James BUCHANAN

[horse]

Hi Dave

I remember at the time saying I couldn't read the witnesses, I forgot to mention John's father's occ., also unclear, however, after blowing it up it looks like 'spirit trader'

I've uploaded a copy, how do I attach it to this post?

Geoff

 

[horse]

haha, it did it once I uploaded it then..

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello Geoff,

Thanks.

Is that Lawyer or Sawyer ?

Second witness looks like Elizabeth Taylor.

To reduce overhead this site limits the file size of attachments meaning most suffer when you try to zoom in.

I throw my stuff on Photobucket but there are similar sites and then just past the link to the file. The file can be any size you like, say 100x the file size allowed for attachments.

Regards,

Dave

 

[horse]

Thanks for that Dave.

I wondered about sawyer, but the L in Labourer looks very similar to that in 'Lawyer'.

Still, narrows down to 2 occupations.
John's could be spirit merchant even.

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Ok, I agree, Geoff.

Spirit like S for Spinster and Lawyer like L for Labourer.

Can't make out the bit after 'Spirit' though.

 

[DaveHam9]

Piece: SCT1841/692 Place: Leith South -Midlothian Enumeration District: 43
Civil Parish: Leith South Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: St John's
Folio: 43 Page: 15
Address: Salamander Street
Surname First name(s) *** Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
BUCHANAN John M 35 Spirit Dealer Outside Census County (1841)
BUCHANAN Agnes F 8 Outside Census County (1841)
BUCHANAN Jane F 7 Outside Census County (1841)
BUCHANAN Agnes F 20 Outside Census County (1841)
MAUCHERS Jane F 20 Female Servant Midlothian


Piece: SCT1851/692 Place: South Leith -Midlothian Enumeration District: 43
Civil Parish: South Leith Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: South Leith
Folio: 750 Page: 12 Schedule: 44
Address: 1 Salamander St
Surname First name(s) Rel Status *** Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
BUCHANAN John Head M M 44 Spirit Merchant Perth - Port Of Monteith
BUCHANAN Mary Wife M F 27 Stirlingshire - Christon
BUCHANAN Agnes Dau U F 19 Shopkeeper Dunbartonshire - Balloch
WEDDELL Jane Sislaw U F 21 Stirlingshire - -
BUCHANAN Mary Dau - F 7 Scholar Midlothian - South Leith
BUCHANAN Walter Son - M 2 Midlothian - South Leith
MACHAR Jane Servnt U F 36 House Servant Midlothian - South Leith


But it's not Elizabeth.

Piece: SCT1841/692 Place: Leith South -Midlothian Enumeration District: 16
Civil Parish: South Leith Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: -
Folio: 16 Page: 6
Address: Darling's Brae
Surname First name(s) *** Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
BUCHANAN John M 50 Labourer Outside Census County (1841)
BUCHANAN Agnes F 45 Outside Census County (1841)
BUCHANAN James M 13 Midlothian

 

[horse]

Hi Dave

Becoming more intriguing by the minute, as it were...

I was trying to make sense of Galawater/Gallawater/Gala Water, being the ship info, when I came across this: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/MIDLOTHIAN/2012-02/1330562472
Someone else having difficulty in reconciling the Buchanan's!

Also, it is not difficult to find a possible, John with 3 wives in Scotland with similar stat's; the ship's info confirms he was in Scotland in 1856, with Elizabeth. Though 2 years earlier John was at James' wedding in West Derby. Just to add to the misery, there are a few Buchanan's marrying in Lancashire from 1840.

I wonder how significant the Elizabeth Taylor at James' wedding is?

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello Geoff,

Thanks. Yes, I came across that (poster is unknown to me) also while searching for 'Gallawater' etc...

The shipping record is supposed to list the actual parents and if dead or if living then where.

If you are thinking John remarried and that 'Elizabeth' is the witness then possibly not.

Looks as though this will be brick wall for a while. I've moved on.

Regards,

Dave

 

[horse]

Hi Dave

I know you've moved on from this one, but the Lawyer/Sawyer issue of John Williams was a bit bugging. In both the 1841 and 1851 censuses they do look like (S)awyer, given that Sarah Jane's mum was a charwoman in 1851, may suggest Sawyer is more practical.

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

I will return to this one next year and several others.

Yes, sawyer would be a better fit.

Dave