Isabella DOWEY/DOWNEY ??

[DaveHam9]

Marriage 491/1858 ROOK JAMES - DOWEY ISABELLA - SYDNEY * 21 Jun 1858

Death 13117/1912 ROOK ISABELLA (DOWNEY) 75 YRS REDFERN REDFERN * 24 Jul 1912

The Sydney Morning Herald - Thu 25 Jul 1912 p.8
DEATHS
ROOK.-On July 24, at Redfern, Isabella, relict of the late James Rook, of Bristol, England in her 76th year.


James was of Bristol. Isabella may be Irish. ??

Looking for births for James and Isabella and their arrivals.

Thanks,

Dave

 

[emeltee]

Possible baptism for James

James Rook 10 March 1833 Bristol, parents John and Mary

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Emeltee.

Perhaps informant was guessing re father's name.

Death 858/1877 ROOKE JAMES - JAMES DIED SYDNEY SYDNEY * 24 May 1877

Death notice Rook and funeral notice Rooke.

Age at death 45.

 

[DaveHam9]

Isabella and James not buried next to each other but in very different sections of Rookwood cemetery.

JAMES ROOK Age 45 - 26/05/1877 Section J 1621

ISABELLA ROOK Age 75 - 25/07/1912 Section RRR 1932

 

[emeltee]

The baptism was at St James Church, Bristol according to fs

 

[DaveHam9]

James RookEvent Type: CensusEvent Date: 1841Event Place: Lydney, Gloucestershire, England, United KingdomGender: MaleAge: 7Age: 7Birth Year (Estimated): 1834Birthplace: GloucestershireRegistration District: ChepstowParish: LydneyCounty: GloucestershirePage Number: 5Registration Number: HO107Piece/Folio: 350/18Affiliate Record Type: Household

Household
Role
***
Age
Birthplace
John Rook

Male
30
Gloucestershire
Mary Rook

Female
29
Gloucestershire
James Rook

Male
7
Gloucestershire
John Rook

Male
4
Gloucestershire

James Rook
Event Type:
Census
Event Date:
1841
Event Place:
Lydney, Gloucestershire, England, United Kingdom
Gender:
Male
Age:
7
Age:
7
Birth Year (Estimated):
1834
Birthplace:
Gloucestershire
Registration District:
Chepstow
Parish:
Lydney
County:
Gloucestershire
Page Number:
5
Registration Number:
HO107
Piece/Folio:
350/18
Affiliate Record Type:
Household
Household Role *** Age Birthplace
John Rook Male 30 Gloucestershire
Mary Rook Female 29 Gloucestershire
James Rook Male 7 Gloucestershire
John Rook Male 4 Gloucestershire

 

[DaveHam9]

Don't know yet if parents also arrived.

??
ROOKE James 26 'Emma' 1857 Sydney and/or Newcastle Reel 2138, [4/4793]; Reel 2475, [4/4967]

Not that one - wheelwright from Middx.

 

[horse]

Something to ponder... No john Jr and a possible remarriage for John Sr

1851

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

Son is James is still there.

Oh no John.

Dave

 

[horse]

Thanks Geoff.

Son is James.

Yep, he fits OK?

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Yes, it is son James who ends up in Australia.

 

[horse]

Thanks Geoff.

Son is James is still there.

Oh no John.

Yep, his brother..

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Still not sure we are right Geoff.

If we are then death reg is wrong. If death reg is right we have wrong family.

A James Rook(e) born abt 1832 Bristol with father = James ??

Dave

 

[horse]

Still not sure we are right Geoff.

Would agree, just that there are a couple of similarities with the 1841, perhaps one for the back-burner for now..

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Looks to be same family but is it the right family.

Seems only one Rook family in Bristol area in 1841 so perhaps informant got father wrong.

Still looking for arrival 1851 - 1858.

 

[horse]

I wouldn't necessarily say the birth is agreed yet

Re. Em's post #2
James Rook
Christening Date: 10 Mar 1833
Place: Bristol, Gloucestershire
Father: John Rook & Mother: Mary Rook

and this..

James Rook
Baptism Date: 11 May 1834
Baptism Place: Lydney, Gloucestershire
Father: John Rook & Mother: Mary Anne Rook
[Occ = labourer. Abode = Lydney]

I guess we need to know if he was from Lydney or Bristol?

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

All I have is 'of Bristol' in post #1.

Dave

 

[horse]

All I have is 'of Bristol' in post #1.

So that would be the 1833, father still = John. I can't see a birth/bap with father = James

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Ok, looks like informant got it wrong but perhaps not the Lydney family.

I can't find another family that fits.

Dave

 

[horse]

Ok, looks like informant got it wrong but perhaps not the Lydney family.

I can't find another family that fits.

No other plausible answer at mo, Dave..

There is at least one tree that has the 1833 bap and the death reg and puts parents unknown.. You can see why!

Geoff