Ira Robert William HUTHNANCE

[DaveHam9]

Hello,

NSW marriage 1617/1907 HUTHNANOR IRA R W - EAST GRACE A - KIAMA

Births
13425/1876 EAST GRACE ADELAIDE - JOHN - ELIZABETH - KIAMA
132/1877 HUTHNANCE IRA ROBERT W - JAMES STEVENS - ELIZABETH MALVINA - SYDNEY

Ira is in 1943 E/R Richmond Division NSW

NSW death 13342/1965 HUTHNANCE GRACE ADELAIDE - JOHN - ELIZABETH - HAMILTON

HUTHNANCE Grace Adelaide Death notice 15FEB1965 Death 89 at Adamstown SMH 17FEB1965

Can't see a death in Qld. or NSW for Ira.


My guess is that Ira's father James came from Cornwall.

Regards,

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Father: Ira Robert William Huthnance
Birth/Chris: ... 1877 at ...
Death/Burial: ... 1944 at ...

Mother: Grace Adelaide East
Birth/Chris: ... 1876 at ...
Death/Burial: ... 1965 at ...

Married: ... 1907 at ...


So 1944 but where?

Oh.

2104/1944 HUTHNANCE INA ROBERT WILLIAM - JAMES STEVENS - ELIZABETH - GLEN INNES

 

[DaveHam9]

Births Mar 1838
HUTHNANCE James Stevens Redruth 9 265

So when did he arrive ?

I can't find a baptism.

I can't find James in 1841.

I can't find his marriage in England or NSW.

 

[gibbo]

A possibility for arrival.. not sure cause im still checking it out

NSW
Ship Thomas Arbuthnot 1849

 

[DaveHam9]

3004/1862 huthnance ada s a james s elizabeth m chippendale
3284/1864 huthnance alice e james s elizabeth m redfern
3406/1867 huthnance edith m james s elizabeth m redfern
4028/1869 huthnance hedley h james s elizabeth m redfern
1713/1874 huthnance percy john s james stephen elizabeth malvina sydney
132/1877 huthnance ira robert w james stevens elizabeth malvina sydney
1774/1879 huthnance lottie sophia james stevens elizabeth m sydney
1435/1882 huthnance frank t james s elizabeth m sydney

Huge family:

HUTHNANCE Ann 40 Thomas Arbuthnot 1849 Sydney and/or Newcastle and family Reel 2135, [4/4786] Page 242; Reel 2460, [4/4914]
HUTHNANCE Eleanor inft Thomas Arbuthnot 1849 Sydney and/or Newcastle and family Reel 2135, [4/4786] Page 242; Reel 2460, [4/4914]
HUTHNANCE Esther A 13 Thomas Arbuthnot 1849 Sydney and/or Newcastle and family Reel 2135, [4/4786] Page 242; Reel 2460, [4/4914]
HUTHNANCE Henry 21 Thomas Arbuthnot 1849 Sydney and/or Newcastle and family Reel 2135, [4/4786] Page 242; Reel 2460, [4/4914]
HUTHNANCE James S 8 Thomas Arbuthnot 1849 Sydney and/or Newcastle and family Reel 2135, [4/4786] Page 242; Reel 2460, [4/4914]
HUTHNANCE Jane F 20 Thomas Arbuthnot 1849 Sydney and/or Newcastle and family Reel 2135, [4/4786] Page 242; Reel 2460, [4/4914]
HUTHNANCE John 41 Thomas Arbuthnot 1849 Sydney and/or Newcastle and family Reel 2135, [4/4786] Page 242; Reel 2460, [4/4914]
HUTHNANCE Mary S 18 Thomas Arbuthnot 1849 Sydney and/or Newcastle and family Reel 2135, [4/4786] Page 242; Reel 2460, [4/4914]
HUTHNANCE Samuel 4 Thomas Arbuthnot 1849 Sydney and/or Newcastle and family Reel 2135, [4/4786] Page 242; Reel 2460, [4/4914]


So the family should be in 1841 census.

The marriage should be in Australia.

 

[gibbo]

HUTHNANCE Ann 40 Thomas Arbuthnot 1849 ]
HUTHNANCE Eleanor inft Thomas Arbuthnot 1849
HUTHNANCE Esther A 13 Thomas Arbuthnot 1849
HUTHNANCE Henry 21 Thomas Arbuthnot 1849
HUTHNANCE James S 8 Thomas Arbuthnot 1849
HUTHNANCE Jane F 20 Thomas Arbuthnot 1849
HUTHNANCE John 41 Thomas Arbuthnot 1849
HUTHNANCE Mary S 18 Thomas Arbuthnot 1849
HUTHNANCE Samuel 4 Thomas Arbuthnot 1849

 

[gibbo]

We even both highlighted James's name :2fun::2fun:

 

[DaveHam9]

Yes. Thanks.

I bet Ann's maiden name is STEVENS.

So the marriage should be in NSW around 1860. I've looked for all James & Elizabeth marriages.

 

[DaveHam9]

Ah.

The one born 1838 died young.

The one in shipping record was not born Cornwall.

Births Jun 1840
Huthnance James Clifton 11 281


I still can't find the family in 1841.


A tree has marriage in 1862 in Sydney.

 

[gibbo]

121/1862 huthnance jamie steven robins elizabeth m sydney

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks gibbo.

1841 needed now.

 

[gibbo]

Possible 1841??

name: James Huthnance
event date: 1841
gender: Male
age: 4
record type: Household
registration district: Clifton
sub-district: St Philip & Jacob
civil parish: St Philip & Jacob Without
county: Gloucestershire

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks gibbo. That is the right location to match the birth reg in Clifton.

But age 4 years does not fit. The 2nd James was born mid 1840.

The tree has:

St Philip and St Jacob, Gloucestershire for Esther Ann.


Oh. FreCEN has done only 23% of Gloucestershire for 1841.

Deaths Jun 1840
HUTHNANCE James Clifton 11 253

 

[gibbo]

Dave i dont know if this helps or not or you may have seen it alreay but on the actual passenger list it has

James S age 8 son place of birth as Bristol Somerset
Samuel age 4 son place of birth Greenwich Kent
Eleanor inf daughter place of birth St Ivy Cornwall.

Looks like they moved around a bit before heading here.

 

[DaveHam9]

Yes, gibbo.

Clifton is just outside Bristol in Gloucestershire and very close to Somerset.- HERE

Somerset might be correct depending exactly where they lived. The birth was registered in Clifton.