I'm puzzled by these two

[horse]

Problem solved

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

I don't know which is right but I won't be ordering a copy anyway.

My connection is to Robert's son C.T. and his marriage to Jane Sands, a sibling of one in my direct line.

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Esther's middle name:

According to the Cheshire Parish Register Database Stephen Morris married Mary Wilkinson at Great Budworth on 31/12/1792. The witnesses were John Wilkinson and John Moores.


The youngest of Esther's children born in Vic. No sign after that of spouse David Williams.

Surname: WILLIAMS
Given Names: Ettie
Event: B
Father: David
Mother: Esther Wilkinson ANDERSON
Birth Place: PRAHRAN
Year: 1887
Reg Number: 31161
Denomination:
Parish:
Fiche:

 

[horse]

A little niggling though, 99% sure, but 1% doubt

With the other marriage info fitting well, it looks like a simple error in the BMD.

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Marriage has both junior and senior as uphosterers so not much doubt. And middle name Wilkinson passed down.


Death
Surname: WILLIAMS
Given Names: Esther Wilkinson
***: F
Father: Anderson Robt
Mother:
Age: 36
Birth Place:
Event: D
Death Place: E Melb
Year: 1890
Reg. Number: 12733


Cemetery ST KILDA GENERAL CEMETERY
Given Names ESTHER
Surname WILLIAMS
Date of Service 14/08/1890
Burial Type BURIED
Location Details BAPTIST, MONUMENTAL, COMPARTMENT B GRAVE 503
Public Grave Y/N N
Tenure Date IN PERPETUITY - FOR ALL TIME

 

[horse]

Looks like the youngster d. same year..

Ettie Williams
Birth Year: abt 1888
Age: 2
Death Place: East Melbourne, Victoria
Father: David
Mother: Esther Anderson
Registration Year: 1890
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration Number: 12723

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Yes and

Surname: WILLIAMS
Given Names: David Reg
Event: D
***: M
Father: David
Mother: Esther Wilkinson ANDERSON
Age: 8
Birth Place:
Death Place: S Melb
Year: 1890
Reg. Number: 12924


I can't find the 1881 marriage in TROVE.

The index for the marriage looking up David might have his pob. Looking up Esther it has Manchester.

TROVE has 169 hits for 1890 for 'williams' AND 'david' for Family Notices.

 

[horse]

Y

I can't find the 1881 marriage in TROVE.

The index for the marriage looking up David might have his pob. Looking up Esther it has Manchester.

TROVE has 169 hits for 1890 for 'williams' AND 'david' for Family Notices.

Yeah, lovely popular name

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Bendigo Advertiser (Vic. : 1855 - 1918 ) - Tuesday 12 August 1890 p.2
Esther Williams, the fourth patient attacked
with diphtheria in the Abert Park family,
died this morning in the Melbourne hospital.
No cause can be assigned for the outbreak.

Died 12th and buried 14th.

 

[horse]

Just found that, did they have 3 children?

HERE

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

I have 4:

David Reginald 1882
Emma Rubina 1884
Herbert 1886
Ettie 1887

Ettie must be Esther aged 2 in the article. Or I'm missing a birth.

Emma aged 6 was the first.

Wife of a 'commission agent' - so we have a bit of info.

I'm missing Emma's death - aged abt 6.

Mrs Abbott survived it. She died in 1931.

 

[horse]

Wife of a 'commission agent' - so we have a bit of info.

Yeah, I'll check the E/R's and Probates..

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

No mention of David in the article.

 

[horse]

This may be worth looking into, though occ wrong..

Probate.

David J Williams Cutter Albert Park 1 Apr 1894 121/327 VPRS 28/P3, unit 229;
VPRS 7591/P2, unit 466

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

David Jonathan Williams husband of Caroline - late of Gray Bros. 64th year

22 Victoria avenue.

Edward Southern son-in-law.

That's about 20 years too old.

 

[horse]

David Jonathan Williams husband of Caroline - late of Gray Bros. 64th year

22 Victoria avenue.

Edward Southern son-in-law.

That's about 20 years too old.

Yeah, with that name there are going to be bad hits, only got the odd address to go on. Do we know Mrs Abbott's first name?

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

1912 VIC Electoral Roll - Kooyong - Malvern
ABBOTT Emma, Huntingtower rd., Malvern, home duties

1914 VIC Electoral Roll - Henty - Malvern
ABBOTT Emma, Huntingtower rd., Malvern, home duties

1924 VIC Electoral Roll - Fawkner - Malvern
ABBOTT Emma, 15 Huntingtower rd., Malv., home duties


Death
Surname: ABBOT
Given Names: Emma
Father: Anderson Robt
Mother: Eliza MORRIS
Event: D
Death Place: MALVERN
Age: 81
Year: 1931
Reg Number: 5798

 

[DaveHam9]

Son Herbert should be traced as he might provide a clue re his father David.

I've searched TROVE using 'williams' AND 'david' AND 'commission agent' without success.

 

[horse]

I'm missing Emma's death - aged abt 6.

Emma Robina Williams
Birth Year: abt 1884
Age: 6
Death Place: South Melbourne, Victoria
Father: David
Mother: Esther Wilkinso Anderson
Registration Year: 1890
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration Number: 12875

Geoff

 

[horse]

Looks like a 5th offspring with the same fate

Edwin Owen Williams
Father: David Williams
Mother: Esther Wilkinso Anderson
Birth Place: Prahran, Victoria
Registration Year: 1889
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration Number: 34179

Edwin Owen Williams
Death Place: Prahran, Victoria
Father: M David
Mother: Esther Wilkinso Anderson
Registration Year: 1890
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration Number: 4087

Geoff