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James NEWBERY

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Note - The name is NEWBERY but records also have Newberry and Newbury.

Baptism - James Newberry - 10 Aug 1787 - Parish St. Mary Hampton - Born July 18th [father = John]

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Marriages Sep Qtr 1842
NEWBERY James St Jas Westr 1 97
ROLFE Sarah St Jas Westr 1 97

I would think James was a widower but so far no image has been found.

1851
HO107 Piece 1604 Folio 233 Page ?
Civil Parish: Hampton
County: Middlesex
Registration District: Kingston
ED:
Address:
James Newbery Head Mar 69 Holder of Cottage property Hampton Middlesex
Sarah Newbery Wife Mar 35 Hanworth Middlesex
James Newbery son 7 Hampton Middlesex
Barbara Newbery dau 5 Hampton Middlesex
Sarah Newbery dau 3 Hampton Middlesex

Deaths Dec Qtr 1860
Newbery James Kingston 2a 125

I expected to find a Probate record. A wealthy man with a lot of property (details from his father's Will).
 
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Marriages Sep Qtr 1867
McGREGOR Malcolm Montagu Pancras 1b 81
NEWBERY Sarah Jane Pancras 1b 81

1901
RG13 Piece 1187 Folio 120 Page 25
Civil Parish: Twickenham
Eccl. parish: St. Mary
County: Middlesex
Registration District: Brentford
Sub-RD: Twickenham
ED: 5
Address: 2 Kinfauns Villas, Whitton Rd
Jane McGregor Head Widow 48 Living on Own Means Hampton Middlesex
Edith McGregor Dau 26 Hampton Middlesex
Sarah Newbury Mother Widow 80 Hampton Middlesex
A Hitchen Kemp Visitor S 23 Incorporated Accountant St John Margate Kent
William H Kemp Boarder S 25 Asst. Surveyor St John Margate Kent

If this is the right death then it's the only record found showing a middle name. Other census have born Hanworth mddx.

Deaths Sep Qtr 1901
Newbery Sarah Jane 82 Brentford 3a 57

Again I can't see a Probate record.

I can't prove the 1842 marriage is the right one.

Also, there should be at least one earlier marriage for James. The family were of Hampton Court. Unlikely to be the right James as the one below made his mark.

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
Name: James Newbery
Spouse Name: Sarah Wade
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 20 May 1821
Parish: St Marylebone
County: Middlesex
Borough: Westminster
 

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Barbara Debora b. 10 Sep 1845 c. 5 Dec 1845 Kingston Upon Thames, Surrey
James NEWBERY & Sarah ...
Batch: C015492

Kingston Upon Thames is in Surrey and Hampton (St. Mary) is across the river in Middx. Some of the census get that mixed up.
 
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Thanks Emeltee.

I have nothing in my tree for James in 1841 so that's a possible.

I have lots of queries re this family and many of them will probably remain mysteries but this time around I hope we can solve some of them.


James is the uncle of the one who ended up in Australia so I'm not spending $10 on a .pdf of the 1842 marriage.

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According to his baptism parents were John and Sarah

FreeReg2 has the following marriage

John Newbery/Sarah Newington Hampton St Mary the Virgin by License 30th April 1782

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James Newberry
Spouse's Name Sarah Hoole
Event Date 19 Nov 1838 St Martin In The Fields Westminster
Batch: M001454

James Newberry
Spouse's Name Anne Gleave
Event Date 11 Aug 1822 St. Anne's Westminster

James Newbury
Spouse's Name Sophia Higgs
Event Date 01 Nov 1824 St James Westminster
 

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County Middlesex
Place St George Hanover Square
Church name St George Hanover Square
Register type Transcript
Register entry number 159
Marriage date 09 Apr 1818
Groom forename James
Groom surname NEWBERY
Bride forename Frances
Bride surname STONE
 

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The marriage to Frances Stone looks promising seeing as the1841 Census had a 9 yr old Catherine Stone living with James, although I don't have a clue as to what the connection is.

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Thanks Emeltee.

I hope some images can be found to rule out some of the marriages I posted.

County Kent
Place Frindsbury
Church All Saints Pr
RegisterNumber
DateOfBirth
BaptismDate 14 Sep 1755
Forename Sarah Hewington
*** F
FatherForename Robt.
MotherForename Elizbth.
FatherSurname GILES
MotherSurname
Abode
FatherOccupation
Notes
FileNumber 849


Name: John Newbery
Record Type: Burial
Event Date: 2 Nov 1832
Age: 80
Death Date: 2 Nov 1832
Parish: St. Mary, Hampton
Borough: Richmond Upon Thames
County: Surrey [Middlesex]
Abode: Hampton Court

Sarah Newbery
Burial Date: 8 Mar 1795
Parish: St. Mary, Hampton
County: Middlesex
Borough: Richmond upon Thames
Record Type: Burial
Register Type: Parish Register

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Found nothing yet that helps re Catherine Stone.

Description Will of John Newbery, late Maltster and Corn and Coal Merchant of Hampton, Middlesex
Date 22 November 1832
Catalogue reference PROB 11/1808

John Newbery left the land and premises on the western end of the property on the north of the Green to his wife, Sarah. After her death, it was to be passed on to his two unmarried daughters, Mary and Barbara. The property on the east side, a “newly erected tenement…with the yard, garden, coach house, stables, outbuildings and offices”, he left to his daughter, Sarah Bachelor Swalling, and granddaughter, Mary Anne Kensett Slade.

Three other properties were given to his remaining three children. He left a Tenement and Malthouse across the river, at Kingston upon Thames in the county of Surrey, to his oldest son, Thomas Newington Newbery (the ancestor of Elizabeth).

John Newbery had built five cottages on land in the Hampton parish known as “Four Hills”; he left this land, with its “cottages, outbuildings, offices and yard gardens” to his son, James Newbery.
He left another Malthouse, outbuilding and yards “in the hamlet of Hampton Court” to his daughter, Deborah.

The will of John Newbery (signed on 12 October 1832) establishes that he was an exceptionally wealthy man for his time.
 
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Is this what you are after ?

Name: Sarah Jane Newbery
Spouse: Malcolm Montagu McGregor
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 3 Jul 1867
Parish: Parish Chapel, St Pancras
Borough: Camden
Father Name: James Newbery
Spouse Father: Richard Harrington Granville Mcgregor
Register Type: Parish Register

3 July 1867 St James Church in Parish of St Pancras Middlesex
Malcolm Montague McGregor full age Batchelor – a com traveller at Clarendon Square – father Richard Harrington Granville McGregor a Surgeon to Sarah Jane Newbery Looks like minor ? spinster of Albany St – father James Newbery deceased – both signed & witnessed James John Newbery + another ? ? Newbery and a Sarah Newbery
 

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on Malcolm's Father..
Wills – Richard Harrington Granville McGregor 26 June 1872 – The Will with 2 Codicils of Richard Harrington Granville McGregor late of Laburnam Villa Sansome Walk in the city of Worchester, Surgeon Dentist who died 15 May 1872 by Wiiliam Wallace Gabriel of 43 Lincoln’s-Inn-Fields in the County of Middlesex Gentleman one of the Executors – Effects under 2,000 pounds (age 53)

1871 census has: at Chemist Walk ? – Claines Worchester.
Richard H G McGregor Widow 52 b Scotland – Surgeon Dentist with 2 visitors Rosa age 30 married and Ellen Shelswell age 12 from Worchester.

1861 Richard (married) was a lodger at William & Rosa Shelwell’s place at 96 Bransford Rd St Johns Worcester.

1851 has:
Richard 33 b Scotland – Surgeon Dentist
Henrietta wife 26 b London
Malcolm son 8 b
Clare Price sister single 23 b London
Gen servant E Wicklow Ireland

C of E Marriages & Banns
Richard Harrington Granville MacGregor of this Parish Batchelor and Henrietta Ann Price of this Parish Spinster were married by Licence this day 19 April 1832 – both signed – Parish of St Pancras Middlesex.

I wonder why Richard is listed as a Widow on 1871 census when wife Henrietta didn’t die till 18 Dec 1878…

Probate & Wills 3 Jan 1879 – Administration of the Personal Estate of Henrietta Anne McGregor late of 69 Patshull rd Camden road in the County f Middlesex, Widow who died 18 December 1878 at 62 Patshull road was granted at the Principal Registry to Malcolm Montagu McGregor in the said County Commercial Traveller the Son and only next of Kin. Effects under 100 pounds.

1861 Henrietta is with her father at 17 Ladbrook Villas – St Mary Abbott St Johns Kensington
Nehemiah S Price age 80 b Ireland – he died and was buried 6 Dec 1867 at All Souls Kensal Green London.
 

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1851 census
James Newbery 69 b Hampton Middlesex – holder of Cottage victualy (Liq Lic ?)
Sarah wife 35 b Hanworth Middlesex
James Newbery son 7 b Hampton Middlesex
Barbara daug 5 b same
Sarah daug 3 b same

1891 census for Sarah Newbery – 8 Benedict rd Lambeth – Stockwell – London
Sarah J McGregor widow 45 b Hampton Middlesex living on own means
Montagu James son single 22 b same – died 27 Sept 1919 Aldershot Rushmoor Borough Hampshire
Edith E daug single 19b same
Sarah Newbery Mother widow 72 b same - living on own means
Barbara Deborah Newbery sister single 42 b Surbiton Surrey – died age 49 & buried 22 Sept 1894 St Mary Hampton.
Clara Heath a boarder.

On Montagu James McGregor
Name: Montagu James McGregor
Gender: Male
Birth Date: abt 1876
Enlistment Age: 39
Marriage Date: 7 Dec 1907
Marriage Place: Kensington Middlesex
Document Year: 1915
Residence Place: 10 Gladstone Road, Boscombe
Regimental Number: 065104
Regiment Name: Army Service Corps
Number of Images: 17
Form Title: Short Service Attestation
Other Records: Search for 'Montagu James McGregor' in other WWI collections
Family Members:
Name Relation to Soldier
Montagu James McGregor Self (Head)
Harriett McGregor Spouse
Florence Muriel McGregor Child

Marriage
Name: Montagu James McGregor
Estimated birth year: abt 1869
Age: 32
Spouse: Harriett Howkins
Spouse Age: 32
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 7 Dec 1901
Parish: St Philip, Kensington
Borough: Kensington and Chelsea
Father Name: Malcolm McGregor
Spouse Father: Charles Howkins
Register Type: Parish Register

Montagu James McGregor baptised 22 Dec 1871 St James Hampton Hill to Malcolm Montagu McGregor & Sarah Jane McGregor

1901 St Mary Middlesex – Reg District Brentford Twickenham – ED 05, Piece 1187, Folio 120, Page 25, h/h schedule 148
Sarah Jane is now just Jane McGregor widow 48 b Hampton living on own means
Edith daug single 26 with Sarah Newbury Mother widow 80, A Hitchen Kemp visitor and William H Kemp boarder

why is Sarah saying she's a widow in 1891 when Malcolm didn't die till 11 April 1921 and on 1911 census has him as Married.. where is Sarah Jane in 1911 - did she remarry ??

Malcolm Montagu McGregor – Probate & Will
McGregor Malcolm Montague of The Firs High Beech Waltham Holy Cross Essex died 11 April 1921 Administration with Will London 8 July to Agnes Cullen Spinster – Effects 165 pounds - (I suspect this is his hkeeper Agnes Pullen on 1911 census with him..) Divorced from Sarah ?

1911 Malcolm age 68 Married 40 years 4 children 3 living 1 dec a Wine & Spirit Rep b Ireland with Agnes Pullen single age 31 housekeeper b Horsham Sussex and Jane Pullen visitor 42 single a bookkeeper b same – The Firs High Beech Essex.
 
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ok now I'm confused...

1881 St Johns West Hackney.. 65 London road
Malcolm M McGregor 38 m b Ireland – Traveller (Wines)
Sarah E wife 38 b St Pancras Middlesex
Frances son 5 b same
Walter M son 2 b same
Sydney son 8mths b same

1891 Theydon Bois Epping Essex – looks like Forest Side Villa
Malcom M McGregor m 48 b Ireland Rep for Wine & Spirit Merchant
Sarah E wife 46 b Regents Park London
Frances M son 15 b Barnsbury London
Walter M son 12 b same
Sydney son 10 b same
Ethel daug 8 b Clapton London
Martha R Strange dom servant 19 b Essex

Cannot find Malcolm on 1901

but on 1911 - 1911 Malcolm age 68 Married [/B]40 years 4 children, 3 living and 1 dec a Wine & Spirit Rep b Ireland with Agnes Pullen single age 31 housekeeper b Horsham Sussex and Jane Pullen visitor 42 single a bookkeeper b same – The Firs High Beech Essex.

and why Sarah as Sarah E and not Sarah J who has her Mother living with her in 1891 !!!
 

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He was a widower, Dave.. details sent.

Geoff
Thanks Geoff.

I suspected that. It's also possible that was his third marriage. I'm fishing by trying to go through all the possible marriages eliminating all that show James signed by his mark as that would not be my James.

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Name: Sarah Jane Newbery
Spouse: Malcolm Montagu McGregor
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 3 Jul 1867
Parish: Parish Chapel, St Pancras
Borough: Camden
Father Name: James Newbery
Spouse Father: Richard Harrington Granville Mcgregor
Register Type: Parish Register

3 July 1867 St James Church in Parish of St Pancras Middlesex
Malcolm Montague McGregor full age Batchelor – a com traveller at Clarendon Square – father Richard Harrington Granville McGregor a Surgeon to Sarah Jane Newbery Looks like minor ? spinster of Albany St – father James Newbery deceased – both signed & witnessed James John Newbery + another ? ? Newbery and a Sarah Newbery
Thanks Val.

Other possible witnesses names - Barbara Deborah (named after 2 aunts) and Edith Eliza.

holder of Cottage victualy (Liq Lic ?) = holder of Cottage property


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ok now I'm confused...
me too.


children, 3 living and 1 dec

Frances, Walter, Sydney, Ethel

1871
RG10 Piece 865 Folio 42 Page 25
Civil Parish: Hampton
Eccl. parish: St. Mary
County: Middlesex
Registration District: Kingston
Sub-RD: Hampton
ED: 2
No of Schedule:
Address:
Malcom McGregor Head Mar 28 Com Traveller Ireland Wicklow
Sarah Jane McGregor Wife Mar 23 Hampton Middlesex
Montague James McGregor son 2 Hampton Middlesex


Sarah J is listed as married in 1881.

Has to be the same Malcolm M a com traveller born Ireland. So a new wife (can't see the marriage) Sarah E and a new family of 4 children.


A death for Sarah J/Jane McGregor (b. 1847) after 1901 ?

I'm finding this site very slow.

Dave
 
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