James PROWSE

[DaveHam9]

1851
Piece: HO107/1918 Place: Penzance -Cornwall ED: 2b
Civil Parish: Gulval Ecclesiastical Parish: -
Folio: 389 Page: 2 Schedule: 8
Address: New Mill
Surname First name(s) Rel Status *** Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
PROWSE William Head M 53 Wheelwright Cornwall - Gulval
PROWSE Honor Wife M 45 Wheelwrights Wife (Crossed Out) Cornwall - Gulval
PROWSE John Son 17 Miner Cornwall - Gulval
PROWSE James Son 14 Miner Cornwall - Gulval
PROWSE Ann Dau 11 Scholar Cornwall - Gulval
PROWSE Richard Son 9 Cornwall - Gulval



Marriage 3202/1864 PROWSE JAMES - WILEY MARY ANN - TUMUT * 6 Apr

Looking for details on Mary Ann and arrival for James.

Thanks,

Dave

 

[horse]

Tree on FS may be of use, Dave..

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

1861
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M78G-XXQ

No James.

 

[horse]

Not seeing an arrival yet?

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

Prouse in some records.

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Marriage 17853/1925 PROWSE HAROLD S - DERRICK SYLVIA E - ADELONG * 25 Nov

Death 11828/1985 PROWSE SYLVIA EMILY - JAMES RICHARD - ESTHER * 29 Apr

Age 85.

Birth DERRICK SYLVIA E 748/1900 JAMES R - ESTHER - ADELONG

 

[horse]

Find A Grave has a link to Mary Ann.

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Marriage 7081/1893 DERRICK JAMES R - WHITICKER ESTHER - WAGGA WAGGA

 

[LynPB]

Hi James is my great-great grandfather. I understand there is no exact record of when he left home or arrived in Australia but according to a book on the family history "In 'Men of Mark, 1788-1888': there is the following reference to James: 'he arrived in Melbourne in 1857, visited Adelaide, and then returning to Victoria occupied himself with gold mining for some time. He then left for Adelong'.". All indications point to him arriving in 1857 with his brother John. Wherever he landed he joined the rush to Kiandra in late 1859 or early 1860. After a bad year in 1860 he moved to Adelong, and he and brothers John and Richard staked claims in Adelong and became shareholders in the Prowse and Woodward Mine, one of the best on the Old Reef Line. James purchased five blocks of land along the Adelong Creek and built Jessamine (later Jasmine) Cottage on one and established an income generating orchard with seeds imported from California. He married my great-great grandmother Mary Ann Wiley at Jessamine Cottage on 6 April 1864. Mary Ann had apparently arrived in the district in 1862 at the invitation of her uncle Irvine Crain and was 20 when she married James. She was apparently (according to the Tumult & Adelong Times) "born in Enniskillen, County of Fermanagh in Northern Ireland, 30 January 1844, daughter of Joseph Wiley and Mary Ann Crain" with the Wileys originally believed to have come from Scotland.

This is as much as I have on Mary Ann given the history is a Prowse history. I've attached James and Mary Ann's headstone at Adelong Cemetery for what use it may be to you

 

[LynPB]

Marriage 17853/1925 PROWSE HAROLD S - DERRICK SYLVIA E - ADELONG * 25 Nov

Death 11828/1985 PROWSE SYLVIA EMILY - JAMES RICHARD - ESTHER * 29 Apr

Age 85.

Birth DERRICK SYLVIA E 748/1900 JAMES R - ESTHER - ADELONG

And this is actually my grandfather (who I never met) and my grandmother Sylvia.

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello and welcome to the Forum.

Thank you for the details and the photo of the headstone.

This is a side branch of my large tree.

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

James born abt 1837.

Unassisted to Vic.
Age Fiche Month Origin Page Port Ship Year Name
17 126 JUN ENG 3 B 'KING PHILLIP' 1857 PROWSE, JAS

Unassisted to Vic.
Age Fiche Month Origin Page Port Ship Year Name
20 119 JAN ENG 1 B 'JOSEPH TARRATT' 1857 PROUSE, CHAS

 

[LynPB]

James born abt 1837.

Unassisted to Vic.
Age Fiche Month Origin Page Port Ship Year Name
17 126 JUN ENG 3 B 'KING PHILLIP' 1857 PROWSE, JAS

Unassisted to Vic.
Age Fiche Month Origin Page Port Ship Year Name
20 119 JAN ENG 1 B 'JOSEPH TARRATT' 1857 PROUSE, CHAS

for James' date of birth he apparently wrote in the family bible in his own hand: "7 November 1836 at Penzance". But there appears to be no official record.

 

[DaveHam9]

Interesting 1857.

Unassisted to Vic.
Age - 122 MAR - 1 B 'SARDINIAN' 1857 TREWEEK, WALTER CAPT
Age 19 122 MAR ENG 5 B 'SARDINIAN' 1857 TREWEEK, MARIA
Age 20 122 MAR ENG 5 B 'SARDINIAN' 1857 TREWEEK, JAS JNO


If John arrived with James then that might help find them.

Searching PROV in 1850s but using filter '185' I can't find a John and a James on the same vessel - Prowse/Prows/Prouse


Age does not fit.

Age 20 11A MAR 165 'SEA PARK' 1858 PROWSE, JOHN

 

[horse]

Something to ponder if you don't have it..

Deposit Journal:
Matilda Prouse
Birth Year: abt 1836
Place of Origin: Cornwall, England
Ship: Himalaya
Sponsor Name: John Prouse
Deposit Date: 17 Feb 1864
Matilda Prouse, Lwindien Prouse, Mary Giles Prouse

Geoff

EDIT: Correction

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

Didn't have it but does it fit? This is the family with James and John.

1841
HO107 Piece/Book 142/1 Folio 40 Page 9
Civil Parish: Gulval
Hundred: Penrith
County: Cornwall
Registration District: Penzance
Sub-RD: Penzance
ED: 26a
Address: Crankan
[Transcribed as Rowse]
William Prowse 40 Carpenter Y
Honor 30 Y
William 15 Y
John 8 Y
James 4 Y
Honor 20 Y
Mary 10 Y
Nancy 1 Y

Dave

 

[horse]

Didn't have it but does it fit? This is the family with James and John.

Yeah, would agree, one to eliminate or keep in mind?

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

1861
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M78G-XX9

 

[horse]

Yeah, would agree, one to eliminate or keep in mind?

John's wife/offspring, though possibly too late.

Geoff