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James RIDDELL/RIDDLE

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Piece: SCT1851/553 Place: Kilbride -Bute Enumeration District: 6
Civil Parish: Kilbride Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: -
Folio: 0 Page: 6 Schedule: 18
Address: Corrigills
Surname First name(s) Rel Status *** Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
KELSO Robert Head M M 20 Farmer Of 40 Acres Bute - Kilbride Age uncertain
KELSO Mary Wife M F 25 Farmers Wife Bute - Kilmory
KELSO Robert Son U M 5m Bute - Kilbride Age uncertain
RIDDLE James Servnt U M 14 Farm Serv Bute - Kilbride


Looking for James in 1841 and 1861.

Name: James Riddel
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1861
Gender: Male
Age: 25
Birthplace: Buteshire
Registration District: Largs
County: Ayrshire
Birth Year (Estimated): 1836


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Can't find a Riddle at all but there is a James Kelso of the right age and right place in 1841. Possible, Dave?

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James Kelso Male 29 1812 Buteshire, Scotland Transcription
Jean Kelso Female 28 1813 Buteshire, Scotland Transcription
John Kelso Male 6 1835 Buteshire, Scotland Transcription
James Kelso Male 4 1837 Buteshire, Scotland Transcription
William Kelso Male 2 1839 Buteshire, Scotland

Liivng at Corre, Kilbride
 

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Thanks Barbara.

Wonder what the Kelso connection is.


1871
Registration Number: 602
Registration District: Largs
Civil Parish: Largs
Town: Largs
County: Ayrshire
ED: 4
Roll: CSSCT1871_113
Household schedule number: 51
Address: Lades Land
James Riddle 35
Rebecca Riddle 32
Alexander Riddle 11
James Riddle 8
Ann C Riddle 6
Elisabeth Riddle 4
Rebecca Riddle 2 Largs, Ayrshire
John Riddle 7mo


Rebecca's parents are Alexander and Ann so James & ? for his parents ?? Not a good fit. Looks reversed.


James possibly died after 1923. I don't have a copy of Rebecca's death certificate but I think it says James was still living.
 

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Possible problem here:

James Kelso
Scotland Census, 1841
birth: 1837 Buteshire
residence: 1841 Kilbride, Buteshire, Scotland

James Kelso
Scotland Census, 1851
birth: 1837 Bute
residence: 1851 Corrie, Buteshire, Scotland

James Kelso
Scotland Census, 1861
birth: 1837 Buteshire
residence: 1861 Ardrossan 2 New, Ayrshire, Scotland

James Kelso
Scotland Census, 1871
birth: 1838 Buteshire
residence: 1871 Brodick, Buteshire, Scotland



James Kelso
Scotland Census, 1891
birth: 1838 Buteshire
residence: 1891 Brodick, Buteshire, Scotland
 

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Yes thanks 1861.

Rebecca should be there.

Marriage: 12/8/1859 to James Riddle, Auchengarth Parish Largs, Mason Age 23. Her address is difficult to read, but possibly Nelson St, Largs.
 

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1861Archibald Malcolm Head Widower Male 75 1786 Worsted Weaver Largs, Ayrshire, Scotland
Alexander Malcolm Son Widower Male 49 1812 Worsted Weaver Ayr, Ayrshire, Scotland
James Riddel - Married Male 25 1836 Stone Mason Journeyman Buteshire, Scotland
Rebecca Riddel Grand Daughter Married Female 22 1839 Stone Mason Wife Largs, Ayrshire, Scotland
Alexander Riddel - - Male 1 1860 - Largs, Ayrshire, Scotland n
Cathrine Riddel Visitor Unmarried Female 14 1847 Masons Daur Buteshire, Scotland

they are at Wilson Street, Largs. Sorry folio and page missing.
 

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Cathrine in 51
George Riddle Head Married Male 34 1817 Mason Largs, Ayrshire, Scotland Transcription
Elizabeth Riddle Wife Married Female 35 1816 Wife Kilbride, Buteshire, Scotland Transcription
Elizabeth Riddle Daughter Unmarried Female 12 1839 Scholar Kilbride, Buteshire, Scotland Transcription
Alexr Riddle Son Unmarried Male 9 1842 Scholar Kilbride, Buteshire, Scotland Transcription
Mary Riddle Daughter Unmarried Female 6 1845 - Kilbride, Buteshire, Scotland Transcription
Catherine Riddle Daughter Unmarried Female 3 1848 - Kilbride, Buteshire, Scotland Transcription
John Riddle Son Unmarried Male 0 1851 -

In Corrigills, Kilbride, Buteshire
 

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Thanks Barbara.

1881
Registration Number: 602
Registration District: Largs
Civil Parish: Largs
Town: Largs
County: Ayrshire
ED: 3
Roll: CSSCT1881_192
Household schedule number: 155
Address: 8 School St
James Riddle 45
Rebecca Riddle 42
Alexander Riddle 21
James Riddle 18
Elisabeth Riddle 14
Rebecca Riddle 12 Largs, Ayrshire
John Riddle 10
Jane G Riddle 9
Andrew Riddle 6
Mary Riddle 3
Martha Riddle 1 Largs, Ayrshire


No son George.

Name: George Riddle
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 21 Apr 1861
Birthplace: LARGS,AYR,SCOTLAND
Father's Name: James Riddle
Mother's Name: Rebecca Malcolm
Batch: C116021

Reversed
1st son Alexander - mother's father
2nd son George - father's father
1st dau Ann - mother's mother
2nd dau Elisabeth - father's mother
 
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Could this be them and James in 1841?

Name: George Riddel
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816
Gender: Male
Where born: Ayrshire, Scotland
Civil Parish: Largs
County: Ayrshire
Address: Thirdpart
Occupation: I Masson
Parish Number: 602
Household Members:
Name Age
James Riddel 45
Mrs. Ann Riddel 40
Hugh Riddel 18
Thomas Riddel 15
James Riddel 14
Robert Riddel 6
John Dow Riddel 2
Malcom Mckechnie 20
Sarah Mcfarlane 15
George Riddel 25
Mrs. Georg Riddel 20
James Riddel 4
Elisabeth Riddel 3
Mary Riddel 12
Martha Riddel 8
Mrs. Hugh Riddel 85
Mary Riddel 14
John Hamilton 12
 

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Apart from 1841 James pob is Bute.


Just found this one with an interesting middle name.

Jane Gillespie Riddell
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 9 Mar 1872
Birthplace: LARGS, AYR
Father's Name: James Riddell
Mother's Name: Rebecca Malcolm
Batch: C116021
 

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I would have thought George and Elizabeth should have been in Bute 1841 but maybe were visiting Ayrshire that night.

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Don't know Barbara.

James shows as born Brute in all other census. I'm wondering if there is an error with all shown as born Ayrshire.

1851 George's wife Elizabeth shown as born Bute, and dau Elizabeth.

Piece: SCT1841/602 Place: Largs -Ayrshire Enumeration District: 6
Civil Parish: Largs Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: Largs
Folio: 5 Page: 4
Address: Thirdpart
Surname First name(s) *** Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
RIDDEL James M 45 Farmer Ayrshire
RIDDEL Ann (Mrs) F 40 Wife Ayrshire
RIDDEL Hugh M 18 Apprentice Saddler Ayrshire
RIDDEL Thomas M 15 Agricultural Labourer Unknown
Page: 5
RIDDEL James M 14 Agricultural Labourer Ayrshire
RIDDEL Robert M 6 Ayrshire
RIDDEL John Dow M 2 Ayrshire
MCKECHNIE Malcom M 20 Agricultural Labourer Ayrshire
MCFARLANE Sarah F 15 Servant Ayrshire
RIDDEL George M 25 Journeyman Mason Ayrshire
RIDDEL - (Mrs George) F 20 Ayrshire
RIDDEL James M 4 Ayrshire
RIDDEL Elisabeth F 3 Ayrshire
RIDDEL Mary F 12 Ayrshire
RIDDEL Martha F 8 Ayrshire
RIDDEL - (Mrs Hugh) F 85 Ayrshire
RIDDEL Mary F 14 Ayrshire
HAMELTON John M 12 Agricultural Labourer
 
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This family must have been missed on the census, not coming up on either site with just using christian names. Nothing like Riddell or even sounding like or even little etc.

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Of course I never tried Ridee!
02/08/1836 RIDDEE JAMES GEORGE RIDDEE/ELIZABETH SINCLARE FR487 (FR487) M KILMORY SHISKINE AND LOCHRANZA /BUTE
 

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