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James POACHER remarriage ?

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QLD Marriage 28 Jun 1888/C01501 Poacher James - Andersen Amelia Laurance Annie

1937 NSW Electoral Roll - Robertson - Gosford
POACHER James, Berith street, Ocean Beach, coppersmith
POACHER Amelia, Berith street, Ocean Beach, home duties

Death 26930/1938 POACHER AMELIA ANNE LAURENCE - MARTIN - ANNA KATHERINE - BURWOOD

1943 QLD Electoral Roll - Wide Bay - Maryborough
POACHER James, 190 John st., coppersmith
POACHER Elizabeth Paulina, 190 John st., home duties

1949 NSW Electoral Roll - Robertson - Woy Woy
POACHER James, Ocean Beach, Umina, coppersmith

Death 17990/1950 POACHER JAMES GEORGE ELIZA REDFERN * 7 Aug

QLD Death 1956 /C05460 Elizabeth Paulina Poacher - Carl Lederle - Agabister Miszner ** late Zwisler


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re his 2nd wife's parents..

Agabista Mesner 1st married a Carl Ludwig Zwisler by 1868 (birth of son Carl), hubby died of sunstroke - on trove Maryborough Chronical 22 Jan 1874. and a bit of family dispute over his land - Brisbane Courier 25 Feb 1895. - ame of Deceased Proprietor-Carl Ludwig
Zwiszler (otherwise Carl Ludwig Zwezzler), late
of Maryborough labourer
Date of Death -28th December, 1878.

her 2nd marriage:
Name: Agabista Zwizler
Spouse Name: Carl Lederle
Marriage Date: 05 Aug 1874
Marriage Place: Queensland
Registration Place: Queensland
Registration Year: 1874
Registration Number: 000456
Page Number: 16468

and her death.
Name: Agabista Lederle
Death Date: 26 Jul 1923
Death Place: Queensland
Registration Year: 1923
Registration Place: Queensland
Registration Number: 002671
Page Number: 928

death of 2nd hubby
DEATH.
LEDERLE.— On the 31st January, 1922, at the residence of his daughter, Mrs. E. P. Horne, Cheapside street, Maryborough, Carl, beloved husband of Agabista Lederle (Imbil), aged 76 years and 3 months. R.I.P.
FUNERAL NOTICE. ;
THE Friends, Relatives and Family arc kindly invited to attend the Funerial of the late Carl Lederle. to move from the rcsidcnce of his daughter, Mrs. E. P. Home, Cheapside street, off Ellena street, at 3:30 o'clock, This (Wednesday) Afternoon, for the Maryborough Cemetery.

Elizabeth's birth and siblings:
1875 C2375 Elizabeth Paulina Lederle Carl Agabister Miszner
1879 C4184 Bertha Lederle Carl Agabister Miszner
878 C3614 Wilhelm Lederle Carl Agabister Miszner

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The Sydney Morning Herald (NSW : 1842 - 1954)
Monday 24 October 1938
POACHER.—October 22, 1938, at a private hospital, Strathfield, Amelia Ann Laurence, beloved wife of James Poacher, of Woy Woy, formerly of Croydon Park, and loving mother of Florence (Mrs. R. G. Evans), Edward, and Herbert, aged 72 years.
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POACHER Elizabeth Pauline Death notice 11NOV1956 Death 81 late of Maryborough Fraser Coast Chronicle (Hervey Bay) 12NOV1956

Maryborough cemetery
Last Name Poacher
Other Names Elizabeth Paulina
Gender Female
Age 81
Date of Birth
Date of Death 1956
Date of Burial 12/11/1956
Division A
Section Monumental A
Plot/Niche 574
http://www.frasercoast.qld.gov.au/cemeteries-online
 

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Ryerson index

POACHER James Death notice 07AUG1950 Death late of Ocean Beach, Woy Woy Sydney Morning Herald 10AUG1950

Maybe the Ryerson notices might help.

I cant find the notices in Trove.
 

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arrival..
Name: Ludwig Zwissler
Departure Date: 22 Apr 1865
Birth Date: abt 1837
Age: 28
Gender: männlich (Male)
Residence: Unteraltenbuch, Bayern (Bavaria)
Occupation: Arbeiter
Ship Name: Sophie
Captain: Wendt, H. W.
Shipping Clerk: Dieseldorff & Co.
Shipping line: Joh. Ces. Godeffroy & Sohn
Accommodation: ohne Angabe
Ship Flag: Deutschland
Port of Departure: Hamburg
Port of Arrival: Queensland; Australien (Australia)
Volume: 373-7 I, VIII A 1 Band 019
Household Members:
Name Age
Ludwig Zwissler 28
Agapista Zwissler 25

and a birth in Qld..
1865 M364 Wilhelm August Zwissler Carl Ludwig - Agapisla Messner

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death of Elizabeth Pauline's brother William - Maryborough Chronical - Wed 29 Nov 1916 mention family/siblings

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/152560889?searchTerm=lederle&searchLimits=

Elizabeth married in Qld 1st to:
1897 C1453 Ambrose Horne & Elizabeth Pauline Lederle
Ambrose died 1934 - http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/152005713?searchTerm=ambrose horne&searchLimits=
and also a son Arnold Ambrose Horne in 1926
their children:
1897 C12234 Lawrence Wilfred Horne Ambrose Elizabeth Pauline Lederle
1899 C7551 Olive Maud Horne Ambrose Elizabeth Paulina Lederle
1902 C8073 Elsie Marion Horne Ambrose Elizabeth Paulina Lederle
1904 C8124 Arnold Ambrose Horne Ambrose Elizabeth Paulina Lederle

her 2nd marriage
1940 C5273 James Poacher & Elizabeth Paulina Horne

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Thanks Val.

I'm assuming because of the occupation it is the same James.

Elizabeth Paulina Poacher 1949 Queensland Wide Bay
Elizabeth Paulina Poacher 1954 Queensland Wide Bay

They do not seem to be together in 1949.

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POACHER James Death notice 07AUG1950 Death late of Ocean Beach, Woy Woy Sydney Morning Herald 10AUG1950

Maybe the Ryerson notices might help.

I cant find the notices in Trove.
The Sydney Morning Herald - Thursday 10 August 1950 p.22
DEATHS
POACHER James. -August 7, 1950, late of Ocean Beach, Woy Woy, dear father of Florence (Mrs. R. G. Evans, Croydon), May (Mrs. S. Clifton, deceased), Ted (Brisbane), and Herb (Guildford). At rest. Privately interred Wednesday, August 9, 1950, at the Methodist Cemetety, Rookwood.
 

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James was possibly in Wide Bay in 1925.

Can't see a birth for James in Qld. index.

The Sydney Morning Herald - Monday 24 October 1938 p.9
FUNERALS
POACHER.-The Relatives and Friends of Mr. JAMES POACHER, of Woy Woy, formerly of Croydon Park, and of Mr. and Mrs. E. POACHER (Queensland), are invited to attend the Funeral of their beloved WIFE and MOTHER, Amelia A. L., which will leave Medcalf's Funeral Chapel, 172 Redfern Street, Redfern, THIS AFTERNOON, at 2.30, for the Methodist Cemetery, Rookwood, Section 2.
JOSEPH MEDCALF. A.F.D.A., 172 Redfern Street, Redfern.

1895/C08592 Poacher Edward James - James - Amelia Laurance Annie Andersen
 

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POACHER Ann 2 Tim Whiffler 16 Jun 1875 929 18477 Z1958 M1698
POACHER Daniel Inf Tim Whiffler 16 Jun 1875 929 18477 Z1958 M1698
POACHER Eliza 34 Tim Whiffler 16 Jun 1875 929 18477 Z1958 M1698
POACHER Elizabeth 6 Tim Whiffler 16 Jun 1875 929 18477 Z1958 M1698
POACHER George 34 Tim Whiffler 16 Jun 1875 929 18477 Z1958 M1698
POACHER James 9 Tim Whiffler 16 Jun 1875 929 18477 Z1958 M1698
POACHER John 11 Tim Whiffler 16 Jun 1875 929 18477 Z1958 M1698
POACHER Louisa 10 Tim Whiffler 16 Jun 1875 929 18477 Z1958 M1698
POACHER William 7 Tim Whiffler 16 Jun 1875 929 18477 Z1958 M1698

Age at death points to abt 1867.

Births Dec Qtr 1866
Poacher James Plomesgate 4a 647

Marriages Sep Qtr 1861
DICHINSON Jane Plomesgate 4a 887
DICKINSON Jane Plomesgate 4a 887
POCHER George Plomesgate 4a 887
TAYLOR Eliza Plomesgate 4a 887
VALE George Plomesgate 4a 887
 
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Death 1924/C02970 Poacher Eliza William Taylor - * born England aged 84 years

Death 1926/B50013 Poacher George - Robert Poacher - Sophy Battle

I had better stop. I'm way out on a limb. :)
 

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children of James & Amelia Poacher nee Anderson.

1889 C7670 Florence Esther Poacher James Amelia Laurance Annie Andersen, she married Raymond G Evans in 1913 Canterbury NSW

13424/1891 POACHER MURIEL May JAMES AMELIA L A GLEBE - she married Stephen H Clifton in 1913 Canterbury NSW - she died in 1919 Burwood NSW

1895 C8592 Edward James Poacher James Amelia Laurance Annie Andersen - married Matilda Brandt in 1923 Qld - he died 1976 Qld.

1902 C8015 Arthur Herbert Poacher James Amelia Laurance Annie Andersen - married 1937 Annandale NSW to Lucy Mavis Barker and he died 1972 Hornsby NSW

so the E Poacher in Qld on James's death notice is son Edward b 1895.

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about James..
A tree seems to point to James as being born UK to George & Eliza Poacher nee Taylor.
1871 UK census has him 4 yrs old b Little Glemham Suffolk.
Maryborough Qld Immigrants has:
Surname: Poacher
Given: James
Age: 9
Ship/Year: Tim Whiffler 1875

death of his Mother Eliza Poacher nee Taylor - Maryborough Chronicle Thursday 1 1 Sept 1924
A well-known and 'respected resident of Maryborough In the person of Mrs, Eliza Poacher, aged 34 years, passed away at her residence, Roseneath street, yesterday. The deceased was born in Suffolk (England) and came out to Queensland In the ship Timwiffler, on June l6th, 1875, landing at Maryborough. She leaves a husband, Mr. George Poacher, and grown-upp family of four sons and four daughters, namely, Messrs. James(Sydney), William and Henry (Brisbane), Daniel (Maryborough), Annie(Brisbane), Mesdames . S Britton (Sydney), W. Vosey (Brisbane), and F.Slater (Maryborough). The funeral will take place from her late residence, Roseneath street, off Tooley street, at 8.30 o'clock this afternoon for the Maryborough. Cemetery and will be of a private nature.

another paper has her age as 84 yrs...

1924 C2970 Eliza Poacher William Taylor - ** born England aged 84 years.

Father George Poacher died 1926 Qld
1926 B50013 George Poacher Robert Poacher Sophy Battle

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