James MARTIN

[DaveHam9]

Not sure if I have an error in my tree or not. The wrong death or the right death with a middle name and a marriage missing??

Marriage 1849 MARTIN James (b. ) - HYDE Bridget (b. ) Vic. #5409

James Martin
Spouse's Name: Bridget Hyde
Event Date: 17 Jun 1849
Event Place: St James Melbourne, Bourke, Vic.
Marital Status: Single
Spouse's Marital Status: Single

Death 1868 MARTIN Bridget 42 HYDE Unk Ellen WELSH b. Cork #2054

Death 1899 MARTIN Jas Geo 74 Jas Ann BAXTER d. Clifton Hill, Vic. #8975

The Argus (Melbourne, Vic.) - Sat 1 Jul 1899 p.5
DEATHS
MARTIN.-On the 30th June, at 213 M'Kean-street, N. Fitzroy, James George Martin, the beloved husband of Sarah Martin, aged 75 years.

Birth and death of son Samuel has father as just James. Birth reg for 5 other children also have just James.

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Death MARTIN Mary Alice EventDeath James Bridget (Unknown) Reg. year1868 Reg. no2055

Can't find a notice in Trove for Bridget or Mary Alice.

 

[horse]

May or may not be useful, Dave..

Find A Grave:
Mary Alice Martin
BIRTH 1868
DEATH Mar 1868 (aged less–than 1 year)
BURIAL
Creswick Cemetery
Creswick, Hepburn Shire, Victoria
PLOT R.C., Row 1, Grave 24
MEMORIAL ID 174685858 · View Source

Geoff

 

[horse]

Thomas' death has Geo. as middle name for father..

Thos Martin
Birth Year: abt 1852
Death Place: Ballarat, Victoria
Parents = Martin Jas Geo & Bridget Hyde
Registration Year: 1916
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration Number: 145

Geoff

 

[horse]

Trees have James b. 1824 Bristol, [parents = James & Elizabeth Ann Baxter] not validated.. There is this, age would fit with death in post #1..

James George Martin
Baptism Date: 23 Jan 1825
Place: St. James, Bristol, Gloucester
Parents = James Martin & Elizabeth

Geoff

EDIT:
May be worth noting this, but age 2/3y out.

James Martin
Baptism Date: 1 Dec 1822
Place: St Philip and St Jacob's, Bristol, Gloucester
Parents = James Martin & Elisabeth

 

[horse]

Emily Campbell
Age: 65
Death Place: Campbellfield, Victoria
Parents = Jas Geo Martin & Brgt Hyde
Registration Year: 1925
Place: Victoria
Registration Number: 4656

Does look as though he was James George..

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

Right death then with a second marriage to be found.

MARTIN James EventMarriage LORRAIN Sarah Agnes Little Reg. year1876 Reg. no2089

MARTIN James George EventMarriage GARTH Sarah Jane Reg. year1881 Reg. no2518

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Deaths
MARTIN Sarah Agnes EventDeath 56 Lorraine Andw Isabella (Fraitor) Reg. year1910 Reg. no4541 d. Campbells Ck

MARTIN Sarah Jane EventDeath 82 MARTIN Garth Wm Sarah Jane (Coates) Reg. year1925 Reg. no14044 d. Kew


'martin AND 'sarah agnes' 1910 no hits in Trove.

 

[horse]

A couple of trees also have this...

James Martin
Spouse : Maria Briggs
Marriage Place: Victoria
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration Year: 1871
Registration Number: 3348

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

Did he marry 3 times?

Death notice has wife as Sarah.

Dave

 

[horse]

Not too sure of the Briggs marriage, one tree has her as Janet 1868

No obvious offspring for Martin/Briggs..

Geoff

 

[horse]

Did he marry 3 times?

Death notice has wife as Sarah.

Yeah, that one seems legit enough..

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

This one is ruled out.

MARTIN—LORRAIN - On the 17th Aprii, at the re
sidenco of the bride's father. Saiytho^dulo, by the
Kov. Mark Dixon, James, sixth son of Lewis Martin,
Esq., formerly of Kirkbane, Scotland, to Sarah Agnes,
youngest daughter of Andrew Lorrain, Esq.

 

[horse]

Need to go now, Dave. Speak later.

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Ok, thanks Geoff.

https://victoriancollections.net.au/items/4f72bb6697f83e03086060d0

No name for the new Mrs Martin.

J.G.M. moved to Ballarat - attended Dawson Street Baptist Church. Here he married a widow with 2 sons, Mrs ____. Her 2 sons were born, George and Charles ...

I can't find the right ones as Briggs or Garth or ...

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

I can't find a death for a Sarah Martin after 1899 that fits.

Marriages on Vic. index do not have place of marriage so can't search for a Ballarat one.

Remarried after 1868 - once or twice ??

If Maria Briggs and then a Sarah where is the death for Maria?

BRIGGS William Henry EventMarriage BOOTH Maria Reg. year1872 Reg. no1351

BRIGGS Christopher Thomas EventMarriage HOUGHTON Maria Reg. year1878 Reg. no2547

The marriages also seem too late.

BRIGGS George Edwin EventBirth Father's name Christopher Th - Maria (Houghton) Reg. year1884 Reg. no6218

No son Charles with same parents so they are ruled out.

 

[DaveHam9]

No births in Vic. index for a George or Charles Garth with mother = Sarah.

 

[Bootzy]

Possible..
Name: Biddy Hyde
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Age: 15
Arrival date: 4 Oct 1841
Arrival Port: Port Phillip Bay, Australia
Departure Port: Cork
Ship: Emmons
Nationality: Irish
There is also a Betty Hyde age 16 from Cork with her..

Bridget Martin died March 1868 from childbirth – baby was
Name Mary Alice Martin
Birth Date Abt 1868
Birth Place Mount Prospect, Victoria
Registration Year 1868
Registration Place Victoria, Australia
Father James Martin
Mother Briget Nyde
Registration Number 4524
Lived for 2 weeks after Mother’s death (off Anc.. tree)

Name Mary Alice Martin
Birth Year abt 1867
Age 2 Months
Death Place Victoria
Father's Name James
Mother's Name Briget Unknown
Registration Year 1868
Registration Place Victoria
Registration Number 2055

James George & Bridget Martin nee Hyde’s children

William Edwin Martin 1850 – 1939 – married 1887 Vic to Mary Grace Palmer

Thomas Martin 1851 – 3 Jan 1916 Ballarat – married 1877 Vic to Jane Ellen Body

Elizabeth Martin 1853 – 22 Feb 1934 Vic – married 1880 Vic to James Thomas Allchin

Edgar Martin 1855 – 11 June 1946 Ballarat – age 91 (ex super of Police )- married 1882 Vic to Susan Newman

Ellen Martin 1857 – 1919 – never married – parents correct on BMD

Emily Martin 1859 – 1925 – married 1889 Vic to Cosby Stafford Campbell

Robert Martin 1863 – 1929 – married 1883 Vic to Edith Florence Chambers

Mary Alice Martin 1868 – 1868 Vic.

Child with 2nd wife – Sarah Jane Garth
Name Vida Millicent G Martin
Birth Date Abt 1884
Birth Place Carlton, Victoria
Registration Year 1884
Registration Place Victoria, Australia
Father James Martin
Mother Sarah Jane Garth
Registration Number 15316

Name James George Martin
Spouse Name Sarah Jane Garth
Marriage Place Victoria
Registration Place Victoria
Registration Year 1881
Registration Number 2518

Name Vida Garth Lenox - On Findagrave
Birth Date 1884
Death Date 25 Jun 1956
Cemetery French's Forest Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place Davidson, Northern Beaches Council, New South Wales, Australia
Has Bio? N

The Argus – Sat 2 Jan 1926
MARTIN (Lenox)- On the 29th December, 1925 (suddenly), at her daughter's residence, Adeney avenue, Kew, Sarah Jane Martin, dearly loved mother of Vida Lenox and dear grandmother Miriam. A colonist of 80 years

Info for Sarah Jane Garth
Name: Sarah Jane Garth
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 1 Aug 1843
Baptism Date: 20 Aug 1843
Baptism Place: St Mary,Rotherhithe,London,England
Father: William Garth (painter & glazier )
Mother: Sarah Jane nee Coates
FHL Film Number: 254548, 254549

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Val.

MARTIN Sarah Jane EventDeath 82 MARTIN Garth Wm Sarah Jane (Coates) Reg. year1925 Reg. no14044 d. Kew

I did wonder if that was the right one with an error. I had not found the death notice.


Sons George and Charles ??

No births in Vic. as Garth with mother = Sarah.

There is a Garth family with Edward and Sarah Emily Jane (Robertson).

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Ok, I'm lost for the moment.

If Sarah Jane was born Garth and married in Ballarat as Garth and a widow with sons George and Charles then ...

MARTIN James George EventMarriage GARTH Sarah Jane Reg. year1881 Reg. no2518