James & Ann LEAR

[DaveHam9]

Hello,

Marriages Dec 1840
HORWOOD Ann Keynsham 11 134
LEAR James Keynsham 11 134

I'd like a look up for this family in 1841 please in Gloucester / Somerset.

Regards,

Dave

 

[davelambert271]

Hi Dave

LEAR, James M 20 1821 Gloucestershire
LEAR, Ann F 20 1821 Gloucestershire

RG number:HO107 Piece:361 Book/Folio:10 Page:14

Registration District:Keynsham
Sub District:Oldland

Civil Parish:Bitton
Address:Near Hanham, Bitton, Oldland Gloucestershire

dave

 

[juliejtp]

Hi Dave,

A possibilty

1841

CP Bitton
RD Keynsham
Sub RD Bitton

James Lear age 20 occ Lab
Ann Lear age 20

Both born in county

Class H0107
Piece 361
Book 18
Folio 10
Page 14

Also listed on the same page but a couple of dwellings away is a Mary Lear age 70

 

[DaveHam9]

Thank you dave

Thank you Julie.

A brother George was baptised at Hanham.


Ok, it may seem odd but this is why I'm looking:

Name: James LEWTON
Date of Death: 18 May 1902
Place: Murray Street Waterloo, NSW
Occupation: Old Age Pensioner, Retire Produce Dealer
***; male
Age: 80
Conjugal Status:
Place of Birth: Bristol, England
Time in Aust Colonies: 3 years in Victoria, 36 years in NSW

Father: John LEWTON [Aaron]
Occupation: Produce Dealer
Mother: Ann (Surname Unknown)

Place of Marriage: 1. Bristol, England
Age at Marriage: 1. Unknown
Name of Spouse: 1. Ann (Surname Unknown)
Children of Marriage: 1. Unknown

Joseph is a brother:

The Sydney Morning Herald - Friday 4 July 1890 p.1
PUBLIC NOTICE.-I will not be responsible for any Debts contracted by my wife, ALICE MAUD LEWTON LEAR after this date, July 3, 1890.
JOSEPH LEWTON LEAR, late of Leichhardt.

James arrived in Australia about 1863 so please look for him in 1861. Thanks.

Regards,

Dave

 

[juliejtp]

Hi Dave,

Looked under Lewton

CP Oldland
RD Keynsham
Sub RD Oldland
Kingswood

James Lewton age 39 occ victualler
Ann wife age 35
Alice dau age 15
Emeley dau age 12
Frederick son age 1
Albert Willoughby servant

Class RG9
Piece 1700
Folio 93
Page 36

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello Julie,

Thanks.

There is no sign of a marriage for a James LUTON / LEWTON to an Ann but that does not mean there wasn't one.

Ok. 1871 as LEWTON please and that should solve one part of the puzzle.

Thanks.

Regards,

Dave

 

[juliejtp]

Hi Dave,

I had a look in 1871 after finding this couple in '61, they didnt show up.
Will go and have another look

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello Julie,

If they can't be seen in 1871 then it's possible that like his brother he married using the name LEAR for some reason.

There is no sign of a death for spouse Ann that fits in RD Keynsham 1861-1864.

I've not yet found James alone or with any family in shipping records. All I have is the bit from his death certificate: Died 1902: Time in Aust Colonies: 3 years in Victoria, 36 years in NSW.

I had no idea about possible children from his first marriage so now assuming Ann and the children came to Australia I will search for deaths here.

Regards,

Dave

 

[juliejtp]

Sorry Dave couldnt find them.

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello Julie,

Thanks for looking.

One last request. As LEAR or LEWTON in 1851 thanks.


Regards,

Dave

 

[juliejtp]

Looks like the 1851 may have cleared the mystery up. James occupation is cheesemonger.

CP Bitton
RD Keynsham
Sub RD Bitton

James Lear age 29
Ann Lear age 35
Alice Lear age 5
Emily Lear age 2

All born Oldland

Class H0107
Piece 1944
Folio 331
Page 4

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello Julie,

Thank you very much.

I think we are dealing with the same James. The Hanham, Bitton is a good clue in 1841. It's just very curious how some records for James and his brother have LEAR.

I've only found that one reference where Joseph called himself LEWTON LEAR. Both death certificates just have LEWTON. And both marriages just have LEAR.

Regards,

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello Julie,


:2fun:

I'll have to ask for one more. His brother has not been found in 1841 probably because we didn't look under LEAR.

Here he is in 1851:

1851 Wales Census
Civil Parish: Swansea
Registration District: Swansea
County: Glamorganshire
Address: - Street
LEWTON, Joseph Head Married M 25 1826 Cheese Factor (Hawking Cheese) Kingswood Gloucestershire
LEWTON, Mary Wife Married F 1828 Kingswood Gloucestershire

Thanks.

Regards,

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello Julie,

I've deleted the duplicate post I had re Joseph. I won't guess which county he is in in 1841.

Regards,

Dave

 

[juliejtp]

Hi Dave,

Nothing conclusive as of yet.

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello Julie,

Thanks for looking.

Sorry, I should have added the marriage was in 1847 so he'd be single. Looks as though the parents both died before 1841 and the four children had gone their own ways by 1841.

Also the other brother George has only been found in 1851 so he is yet to be found in 1841. I have nothing at all to suggest George might have used LEAR. I have his death in Australia - he is my GGG Grandfather.

1851
George Lewton
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1815
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Bitton, Gloucestershire, England
Civil Parish: Devizes St James
County/Island: Wiltshire
Country: England
Street address: nursery
Occupation: coach builder
Registration district: Devizes
Sub registration district: Bishops Cannings
Household schedule number: 125
Household Members: Name Age
George Lewton 36
Elizabeth Lewton 36
Elizabeth Lewton 13

Thanks.

Regards,

Dave

 

[juliejtp]

Hi Dave,

There is this Joseph Lear in 1841 - See what you think!

CP Bitton
RD Keynsham
Sub RD Bitton

John Lear age 15 occ coal -----
Joseph Lear age 15 occ coal-----
Mary Lear age 12 occ pin-----

All born in county. On the next page there are some more Lears, Edward age 25, Hannah age 25 and Robert age 6.

Class H0107
Piece 361
Book 16
Folio 56
Page 15

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello Julie,

Thanks for looking.

Wish I could say yes, YES, YES

If that had been George and Joseph and Elizabeth. :2fun:


I have four children born to my Aaron LEWTON / LUTON & Ann HODGES:

George Lewton - 13th August 1815 at Hanham Abbots
Son of Aaron & Ann of Grimsby Green
Fathers Occupation - Fish Hawker
Reg: 2a Page: 18 No: 114

I have George from 1851 onwards to his death in Victoria.


Elizabeth LUTON - Aaron & Ann Batch: C043961
b. 26 Aug 1818 c. 22 Sep 1818 Kingswood School-Nc, Bitton, Gloucester, England

I've not tried to trace her yet.


James b. abt 1822 Bitton - no baptism found - looks as though we have him 1841-1861 and then in Victoria abt 1863.


Joseph b. abt 1826 Bitton - no baptism found - we have him in Wales in 1851 and on vessel in 1857 to Victoria.

BTW: There are TWO Aaron LUTONs and the one who married Hannah can be found in 1841 with several daughters is not my Aaron.

Regards,

Dave