James Hardy b 1874 Marriage?

[juliejtp]

Outward Passenger List

Jas Hardy age 27
Mrs Hardy age 26
Mabel Hardy age 4

Departure date 28 Apr 1904
Port of departure Liverpool England
Destination Port Quebec Canada
Ship Bavarian
Shipping Line Allan Line
Master Angus McNicol

 

[Ladybird1300]

I saw that James Hardy in the 1911 census, but ruled him out because he was single and not a widower. I agree with Julie, looks like a different person

Amanda

 

[mikehardy]

Outward Passenger List

Jas Hardy age 27
Mrs Hardy age 26
Mabel Hardy age 4

Departure date 28 Apr 1904
Port of departure Liverpool England
Destination Port Quebec Canada
Ship Bavarian
Shipping Line Allan Line
Master Angus McNicol

Some discrepancy in age here Jas (James) Hardy should be 30? - Normal rounding down in those days?

Mike.

 

[juliejtp]

Hi Mike,

James age may be a bit out but Adas and Mabels look correct.

 

[mikehardy]

Hi Julie, looking for Mabel's birth info c1900. Is there a way of looking at the Canadian 1911 census FOC?

 

[horse]

James age may be a bit out but Adas and Mabels look correct.

Age issues are frequently contentious.. At long last I have found a record of the departure, same as the one Julie found except James' age = 28y

Geoff

 

[juliejtp]

Hi Mike,

Heres Mabels birth regisgration.

1900 - Apr/May/Jun - Aston
Mabel Gertrude Hardy

I dont have access to the Canadian 1910 census images.

 

[juliejtp]

Heres a link to the transcription.

 

[juliejtp]

Found the image here.

 

[horse]

1911 Transcription for Mabel G Hardy. [Julie has supplied the image from the same census]

NAME: Mabel G Hardy
GENDER: Female
MARITAL STATUS: Single
AGE: 11
BIRTH DATE: Apr 1900
BIRTHPLACE: England
RELATION TO HEAD OF HOUSE: Daughter
FATHER'S NAME: James Hardy
MOTHER'S NAME: Ida G Hardy
IMMIGRATION YEAR: 1904
TRIBAL: English
PROVINCE: Ontario
DISTRICT: Welland
DISTRICT NUMBER: 132
SUB-DISTRICT: Niagara Falls
SUB-DISTRICT NUMBER: 48
PLACE OF HABITATION: 52 Terrace

Geoff

 

[horse]

Not sure if this helps in any way, Mabel 1927..

Mabel Gertrude Hardy
Age: 27
Birth Country: England
Date of Arrival: 5 Dec 1927
Vessel: Empress of Asia
Port of Arrival: Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
Port of Departure: Manila, Philippines

Image shows b. Birmingham. Home = Canada..

 

[mikehardy]

Thanks Geoff, I have spent all day trying to find a death in Canada for James also for Mabel his daughter - so far no positive results on family Search.

I have posted on the 'Railway' forum re his employment with Canadian Pacific Railways.

Help please.

Mike.

 

[horse]

Hi Mike

I can't see James after 1916 or Mabel after 1927, having said that, there is is this in the same district as recorded in 1916

Mabel Hardy
OCCUPATION: Ekrfc
YEAR: 1940
LOCATION: Welland, Ontario, Canada
ELECTORAL DISTRICT: Welland

Image:

 

[horse]

That James is now retired in 1953, may suggest age is looking good... though his occ. in 1940 was a carman..

Mabel Hardy
OCCUPATION: Elltee Worker
YEAR: 1953
LOCATION: Niagara Falls, Ontario, Canada
ELECTORAL DISTRICT: Niagara Falls

 

[horse]

This could be him in 1935, the description at the top of the page mentions the railway, so he could still have a connection to them.. He is listed the bottom of the page on the left hand side, he is with Mrs J Hardy and Miss M Hardy.. I can't see this James after 1953.

 

[mikehardy]

Thanks Geoff,

It kooks as if James re-marries to Martha before 1940 and daughter Mabel still single living with the James household.

1953 James retired from the railway as a 'carman' (they refer railway carriages as cars) with daughter Mabel still single. Mabel must be 53 by then

Looks as if the James Hardy family in Canada die out sometime after 1953

There must be death certs for James and Mabel, how does one find these?

Mike.