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James George EDWARDS

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Births Sep Qtr 1848
EDWARDS James George Frome 10 407


I'd like a look up please for James in 1851 and 1861.

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Hi Dave,
can only find these - James born Frome shows on 1861

1861 census for Wellington Somerset has a James Edwards b Froam Somerset
Benjamin Glass 78 b Wellington Somerset - a weaver wool factory
Ann wife 77 b same
Ann daug single 32 b same
Hannah Edwards daug 40 married b same
Maria Edwards granddaugt 16 b same
Thomas Edwards grandson 11 b Starkwood Dorsetshire – was Stokes in 1851
James Edwards grandson 9 b Froam Somerset
Elizabeth Edwards granddaug 7 b Yetminster Dorset
Mary Jane Edwards granddaug 4 b Gileyzean?
William Henry Edwards grandson 2 b Harliton Marish?
At 14 Westford Rd. Wellington. Somerset
Registration district Wellington Sub-registration district: Wellington ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Household schedule number: 14
Piece: 1611 Folio: 53 Page Number: 3

1851 for Bedminster Somerset
John Edwards 30 b Taunton Somerset a labourer
Hannah wife 30 b Wellington Somerset
Maria daug 7 b same
Thomas son 3 b Stokes Somerset
At 18 Pager Court – Bedminster Somerset
Registration district: Bedminster Sub-registration district: Bedminster ED, institution, or vessel: 1d Household schedule number: 18
Piece: 1945 Folio: 125 Page Number: 5

James is a cook in 1871 at Barrett H Harries home in Kensington. and loose him after that when checking for birthplace Frome.

a John Edwards married ANNA Glass Sept qtr 1843 Wellington Vol 10 page 669
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Hello Val,

Thank you very much. It looks as though it now depends on finding a shipping record.

NSW Marriage 1553/1873 EDWARDS JAMES GEORGE - McKEOWN REBECCA - ST LEONARDS


Deaths
13115/1927 EDWARDS JAMES G - DAVID - ELIZA - CHATSWOOD
627/1932 EDWARDS REBECCA - WILLIAM H - HARRIET - CHATSWOOD


Are parents on death reg right or wrong? And was James born Frome in 1848?


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One tree has parents as David George EDWARDS & Eliza PYMBLE but no marriage given.

I can't find that marriage.


David died 1849 - place not given. No reg in England in 1849 for a David G or David George.

Eliza died 1902 NSW ??? Arrival or remarriage not given.

NSW Death 15828/1902 EDWARDS ELIZA - ROBERT - MARY - ST LEONARDS

EDWARDS Eliza Death notice 08NOV1902 Death 82 late of Gordon Sydney Morning Herald 12NOV1902
 

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Does not say he was from Somerset:

The Sydney Morning Herald - Thursday 13 March 1873 p.1
MARRIAGES
On the 15th February, by special license, at the Wesleyan Church, Willoughby, by the Rev. E. J. Rodd, Mr. JAMES GEORGE EDWARDS, teacher of the Public School, Lane Cove, to REBECCA, third daughter of W. H. McKEOWN, Esq., of Rosedale, Lane Cove.

The Sydney Morning Herald - Friday 15 January 1932 p.8
DEATHS
EDWARDS.-January 13, 1932 at her residence Springdale, Marion-street, Killara, Rebecca Edwards, widow of the late James George Edwards.
Privately interred January 14th, 1932, at Gordon.


The Sydney Morning Herald - Wednesday 12 November 1902 p.1
Deaths.
EDWARDS.-November 8, at her residence Glen Alyn, Gordon, Mrs. Eliza Edwards, aged 82 years.
 

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Thanks Val.

Just spent 3 hours searching TROVE but had not yet found the obit.

We can say the tree with his birth in Somerset in 1848 is wrong.

The Sydney Morning Herald - Saturday 2 July 1927 p.14
DEATHS
EDWARDS, July 1, 1927, at his residence Springdale, Marion-street, Killara, James George, beloved husband of Rebecca Edwards, in his 84th year.

The Sydney Morning Herald - Saturday 2 July 1927 p.13
FUNERALS
EDWARDS.-The Funeral of the late JAMES GEORGE EDWARDS will leave St. Martin's Church, Killara, THIS SATURDAY, after short service commencing at 3 p.m., for St. John's Church of England Cemetery, Gordon. Motor Funeral.
WOOD COFFILL LIMITED, Motor Funeral Directors.

CofE Gordon, NSW
James George EDWARDS Death: 1 July 1927

The Sydney Morning Herald - Friday 15 January 1932 p.8
DEATHS
EDWARDS.-January 13, 1932 at her residence Springdale, Marion-street, Killara, Rebecca Edwards, widow of the late James George Edwards.
Privately interred January 14th, 1932, at Gordon.

CofE Gordon, NSW
Rebecca EDWARDS Death: 18 January 1932 ?

Someone has read 18 for 13 or it's a typo.

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Hi Dave,
so who did this James G Edwards marry - in your family tree?

Going back to the beginning - BMD has birth for
James George Edwards 1848 Frome Sept qtr Vol 10 page 407 – also a death for one by this name Sept qtr 1848 Vol 10 page 245
James Alfred Edwards 1848 Frome Vol 10 page 430
Lots of deaths from 1849
There’s a George J Edwards age 26 departing London to arrive Sydney 28 July 1876 on ship “The Tweed” – 3rd Mate – has his Origin location Warwick UK.
Fair few James Edwards arriving on Victoria Assisted/Unassisted passenger list that could fit too.

SMH Sat 2 July 1927
MR. J. G. EDWARDS.
The death occurred yesterday at his residence, Springdale, Marion Street Killara, of Mr James George Edwards, a pioneer of the North shore line at the age of 84years. Mr Edwards was born in Tasmania, and came to Sydney when a child. He resided in the Gordon and Lane Cove districts during practically the whole of his lifetime, and played a prominent part in the development of the northern suburbs. Mr Edwards
"fathered" many of the small settlements along the Milson's Point-Hornsby railway line, and was a leading member of the committee of citizens whose work resulted In the building of the North Shore railway. He was the principal of the firm of J G Edwards and C0. estate agents, of Sydney
Mr Edwards was the originator of the Killara Golf Club and was president of the club for about eight years, He was the only life member of the club. He was also instrumentai In forming the Killara tennis courts
Mr. Edwards is survived by Mrs Edwards and three sons and four daughters The sons are Dr J G Edwards and Dr W A Edwards and Mr Arnold Edwards, and the daughters are Mrs F Jackson, Mrs S. J. Channon, and Misses F and I Edwards.
The funeral will leave St Martin's Church Killara, at 3 o'clock this afternoon and the internment will take place in St John's Church of England Cemetery,

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EDWARDS, DAVID

Gender: Male
Birth 1809 -
Marriage/Relationship: 1842 - LAUNCESTON,Tasmania ( PYMBLE, ELIZA ) [@]
Death:

FAMILY INFORMATION
Children:
115486 EDWARDS M 1843
115487 EDWARDS ELIZA 1845

Looks as though M = Male

A daughter is the one in my tree:

Birth 6191/1876 EDWARDS MARIAN ELIZA - JAMES GEORGE - REBECCA - ST LEONARDS

It would seem the tree was not totally wrong - had death for Eliza nee PYMBLE in 1902 in NSW.

Just had birth for James George as 1848 Somerset and not 1843 Tasmania.
 

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PYMBLE, ELIZA
Gender: Female
Birth 1820 -

Age at death in 1902 fits that.


One or two convicts?? Or none?

Title: David Edwards, one of 140 convicts transported on the Princess Charlotte, 03 July 1824.
Details: Sentence details: Convicted at Gloucester Assizes for a term of life.
Vessel: Princess Charlotte.
Date of Departure: 03 July 1824.
Place of Arrival: Van Diemen's Land.
Source: Australian Joint Copying Project. Microfilm Roll 88, Class and Piece Number HO11/5, Page Number 152


Be difficult for the following one to marry in 1842.

Title: David Edwards, one of 320 convicts transported on the Lord Lyndoch, 07 September 1840.
Details: Sentence details: Convicted at Cambridge Assizes for a term of 15 years on 23 March 1839.
Vessel: Lord Lyndoch.
Date of Departure: 07 September 1840.
Place of Arrival: Van Diemen's Land.
Source: Australian Joint Copying Project. Microfilm Roll 91, Class and Piece Number HO11/12, Page Number 211 (107)
 
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THE LATE MRS. EDWARDS. SMH – Mon 17 Nov 1902

A very old resident of the State, in the person of Mrs. Eliza Edwards, passed away peacefully at her late residence, Gordon, last week, at the advanced age of 82 years. Mrs Edwards was the third daughter of the late Mr Robert Pymble, who with members of his family came to New South Wales in the early days of settlement. With the exception of a few years spent in Sydney and Tasmania, the deceased resided in or near Gordon, and by her amenable disposition endeared herself to all with whom she came in contact. She leaves one son, Mr. Jas. G Edwards of Killara, and one daughter, Miss Edwards of Gordon. Her remains were followed to St John's Cemetery, Gordon, by a large number of friends and relations.

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The Daily News Wed 23 March 1904 – Marriages CHANNON – EDWARDS – December 19 at Sydney, S.J. Channon to M. Edwards.

SMH Sat 5 March 1904
CHANNON--EDWARDS -December 19, 1903, at the Gordon Methodist Church, by the Rev E. Rodd and J C. Hill, Stanley James, eldest son of James Channon, Hornsby to Marian, second daughter of J G Edwards, Killara.

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Edwards, David
Convict No: 21279
Extra Identifier:
SEE Surname:
SEE Given Names:
Voyage Ship: Princess Charlotte
Voyage No: 36
Arrival Date: 09 Nov 1824
Departure Date: 09 Jul 1824
Departure Port: Downs
Conduct Record: CON31/1/9 ** image 253 of 290
Muster Roll:
Appropriation List:
Other Records:
Indent:
Description List: CON23/1/1
Remarks:

Having a look at this one.

Oh, no ident record.
 
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Hi Dave - found him .. David Edwards - born Gloucestershire UK fits...

David Edward of “Princess Charlotte” got Ticket of Leave – showing on 1841 Convict Musters for Tassie.

Convicts Application to Marry
EDWARDS David - Princess Charlotte - PYMBLE Eliza free - 19 OCT 1841 CON52/1/2 p45 RGD37/2 : 1842/1354 – on http://portal.archives.tas.gov.au/menu.aspx?search=5

Now to find his death... Trees have 1849 but no place listed, possible in Tassie?
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Thanks Val.

I'm currently searching the 'Description List' but missed him first time through the Es.

I've gone back through the pages and can't find him.

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Thanks Val.

I'm currently searching the 'Description List' but missed him first time through the Es.

I've gone back through the pages and can't find him.

Dave
I have come to the conclusion he is listed on one of the two 'blank' = very faint pages.

No info re physical description or trade, etc...
 

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Thanks Val.

I had forgotten about that site. I had visited several times previously searching for one branch of the Perdriau family who lived in Killara.

Pymble is named after Robert Pymble (1776–1861), an influential early settler whose 1823 land grant comprised some 600 acres, around half the land of the region.
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