James & Ann LEAR ?

[DaveHam9]

Hello cp,

Marriages Sep 1845
Cobb William Bristol 11 223
Cole Mary Bristol 11 223
Cridland Jane Bristol 11 223
Davies William Bristol 11 223
DAVIS William Bristol 11 223
FRY Frederick Bristol 11 223
Howes Ann Bristol 11 223
Lambert Mary Rebecca Bristol 11 223
LEAR James Bristol 11 223

I'm hoping we can match these and find by elimination that James LEAR married Ann HOWES.

I'll start looking for marriage records on FamilySearch site.

Regards,

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello cp,

groom's name: James Lear
groom's birth date:
groom's birthplace:
groom's age:
bride's name: Ann Howes
bride's birth date:
bride's birthplace:
bride's age:
marriage date: 01 Aug 1845
marriage place: Temple Church, Bristol, Gloucester, England
groom's father's name: Evan Lear
groom's mother's name:
bride's father's name: Abner Howes
bride's mother's name:
groom's race:
groom's marital status:
groom's previous wife's name:
bride's race:
bride's marital status:
bride's previous husband's name:
indexing project (batch) number: M17295-3
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1596297
reference number:


Now to prove Evan = Aaron :2fun:

All I have on the death certificate is that James married Ann Unknown at Bristol year unknown.


Edward BRYANT & Martha HOWES
Marriage: 5 Jun 1838 Temple, Bristol, Gloucester, England


groom's name: Edward Bryant
groom's birth date:
groom's birthplace:
groom's age:
bride's name: Martha Howes
bride's birth date: 1820
bride's birthplace:
bride's age: 18
marriage date: 1838
marriage place: Temple, Bristol, Gloucester, England
groom's father's name: William Bryant
groom's mother's name:
bride's father's name: Abner Howes
bride's mother's name:
groom's race:
groom's marital status:
groom's previous wife's name:
bride's race:
bride's marital status:
bride's previous husband's name:
indexing project (batch) number: M17295-2
system origin: England-VR
source film number: 1596296
reference number: 2:1M12GDL


All falls into place because of the doubt about the father of the groom in the Ann HORWOOD marriage.

Death certificate on the way to prove it.

Regards,

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello cp,

groom's name: Abnor Howes
groom's birth date:
groom's birthplace:
groom's age:
bride's name: Ann Jones
bride's birth date:
bride's birthplace:
bride's age:
marriage date: 05 Dec 1814
marriage place: St. Philip And St. Jacob'S Church, Bristol, Gloucester, England
groom's father's name:
groom's mother's name:
bride's father's name:
bride's mother's name:
groom's race:
groom's marital status:
groom's previous wife's name:
bride's race:
bride's marital status:
bride's previous husband's name:

They had several other children but I'm not chasing them.

Regards,

Dave

 

[crankypants]

Hi Dave

Glad you ordered marriage cert, will be interesting.

Did you want census for Abner & Ann.

cheers
cp

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello cp,

If this one had the fathers name it would have been good.
I'm stuck with too many Ann/Hannah HODGES in the area.

Trying to prove that Aaron's parents are William LEWTON and Ann LEAR.

groom's name: Aaron Lear
groom's birth date:
groom's birthplace:
groom's age:
bride's name: Ann Hodges
bride's birth date:
bride's birthplace:
bride's age:
marriage date: 09 May 1818
marriage place: St. Philip And St. Jacob'S Church, Bristol, Gloucester, England
groom's father's name:
groom's mother's name:
bride's father's name:
bride's mother's name:
groom's race:
groom's marital status:
groom's previous wife's name:
bride's race:
bride's marital status:
bride's previous husband's name:
indexing project (batch) number: M02106-8
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1595894
reference number: p 222 n 664

Regards,

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello cp,

Please just 1841 for Abner and Ann. Thanks.

Regards,

Dave

 

[crankypants]

Hi Dave

1841
Civil parish: Bitton
Hundred: Langley and Swinehead (Upper Division)
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England
Registration district: Keynsham
Sub-registration district: Bitton
Address: Kingswood Hill, Bitton, Oldland

HOWES, Abner M 40 1801 Gloucestershire (Farmer)
HOWES, Ann F 40 1801 Gloucestershire
HOWES, Ann F 15 1826 Gloucestershire
HOWES, Abner M 12 1829 Gloucestershire
HOWES, Robert M 10 1831 Gloucestershire
HOWES, Mary F 6 1835 Gloucestershire
HOWES, Sarah F 4 1837 Gloucestershire

1851
Civil parish: Hanham
Ecclesiastical parish: Hanham
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England
Registration district: Keynsham
Sub-registration district: Bitton
Address: Jeffries Hill Hanham Street, Hamlet Of Hanham

HOWES, Abner Head Married M 56 1795 Innkeeper Mangotsfield Gloucestershire
HOWES, Ann Wife Married F 53 1798 Dometis Duties Bitton Gloucestershire
HOWES, Abner Son Unmarried M 22 1829 Furrier Bitton Gloucestershire
HOWES, Robert Son Unmarried M 20 1831 Butcher Bitton Gloucestershire
HOWES, Mary Daughter Unmarried F 16 1835 Domestic Duties Bitton Gloucestershire
HOWES, Sarah Daughter Unmarried F 14 1837 Scholar Bitton Gloucestershire


cheers
cp

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello cp,

Thanks. That shows that Ann was not there in 1851.

The census listings give Ann's birth about 1827.

Martha is not there because she married in 1838.

Re Evan v. Aaron there are some Evan LEARs in the area. But I can't find enough to rule that marriage out on the basis of the father's name.

What next?

One we have not yet found in 1841 is Joseph LEWTON born abt 1826 Bitton.

Any chance he is listed as HODGES as his brother George seems to be or as LEAR as his sister Elizabeth and brother James seem to be. He married Mary PEACOCK in 1847 so he is single. He was a cheese hawker in 1851.

Regards,

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello cp,

Looks as though this rules out the third James LEAR.

groom's name: James Lear
groom's birth date:
groom's birthplace:
groom's age:
bride's name: Emma Scuse
bride's birth date:
bride's birthplace:
bride's age:
marriage date: 1843
marriage place: Saint George, Bristol, Gloucester, England
groom's father's name: Francis Lear
groom's mother's name:
bride's father's name: Abraham Scuse
bride's mother's name:
groom's race:
groom's marital status:
groom's previous wife's name:
bride's race:
bride's marital status:
bride's previous husband's name:

Regards,

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello cp,

I found this one but not sure if we had it before and ruled it out?

name: Joseph Lear
event: Census
event date: 1841
gender: Male
age: 15
birthplace: Gloucestershire
record type: Household
registration district: Keynsham
sub-district: Oldland
civil parish: Bitton
county: Gloucestershire

This is the other one the same age but further away.

name: Joseph Lear
event: Census
event date: 1841
gender: Male
age: 15
birthplace:
record type: Household
registration district: Cheltenham Union
sub-district: Cheltenham
civil parish: Cheltenham
county: Gloucestershire


Regards,

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello cp,

I'm not finding any more that helps. I spoke 30 seconds too soon.

Any sign of a Abner HOWES with Martha & Ann on a tree?

http://howesfamilies.com/getperson.php?personID=I1727&tree=Onename

http://howesfamilies.com/getperson.php?personID=I10648&tree=Onename

I love it: Witness to Ann's marriage - Edward BRYANT

Elder brother of Martha & Ann, Thomas ended up in Victoria by abt 1859.

Any sign of a George & Elizabeth HODGES on a tree?

Nothing on RootsWeb that helps.

Regards,

Dave

 

[crankypants]

Hi Dave

Checked yesterday for George & Ann HODGES trees, nothing. Only one public tree with Abner & Ann HOWES that mentions daughter Ann who married Edward COLEY.

cheers
cp

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello cp,

Thanks.

I refuse to believe that tree. :2fun:

I think sister Martha's spouse as a witness is good enough for me.

A bit curious the HOWES site didn't have Ann's marriage.

Regards,

Dave