James ANDERSON

[DaveHam9]

1851
HO107 Piece 1545 Folio 399 Page 26
Civil Parish: St. Mary Whitechapel
County: Middlesex
Address: Hereford Terrace
ANDERSON
James 47 Solicitors clerk Dublin, Ireland
Eleanor 41 Athlone, Ireland
Mary Jane 19 Milliner Dublin
Sarah Anne 15 App. milliner Stepney
Ella Elizabeth 12 Stepney
Marcella L. 10 Stepney
Ann A. 8 Stepney
Eleanor 4 Whitechapel
Margaret under 2 months Whitechapel


James arrived in Australia 1851 - 1854 ???

http://www.darlinghurst.biz/history/roberttaylor.htm
... 30 December 1854, John Taylor, leased to Mary Ann Kelly a property in Taylors Lane, Old South Head Road (book 35 No. 271)
... James Anderson of Sydney aforesaid Chief Clerk in the office of the Master in Equity. ...

1858 NSW Sands Directory
ANDERSON James, clerk, Supreme Court, Pitt-street, Redfern


When and where did Eleanor die?

 

[DaveHam9]

Seems he retired about 1870:

The Sydney Morning Herald - Wednesday 4 May 1870 p.3
LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY.
TUESDAY.
THE SPEAKER took the chair at twenty-nine minutes past 3 o'clock.
APPOINTMENT OF THE CHIEF CLERK IN EQUITY.
Mr. BUCHANAN asked the Colonial Secretary,-"Has the appointment of Chief Clerk in Equity, lately held by Mr. James Anderson, solicitor, been filled up ; and if so, by whom, and at what salary ...


Also not sure when James died:

Death 1334/1882 ANDERSON JAMES AGE 79 YEARS DIED SYDNEY SYDNEY ?

ANDERSON James Funeral notice 07FEB1881 Funeral SMH 07FEB1881 ??

ANDERSON James Funeral notice 20APR1882 Funeral late of Surry Hills SMH 20APR1882 ??

ANDERSON James Funeral notice 19NOV1884 Funeral SMH 19NOV1884 ??

 

[gibbo]

1277/1898 ANDERSON ELEANOR PATRICK ELLEN CROOKWELL


In the Will of ELEANOR ANDER
SON, late of Binda, formerly of Goulburn,
in the colony of New South Wales, Widow,
deceased.
NOTICE is hereby given that all Creditors and
other persons having any Debt or Claim upon
or affecting the esatoeof ELEANOR ANDERSON,
the ubovenamed deceased, who died on or about the
30th day of December, 1897, and Probate of whoso
will was granted by the Supreme Court of New
South Wales in its Probate Jurisdiction on the 17th
day of February, 1898, to SARAH ANN FRASER, etc etc

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/art...on"&searchLimits=exactPhrase=Eleanor+anderson

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks gibbo.

What do you have that shows that to be the right one?

 

[gibbo]

Thanks gibbo.

What do you have that shows that to be the right one?

Oh i got nothing to prove it, i just thought it sounded like the right one

 

[gibbo]

day of february, 1898, to sarah ann fraser, etc etc

17114/1918 fraser sarah a james eleanor crookwell

 

[DaveHam9]

Ah. :2fun:

Well, you are correct.

1st marriage 1402/1859 RENWICK HUGH - ANDERSON SARAH ANN - BATHURST

2nd marriage 1682/1870 FRASER FRANCIS WILLIAM - RUWICK SARAH ANN - BATHURST

Death 17114/1918 FRASER SARAH A - JAMES - ELEANOR - CROOKWELL

The Sydney Morning Herald - Saturday 2 November 1918 p.
IN THE SUPREME COURT OF NEW SOUTH WALES.-Probate Jurisdiction.-In the Will of SARAH ANN FRASER late of Binda in the State of New South Wales, Widow, deceased ...

 

[DaveHam9]

So now we have Eleanor's parents but we will be lucky to find her birth/baptism in Ireland but I'll look.

James will prove difficult being such a common name but I think more searching in TROVE might pick up the right one. Try and find him before 1854 and sort out his death.

 

[gibbo]

5614/1890 ANDERSON JAMES JAMES HANNAH GOULBURN

Just going to find a death notice if there is one.

 

[gibbo]

There are heaps and heaps of James Anderson's
I'm still looking.

 

[DaveHam9]

I think the Goulburn one is out. He seems to be a director of a gold company.

 

[gibbo]

So only 65 more to eliminate then :biggrin:

Im checking between the years of 1870 and 1897. Im gathering that he died before Eleanor as the daughter been the exc.

 

[DaveHam9]

Empire (Sydney, NSW : 1850 - 1875) - Tuesday 13 December 1853 p.1S
...
Dated this thirty-first day of Octobor, A.D., 1853.
SAMUEL FREDERICK MILFORD, Master in Equity.

That does not help much. James may have been in Sydney some time before he started working for the Supreme Court.

 

[DaveHam9]

Yes, before Eleanor. She would have moved to Binda to a married daughter.


TROVE has updated.

 

[gibbo]

In the Will of ELEANOR ANDER
SON, late of Binda, formerly of Goulburn,
in the colony of New South Wales, Widow,
deceased.

I keep coming back to the "formerly of Goulburn" bit.

 

[DaveHam9]

Daughter Marcella married in Goulburn in 1860 and died there in 1920.

If Eleanor had been living with them why move to live with an older daughter at Binda?

Unless James and Eleanor retired to Goulburn.

I was searching using "james anderson" AND "clerk in equity" and it only returns one hit:

... Mrs. William Allingham, sen., third daughter of the late Mr. James Anderson, chief clerk in Equity, Supreme Court ...


We need the NSW E/R.

 

[gibbo]

We need the NSW E/R.

Yeah i think so. There are just to many of them otherwise.

 

[DaveHam9]

Very few available 1842 to 1902 and to be on the roll you had to be a land owner or similar.

One published for 1870-1871 and 1878-79.

Greville's Post Office Directory 1872
FURNER Owen storekeeper Sloane St. Goulburn

1870-71 and 1878-79 NSW Electoral Roll - Goulburn
FURNER Owen, Sloane-street, freehold, Goulburn


http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/state...ng-aids/archives-in-brief/archives-in-brief-5


1843
Men (over 21 and British subjects) owning freehold property to a value exceeding £200, or householders occupying a dwelling house with an annual value exceeding £20. A man could vote in every electorate where he held the necessary property for at least six months.

 

[DaveHam9]

Of the 8 daughters only 3 found so far:

Assisted immigrants arriving in Sydney & Newcastle, 1844-59
ANDERSON Lucy Eleanor 19 and sister Carnatic 1853 2464
ANDERSON Mary Jane 21 and sister Carnatic 1853 2464
ANDERSON Sarah Anne 17 Carnatic 1853 2464

Mary Ann 21 Milliner Dublin CofE Both
Lucy Eleanor 19 Housemaid London CofE Both
Sarah Anne 17 Milliner London CofE Both

Parents: James & Eleanor living at 4 Hereford Terrace, Oxford St, Mill End London
Relations in Colony: None

Actually that narrows down the search for James and Eleanor a bit more.

1 Jan 1853 to 30 Dec 1854.

http://www.historic-shipping.co.uk/robwigram/carnat 33.html