I am new and need help and advice!

[Bushell]

Hi all,

Well am new to all this, ive got some time off university and need something to keep me occupied. Well here is what I have got, on my nans side I wish to do some research as it seems the most interesting. We have always had some knowledge of someone in the family comming from brazil but we don't know how far back it is. I know my great grandfathers name which is John Henry Thomas and he was born in 1899 (or so my nan says) he was in the millitery WWII I belive. I am hopefully waiting on some documents from my Nans brothers on my great gran father. We live in Liverpool, England and that is belived were my great granfather was born.

If anyone could give me advice on where I start as I have no idea! and I am really interested.

Regards,
John

 

[Bushell]

I found this information on Ancestry.com http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/...0&gss=angs-d&fh=8&recid=51439155&recoff=1+2+3 which I think could be correct, but what shall I do with this information as it doesnt really tell me anything I do not know?

Also he was in the Kings Regiment around the time of WWII

 

[chris mcgrane]

try the liverpool register office
the cotton exchange
old hall street
liverpool l3 9uf
type liverpool register office into your browser to get more imformation.

 

[chris mcgrane]

try liverpool register office
the cotton exchange
old hall street
liverpool l3 9uf
they should hold information on your grandfather
they also have a web site.

 

[taalia81]

I've checked the 1901 census and there are two John H Thomas born in Liverpool, one ABT 1898 and one ABT 1900.

The relationships I've copied from the census return and are relationship to the HEAD of the family.

Do you think either of these could be him?

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Name: John H Thomas
Age: 3
Estimated birth year: abt 1898
Relation: Son
Father's name: Edward
Mother's name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Liverpool
Ecclesiastical parish: St Titus
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Registration district: Liverpool
Sub-registration district: St Martin
ED, institution, or vessel: 25
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 237

Household Members: Name Age
Edward Thomas 38 - Head
Elizabeth Thomas 29 - Wife
John H Thomas 3 - Son
Michael Thomas 6 - Son
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Name: John H Thomas
Age: 1
Estimated birth year: abt 1900
Relation: Son
Father's name: John
Mother's name: Fanny
Gender: Male
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Toxteth Park
Ecclesiastical parish: St Margaret
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Registration district: Toxteth Park
Sub-registration district: Toxteth Park
ED, institution, or vessel: 87
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 239

Household Members: Name Age
John L Jones 22 - Boarder
John Morris 21 - Boarder
Louisa Scholefield 26 - Sis in Law
Fanny Thomas 34 - Wife
Florence G Thomas 3 - Daughter
John Thomas 44 - Head
John H Thomas 1 - Son
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[Bushell]

Hey!

Thanks for the advice and some good information, today ill follow up from some of the information you guys have posted and ill get back to you!

 

[Bushell]

Thanks a lot, I can confirm it is:

Name: John H Thomas
Age: 3
Estimated birth year: abt 1898
Relation: Son
Father's name: Edward
Mother's name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Liverpool
Ecclesiastical parish: St Titus
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Registration district: Liverpool
Sub-registration district: St Martin
ED, institution, or vessel: 25
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 237

Household Members: Name Age
Edward Thomas 38 - Head
Elizabeth Thomas 29 - Wife
John H Thomas 3 - Son
Michael Thomas 6 - Son

How would I get maiden names etc? and another question where did you search for these results?

 

[taalia81]

I got the information from ancestry.co.uk I have a subscription which give me access to all the UK census data.

To get maiden names you could search for marriages on freebmd.org.uk where they have transcribed a lot of Birth Death and Marriage records and are continually updating the database.

There are two ways you could get the mother's maiden name - find the birth record for John Henry and send for the certificate (available from the General Registry Office also called GRO - gro.gov.uk) or you could try and find the marriage record for John Henry's parents.

I'd suggest the better option is to get the birth certificate for John Henry because that will also confirm his father's name. A certificate will cost £7 but you will need to know the Volume Reference which you can find on FreeBMD.

I don't want to overload you with info so I'll stop here but if you need anything else post back!!

 

[Bushell]

Hi taalia81,

Some real good advice and help you are giving me here. My family are really happy with the information you have given. If I had an account at ancestry.com would it therefore be possible to search each male in the family history as I would have there surname? is it worth me getting a months account.

You see, my goal is to find out which family member game from abroad, we suspect brasil or a african country but we really are not sure.

 

[taalia81]

Ancestry do a 14 day free trial which is probably worth your while to see if you can find the info you're looking for and the 1881 census is free to look at, so I'd recommend using them before you decide whether to subscribe or not, saying that, I've found so much from ancestry.co.uk I think it's worth it.

The main thing is having details of relatives who were born before 1901 which is the most recent census available to search (they are under an 100 year privacy policy). For example your John Henry was a very good start point because he was born just before 1901 so that gave us his parents...

If you want to give me the details of the men you think may have been from another country, I'll have a quick look and see if there's anything obvious...

Glad I can be of help, I've had a lot of good help from some good people and wouldn't have got as far as I have without them so it's good to pass it on!

 

[Bushell]

Hi,

Infact I am not sure which family member is from a differnt country however all we know is it is in my nans family (which isnt a big help lol) so I think I may try and digg some stuff up about John Henry Thomas parents, which you stated above are Edward & Elizabeth Thomas and see what happens.