Mary Servnt U F 24 House Servant Ayrshire - Dailly
PEARSON Sarah Servnt U F 22 Dairy Maid Ayrshire - Muirkirk
Page: 12
CORRANCE Eliza Servnt U F 16 Nursery Maid Ayrshire - Irvine
CORRANCE Alexander Servnt M M 26 Foreman Ayrshire - Dreghorn
BURNIE Alexander Servnt U M 24 Farm Labourer Wigtownshire - Kirkinner
STEELE Matthew Servnt U M 20 Farm Labourer Ayrshire - Cumnock
HAMILTON Hugh Servnt U M 17 Farm Labourer Ayrshire - Dalmellington
BROWN Thomas Servnt U M 15 Farm Labourer Ayrshire - Cumnock

1841
Parish Number: 586
Civil parish: Dalmellington
County: Ayrshire
Address: Wallace Str
Barney Hamilton 55
Janet Hamilton 60
Adam Hamilton 20
Hugh Millanck 8 Ayrshire


25/11/1832 MILLHINCH HUGH - JOHN MILHINCH/SUSAN HAMILTON FR330 DALMELLINGTON /AYR 586/00 0020 0098


How to make sense of this.

Death reg has father as John Hamilton but it seems is should be John Milhinch/Millhinch.

Death reg has mother as Susan Wilson so that should be her maiden name.

It would then seem that there should be a marriage before 1832 for a William Hamilton to a Susan Wilson.

And there should be a marriage for John Milhinch/Millhinch to Susan.

Why would Hugh change to using Hamilton between 1841 and 1851? The death of a parent?

 

[gibbo]

Can Susan be found in 1841?

 

[horse]

Can Susan be found in 1841?

Is that Susan Hamilton/Millhinch?

 

[gibbo]

Is that Susan Hamilton/Millhinch?

Yeah that one :2fun::2fun: Not sure which name she would be under in 1841.

This is another one of Dave's confusing ones.

 

[horse]

Yeah that one :2fun::2fun: Not sure which name she would be under in 1841.

This is another one of Dave's confusing ones.

Yeah, I took one look earlier and backed off... sorry, Dave

 

[horse]

Sorry, gibbo.. still not clear what I'm looking for

 

[gibbo]

Sorry, gibbo.. still not clear what I'm looking for

Nor am i :2fun::2fun:

Might leave this one for now

 

[horse]

Nor am i :2fun::2fun:

Might leave this one for now

Maybe Dave knows :biggrin:

 

[gibbo]

Ok lets see if i have this right


Susan Wilson marries William Hamilton
Susan then marries a John Milhinch
Susan has Hugh and hence the Hamiltion name on Hugh's baptism.


What i dont understand is why would Hugh in 1841 be with her first husbands family the Hamilton's?? Well i assume its first hubby;s family
Does 1841 state the relationship of Hugh to the head of the family?

 

[gibbo]

Maybe Dave knows :biggrin:

We're stuck if he dont :2fun::2fun:

 

[horse]

It's the name change that beats me, can only think was to do with career

 

[horse]

Does 1841 state the relationship of Hugh to the head of the family?

No, it doesn't usually in 1841

 

[horse]

No, it doesn't usually in 1841

This is the household (with Hugh in 1841)

Barney Hamilton 55 [b. Ireland. Labourer]
Janet Hamilton 60 [b. Ayrshire]
Adam Hamilton 20 [do]
Hugh Millanck 8 [do]

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

John Millhinch was probably the father hence the 1832 reg.

I would think that Susan probably never married John.

Shipping record has Hugh's father as William.

Qld. death reg usually list mother's maiden name but in cases of two marriages I've seen death reg for different children where the mother's name is different. So we don't know yet if WILSON is Susan's maiden or married name.

The fact that Hugh is with a Hamilton family in 1841 suggests to me that he is probably a grandson.

 

[DaveHam9]

Name: William Wilson
Spouse's Name: Susan Hamilton
Event Date: 29 Dec 1837
Event Place: Dalmellington,Ayr,Scotland
No image available
Indexing Project (Batch) Number:M115864

 

[DaveHam9]

So it's still not clear why Hugh changed his name since he had a birth reg with a father and mother named.

Without getting the image you can't tell if that date is a birth or baptism date or if the record has both dates on it. Unless an extracted record is on FS:

Name: Hugh Millhinch
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 25 Nov 1832
Christening Place: DALMELLINGTON,AYR,SCOTLAND
Birth Date: 12 Oct 1832
Father's Name: John Milhinch
Mother's Name: Susan Hamilton
No image available
Indexing Project (Batch) Number:C115864

 

[DaveHam9]

Adam in 1851 but it does not help re Susan or William:

Piece: SCT1851/607 Place: Ayr -Ayrshire Enumeration District: 2
Civil Parish: Muirkirk Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: Muirkirk
Folio: 0 Page: 21 Schedule: 96
Address: Muirkirk Village
Surname First name(s) Rel Status *** Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
HAMILTON Adam Head M M 30 Shoemaker Ayrshire - Dalmellington
HAMILTON Agnes Wife M F 29 Ayrshire - Dailly(Originally: Ayrshire - Daily)
HAMILTON Janet Dau - F 6 Scholar Ayrshire - Dalmellington
HAMILTON Andw Son - M 5 Ayrshire - Muirkirk
Page: 22
HAMILTON Cathrine Dau - F 3 Ayrshire - Muirkirk
HAMILTON Henry Son - M 9m Ayrshire - Muirkirk

 

[DaveHam9]

Marriages in Ayr 1830-1841 for a John MILHINCH

John Milhinch
marriage: 31 December 1835 Kilmarnock,Ayr,Scotland
spouse: Helen Paterson

John Hunter Milhinch
marriage: 18 December 1840 Kilmarnock,Ayr,Scotland
spouse: Margaret Neil



Piece: SCT1841/597 Place: Kilmarnock -Ayrshire Enumeration District: 34
Civil Parish: Kilmarnock Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: Kilmarnock
Folio: 22 Page: 17
Address: Low Glencairn St
Surname First name(s) *** Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
MILLHINCH John M 30 Coal Miner Ayrshire
MILLHINCH Margarate F 25 Hand Sewer Ayrshire

 

[Bootzy]

Hi Dave,
Death for Susan Wilson nee Hamilton 1897 Parish of Muirkirk County of Ayr
Susan Wilson wife of William Wilson deceased died 2nd April age 84 - father Adam Hamilton and Mother Janet nee Craig, son Campbell Wilson was witness. (From a copy of Death cert on a Ancestry Tree)
Susan married William 29 Dec 1837 Dalmellington Ayr
John Milhinch b 1 April 1805 baptised 23 May 1805 Ayr to John and Jane Milhinch nee Johnson then a John Milhinch junior tried 10 Sept 1832 Dumfries – received 7 year sentence departed 6 May 1833 ship “Heroine” to NSW
Death in Adelaide SA for a John Milhinch age 73 at Yankalilla– has his father as James.
So a possible scenario for you – Susan meets John and result is Hugh born 1832 and then John is caught/charged (for what I can’t seem to find) and despatched to NSW, son Hugh is sent to live with Grandparents when Susan marries William Wilson and he finds out his father was a convict hence surname change between 1840/1850 – Hugh then sets off to find his father in Oz.
With all the names of John’s and William with Hamilton and Wilson - sort of fits….

regards
Val

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello Val,

That's great. Thank you very much.

I'll have a look and see if I can find anything to add to that.

Regards,

Dave