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I am looking for my great grandma - Mary Ella Jane Steele in 1911 census.....

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Hello all,

Sorry to bother you all again lol, I hope I not drive you all up the wall for keep asking for help lol, I hope you don't mind.

Right, I am looking for my great grandma - Mary Ella Jane Steele in 1911 census that's which I seems can't find her in 1911 census that she should be in, as she was born in 1901 and she was about 10 in 1911,

She got married to James Alfred Dunbar in 1921 BUT I have found out that Mary's marriage certificate on ancestry.co.uk as ELLA Steel to James A Dunbar:confused:, can anyone help?:confused:

Anyway they had 5 children afterward from 1926 till 1933. One of their child was my nanny - Mary Elizabeth Dunbar (1933), that's which I did mention in a while ago, and I did order my nanny Mary Elizabeth's birth certificate a while ago, (on her birth name was Mary Elizbaeth Dunbar but changed to Sylvia Ella Dunbar when she was adoption).

I have received my nanny's birth certificate and it confirmed that it is right birth certificate, it has also got the parent's name on it too. That's how I got my nanny's parent name - Mary Ella Jane Steele and James Alfred Dunbar.

Oh and by the way Mary Ella Jane passed away at my nanny's birth that's which was on February 1933.

I am look for my great grandma (my nanny's mother M.E.J) in 1911 census, as I wanted to track M.E.J's parent down as she was about about 10 years old in 1911. But seems impossible?

So can you help me to find her in 1911 AND about marriage certificate that's which she was as Ella Steel when she was suppose to be Mary Ella Jane Steele and I couldn't find her birth/marriage certificate on ancestry.co.uk too.

I feels that I should order certificate but wasn't sure which best to order for Mary - marriage or birth or ? Cos no birth shows or whatever. That's what I am stuck about, I'm hoping you

Please ? I would be appreciate if some of you help, and advise too.

Thanks

Shelley
 
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Hi Shelly
Not sure if its just a coincidence but i have had the same problem trying to trace my grandfather Isaac Simons also born in 1901 on the 18th of may in the 1911 cencus i have tried different spellings but to no avail, i can only imagine they were not at home when the person called to do the cencus because if they were stopping with family they would have been put down as a relative, boarder or visitor.
Regards Richard
 
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there is this one, but you do not give an area she was born


STEEL, Nelly Wife Married F 26 1885 Witton Park Cty Durham (married 4 years, 2 children)
STEEL, John Dunn Son M 0 (7 MONTHS) 1911 Trimdon Colliery Durham
STEEL, Ella Daughter10 1901 Sunderland Durham

RG number: RG14 Piece: 29678
Reference: RG14PN29678 RG78PN1719 RD546 SD1 ED11 SN157

Registration District: Sedgefield
Address: 7 Single St Trimdon Colliery County: Durham

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Hi Shelly
Not sure if its just a coincidence but i have had the same problem trying to trace my grandfather Isaac Simons also born in 1901 on the 18th of may in the 1911 cencus i have tried different spellings but to no avail, i can only imagine they were not at home when the person called to do the cencus because if they were stopping with family they would have been put down as a relative, boarder or visitor.
Regards Richard
Thank you as I'm now glad that I'm not alone lol.... It can be nightmare when it has happened lol.
 
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there is this one, but you do not give an area she was born


STEEL, Nelly Wife Married F 26 1885 Witton Park Cty Durham
STEEL, John Dunn Son M 0 (7 MONTHS) 1911 Trimdon Colliery Durham
STEEL, Ella Daughter10 1901 Sunderland Durham

RG number: RG14 Piece: 29678
Reference: RG14PN29678 RG78PN1719 RD546 SD1 ED11 SN157

Registration District: Sedgefield
Address: 7 Single St Trimdon Colliery County: Durham

dave
That's right cos I cant find her birth on ancestry but a possible in Northumberland as dunbars seems coming from Northumberland/Durham ?

Mmmm that's possible... I will check out, but I wonders why my nanny's birth certificate saying parents name are Mary Ella Jane Steele and James Alfred Dunbar.


If possible, can you help to find her birth? As I might order birth certificate as it has parent's name on it?

Thanks.

Shelley
 
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Hi,

The marriage between Ella and James is in Northumberland -Newcastle upon Tyne surname for James is Dunbar not Long.
James Alfred 'Long' was meant to be Dunbar as I was thinking a few family tree and day dream as well lol.

Thank you for recognise the wrong surname lol as my family tree did say dunbar, but on here i was day dreaming, simehow i just type 'long' when ut was suppose to be Dunbar lol.

I did change to Dunbar in five mins ago. Thank you.

Yep you are right abt their marriage, but it's strange cos on my nanny's birth certificate saying the mother's name were Mary Ella Jane Dunbar formally Steele. But on ancestry I couldn't find her birth certificate and I managed to find marriage certificate but as Ella Steel, not Mary Ella Jane Steele?

Thank you for recognise the surname lol.

Anyway i really wants to order birth certificate or whatever, to break thought but don't know what to order cos those those reasons?

Can I have some of your advise on which I should order ? Should I order to break through ?

Thanks
 

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Hi,

Have been trying to follow the details that gave gave from the 1911 census. Hav'ent come up with anything as of yet. Nellie Steel in 1911 says she has been married 4 years but have'nt come across a marriage. I'm assuming her name is Ellen, Nellie for short.
 

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Hello

I don't know if this is related but my grandad (Ronald Percy Dunbar) motherso maiden name was steele as stated on his birth certificate. Father was James Alfred Dunbar. He also had a sister called Sylvia (whom my mum was named after).

I hope you could give me anymore information as I had just started to research my family.

Kind regards
Beth
 
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