James ARNOTT & Janet PROVAN

[DaveHam9]

Marriage 1869 ARNOT JAMES - PROVAN JANET 625/2 32 Holytown

Assisted 'Cardigan Castle' 1883 Sydney Reels 2142, 2494
ARNOTT Janet 32 [Single women]
ARNOTT George 13 [Single men]
ARNOTT Paterson 11
ARNOTT John 7
ARNOTT James 5

Arrived 20 Aug 1883 - Reel 2494 - As Inspected 21 Aug
Janet 32 to Husband - Lanarkshire - Paterson Brown ? Lanark - Meth - Yes - Husband in Sydney
George 13 School - Lanark - Mother on board - ChofE - Yes - Father in Sydney
...

NSW Death 10988/1908 ARNOTT JANET - JOHN - PATERSON - PETERSHAM

The Sydney Morning Herald - Sat 11 Jul 1908 .12
DEATHS
ARNOTT.-July 10, 1908 (suddenly), at her residence 389 Parramatta-road, Leichhardt, Janet, the relict of the late James Hamilton Arnott, aged 58 years.


PROVAN
JANET
JOHN PROVAN/PATERSON
F
22/09/1850
625/
30 431
Bothwell

 

[DaveHam9]

Don't have the arrival yet for James 1871 - 1881.

No birth/bap found on SP.

NSW Death 5855/1900 ARNOTT JAMES H - GEORGE - JANET - LEICHHARDT

The Sydney Morning Herald - Thu 31 May 1900 p.1
Deaths.
ARNOTT.-May 30, 1900, at 389 Parramatta-road, Leichhardt, James Hamilton Arnott, of the Government Tramway Department, in his 51st year. Scotch papers please copy.

 

[emeltee]

Baptism

Janet Provan 22 September 1850 Bothwell, Lanark. Parents John Provan and Paterson McAlpine.

Marriage

John Proven and Patterson McAlpin 12 December 1841 Bothwell. Names as per the transcription.

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Emeltee.

 

[DaveHam9]

Paterson Brown has to be an error ??

That column indicates if parents are deceased or where living as of shipping date 1883.

 

[DaveHam9]

I can't find a death after 1883 for Paterson/Patterson Provan/Proven

Unless Paterson remarried ??

No mention of father John on the shipping record.

 

[DaveHam9]

I should have searched past 1900 first try.

PROVAN
PATERSON
[McALPINE]
79
1902
625/2 150
Holytown

No marriage to a Brown found.

 

[DaveHam9]

Lots of possible deaths for John Provan.

 

[emeltee]

Not quite sure what is going on but 1851 Census in Bothwell has the following entry

John Brown 37 Coal miner Kilsyth, Stirlimgshire
Paterson Brown wife 30 Bothwell
Agnes Brown 9 dau Bothwell
Jean Brown 4 dau Bothwell
Janet Brown 0 dau Bothwell
Janet Mc Alpine 14 sister in law Bothwell

I cannot find a Provan family at all in 1851

1841 also in Bothwell has

Robert McAlpine 50
Agnes McAlpine 45
Robert McAlpine 25
Paterson McAlpine 15
Ann McAlpine 14
James McAlpine 11
John McAlpine 8
Janet McAlpine 3

Janet aged 3 in 1841 fits with the sister in law aged 14 1851

The only marriage I can see for Paterson McAlpine is to John Provan in 1841

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Emeltee.

I don't know what is going on. The 1902 death looks to be the right one.

I'll return to this tomorrow.

 

[emeltee]

I can't find the Brown family in any other Census so could Brown be a very poor transcription of Provan?

 

[DaveHam9]

Not sure Emeltee.

The shipping record in post #5 has mother as Paterson Brown [living in] Lanark.

NSW Birth 28282/1892 ARNOTT REGINALD P R - GEORGE - JANE A - PADDINGTON

Initial P= Provan but no idea re initial R.

 

[horse]

Paterson Brown has to be an error ??

That column indicates if parents are deceased or where living as of shipping date 1883.

View attachment 5893

Father, John still living according to trees.. d. 1887 Kilsyth. So wouldn't have thought a remarriage.

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

If Brown was a bad transcription then why Brown on the shipping record ?

Dave

 

[horse]

If Brown was a bad transcription then why Brown on the shipping record ?

Dunno, Dave.. Looks like Brown or possibly Brovan, the looks right anyway.

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

The only death for a John

LEISHMAN
JOHN
73
MITCHELL
1887
483/ 86
Kilsyth

No death in Kilsyth 1851 - 1920 for a John Prov* born 1814 +/- 5

 

[DaveHam9]

PROVAN
JOHN
43
MAITLAND
1857
644/10 603
Hutchesontown

PROVAN
JOHN
60
STEVENSON
1873
644/2 1905
High Church

 

[horse]

The only death for a John

LEISHMAN
JOHN
73
MITCHELL
1887
483/ 86
Kilsyth

No death in Kilsyth 1851 - 1920 for a John Prov* born 1814 +/- 5

Some trees have little or no info on parents.. others have this, not validated.

"Death 8 Jun 1887 Kilsyth, Stirlingshire, Scotland"

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

If that is correct it is not on SP. Only one death with given name John.

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

No birth/bap on SP for James Arnot(t) abt 1849 Lanark.