James ARMITAGE

[DaveHam9]

Hello,

1841
Newsom, Almondbury
James Armitage 50 Stone Mason
Betty Armitage 50
Martha Armitage 15

I'd like the census reference please and any more details that might be available.

Thanks.

Regards,

Dave

 

[barbarajoh]

HO107/1273/1 Folio 7 Page 10

No other details apart form born in county and living at Newsom-
Other Armitage family next door

James 30can't read occupation but looks like Fancy Weaver
Mary 30
Rebecca 13
Harriot 10
Ruth 8
Mary 4
Alfred 8 mo
and Joseph heward 24 Lodger then lodger crossed out. All born in county.

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Barbara.

I've not tried to find out yet how the family next door might be related.

I'll add that to my list.

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello,

James & Betty had a son James baptised 18 Nov 1821 at Almondbury.

I have found two married in 1841 but looking for a death in RD Huddersfield to 1851 for a James I can see a total of 12. It's possible neither of these is my James.

1841
Class H0107 Piece 1273 Book 2 Folio -- Page 1
CP: Almondbury
RD: Huddersfield
Sub-RD: Almondbury
Salford
James Armitage age 25 occ shoe m
Martha Armitage age 25
Both born in county

1841
Class H0107 Piece 1275 Book 5 Folio 45 Page 33
CP: Huddersfield
RD: Huddersfield
Sub-RD: Huddersfield
James Armitage age 20 occ green grocer
Mary Ann Armitage age 22
Both born in county

I'm having trouble finding the marriage to Martha, even allowing for James to be 4 years older than indicated and married at 17.

Found a possible although it's not Mary Ann.

Spouse: MARY ELLIS
Marriage: 23 APR 1832 Almondbury


Regards,

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

The daughter of James next door:

name: Ruth Armitage
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 04 Aug 1833
baptism/christening place: Almondbury, Holme-Bridge, York, England
birth date:
birthplace:
death date:
name note:
race:
father's name: James Armitage
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Mary
mother's birthplace:
mother's age:
indexing project (batch) number: I03314-8
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 990856
reference number: item 146 p 19

I was looking to see if Mary's name was there. I've started looking to see how the family next door might be related.

I found the baptism of a different Alfred. Can't find Rebecca or Mary.

I can't find the marriage for that James & Mary that would be about 1828.

 

[DaveHam9]

Three born about the right time and place.

name: Armitage
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 26 Sep 1810
baptism/christening place: INDEPENDENT,HIGHFIELD BY HUDDERSFIELD,YORK,ENGLAND
birth date: 18 Sep 1810
birthplace:
death date:
name note:
race:
father's name: John Armitage
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Mary
mother's birthplace:
mother's age:
indexing project (batch) number: C08607-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 828128
reference number:


name: Armitage
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 29 Mar 1811
baptism/christening place: INDEPENDENT,HIGHFIELD BY HUDDERSFIELD,YORK,ENGLAND
birth date: 16 Nov 1810
birthplace:
death date:
name note:
race:
father's name: Joseph Armitage
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Mary
mother's birthplace:
mother's age:
indexing project (batch) number: C08607-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 828128
reference number:


name: James Armitage
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 25 Oct 1811
baptism/christening place: HIGH STREET CHAPEL METHODIST NEW CONNEXION,HUDDERSFIELD,YORK,ENGLAND
birth date: 08 Oct 1811
birthplace:
death date:
name note:
race:
father's name: William Armitage
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Hannah
mother's birthplace:
mother's age:
indexing project (batch) number: C13607-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: unknown
reference number:

 

[barbarajoh]

While looking for your Armitages, I found two Barnoclough children with Frances (Francis) and Betty Armitage as grandparents. Their abode is Newsom and with your Barroclough connection I wondered if you had this already or had no Barroclough/Armitage connection?? I can give you details if you want them.

Barbara

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello Barbara,

I do have a Barraclough/Armitage connection but both families names are very common in the area around of Huddersfield so it's possible they could be related and equally possible they are not.

Please give me the details because it is Newsom and I'll see where it takes me.

Regards,

Dave

 

[barbarajoh]

My apologies Dave, there is only one. It is repeated in the index.

Register of Births and Baptism at Queen St Wesleyan Chapel, Huddersfield

TNA - RG4 Piece 3037 Folio 76

John Barnaclough
baptised 22 September 1833
born 21 Janurary 1833

Parish of Abode - Newsom Cross, Almondbury, Huddersfield
ceremony performed by George Highfield

parents Jacob Barnaclough, Clothier
Mary Barnaclough

maternal parents Frances and Betty Armitage.

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello Barbara,

Oh dear. Have I spent the last five years chasing the WRONG maternal grandparents.

Do we have 2 x Jacob & Mary with a son John born 1833 who married an Armitage?

Oh.

 

[DaveHam9]

This is the marriage of my gg grandfather

Yorkshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1854
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
ASKHAM Mary E BARRACLOUGH John Holy Trinity, Rothwell Leeds CE109/C/181

Mar 1854
Askam Mary Elizabeth Hunslet 9b 240
Askham Mary Elizabeth Hunslet 9b 240
Baraclough John Hunslet 9b 240
Barraclough John Hunslet 9b 240


** Have copy **

1854 #181 - Mar 6, 1854 in Parish Church Rothwell - County of York
John Barraclough 21 Bachelor Mason Almondbury Jacob Barraclough Weaver
Mary Elizabeth Askham 20 Spinster ------- Rothwell Ricd. Askham Gardener
Witnesses: Thomas Crossland & William Gibson

Age 21 in 1854 Almondbury and father =Jacob a weaver

All the details I previously had for his baptism - no mention of maternal grandparents back then 5 years ago -


Name: John BARROWCLOUGH
Birth: 21 Jan 1833
Christening: 22 Sep 1833 Queens St Wesleyan, Huddersfield, Yorkshire
Father: Jacob BARROWCLOUGH
Mother: Mary ARMITAGE

 

[DaveHam9]

Living with Jacob & Mary is Mary's sister Martha Armitage:


1851
HO107 Piece 2294 Folio 7 Page 6
RD: Huddersfield
Address: 943, Newsome Cross
BARRACLOUGH, Jacob Head Married M 42 1809 Blacking Manufacturer Kirkburton, Yorkshire
BARRACLOUGH, M Wife Married F 39 1812 Kirkburton, Yorkshire
BARACLOUGH, John Son Unmarried M 18 1833 Stone Mason Almondbury, Yorkshire
BARACLOUGH, J Son M 16 1835 Joiner Apprentice Almondbury, Yorkshire
BARACLOUGH, B Son M 14 1837 Errand Boy Blacking Almondbury, Yorkshire
BARACLOUGH, S Daughter F 10 1841 Scholar Almondbury, Yorkshire
BARACLOUGH, C A Daughter F 9 1842 Scholar Almondbury, Yorkshire
ARMITAGE, Martha Sister Married [?] F 27 1824 Cotton Warper Almondbury, Yorkshire

1861
RG9 3255 Folio: 89 Page: 26 Schedule: 134
Place: Almondbury -West Riding of Yorkshire Enumeration District: 5
Civil Parish: Almondbury Ecclesiastical Parish: Lockwood
Address: 943 Newsome Cross
Surname First name(s) Rel Status *** Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
BARRACLOUGH Jacob Head W M 51 Blacking Maker Yorkshire - Kirkburton
BARRACLOUGH Sarah Dau U F 22 Dress Maker Yorkshire - Almondbury
ARMITAGE Martha Lodger U F 37 Dress Maker Yorkshire - Almondbury


Baptism of Martha:

Baptised 14.3.1824 Martha Armitage d/o James, a mason & Betty (nee Oxley) abode: Newsome
Martha ARMITAGE c. 14 Mar 1824 Almondbury, Yorkshire, England
JAS. & Betty


Date and place fit but the names are not Francis & Betty.

Unless Francis/Frances is a mistranscription of James.

 

[barbarajoh]

Just setting the cat amongst the pigeons!

You are so right, it was mistranscribed. Looks nothing like Frances.

This is why the experts say always look at the original.

I am trying to send it to you but with difficulty.

Barbara

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello Barbara,

You had me worried for about 5 seconds. :2fun:

Everything else fits so it had to be James.

Regards,

Dave