James Robert CHANNON

[DaveHam9]

Hello,

Death 526/1870 CHANNON JAMES R AGE 40 YEARS DIED SYDNEY SYDNEY

The Sydney Morning Herald - Wednesday 4 May 1870 p.6
CORONER'S INQUEST.
The City Coroner held on inquiry yesterday morning, at the Benevolent Asylum, Pitt Street South, touching the death of Mr. J. R. Channon, who was found lying dead in the Domain, on the previous afternoon, with a pistol shot through his head...

The Sydney Morning Herald - Thursday 5 May 1870 p.8
FUNERALS
THE FRIENDS of the late Mr. JAMES CHANNON are invited to attend his Funeral, to move from his late residence, Newtown Road, THIS (Thursday) AFTERNOON, at half-past 2 o'clock.
J. and G. SHYING, Undertakers, 719 George-street South ; 120, South Head Road ; and Abercrombie-street.

Very curious the notice does not mention where James was buried.

I'd like a look up please for Waverley / South Head Cemeteries. I've checked Rookwood and Woronora.

Regards,

Dave

 

[ALM1307]

Hi there.
James Robert Channon is buried in the Methodist Cemetery Rookwood.

ROOKWOOD INDEPENDENT CEMETERY RECORD:
Surname: CHANNON
Given Names: R
Age: 41Y
Date of Interment: 05 May 1870
Denomination: METHODIST
Section: 3A/OC
Grave No: 0000953

Cheers
Ann

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello Ann,

welcome to FHUK

Thank you very much. I did check Rookwood but not expecting entry to be under 'R' in the index.

Funeral notice sent me off to South Head Cemetery.

Regards,

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello Ann,

Do you have a date of death for Frances?

The Sydney Morning Herald - Monday 14 March 1938 p.11
FUNERALS
CHANNON.-The Relatives and Friends of Mr. and Mrs. W. CHANNON, Mr. E. S. CHANNON,
Mr. and Mrs. RODERIC DHU and FAMILIES are invited to attend the Funeral of their dearly loved
MOTHER and GRANDMOTHER, Frances Hamilton Channon, to leave her daughter's residence, corner of Abbott and Cohen Streets, South Granville, THIS DAY MONDAY, at 3.15 p.m., for the Methodist Cemetery, Rookwood.
A. F. ANDERSON, Funeral Director, South Street Granville.

Methodist 3A 0000716 CHANNON FRANCIS H 14 Mar 1934 ??

Regards,

Dave

 

[ALM1307]

Frances Hamilton Channon nee Baker died on 13 Mar 1938 in Abbott Street, Granville, New South Wales.

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Ann.

I got this a few days ago:

Page 227
Baptisms solemnized in the Parish of St. James Sydney in the County of Cumberland New South Wales in the Year 1850
No 2290 When Baptised: Octr. 27th 1850 When Born: 24th September 1850 Frances Hamilton - William & Jane Baker Abode: King Street Quality or Profession: Printer By whom the Ceremony was performed: Chas. F. D. Priddle

Regards,

Dave

 

[ALM1307]

Hi DaveHam9,
Anything you want to know about Frances hamilton Baker just ask. I have an extensive knowledge of her siblings also. Most people (especially the copycats on Ancestry) have her mother's name and year of death incorrect. I also noticed in some of the threads that the building of "Pakenham" in Hornsby has been attributed to James Robert and Elizabeth Channon, it was actually their son James (1849-1920) and his wife Sarah.
I am finding it very hard to navigate this site, any tips on how to get straight to you threads after logging in?
Cheers
ALM1307

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello Ann,

Thanks. I will have some queries you can help me with. Yes, I know not all out there about the family is correct. I also know some details can't be proved 100%.

Your user name will turn green soon now you have made three posts.

You can use the search function - pull-down menu on 'Search' on the menu bar - enter a key word such as 'channon' and 'find posts by' DaveHam9.

http://www.forum.familyhistory.uk.com/search.php

Regards,

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello Ann,

One query. Please tell me which one is the correct marriage for William & Jane.

Are these the right ones?

Death 3212/1857 BAKER WILLIAM JOSEPH JANE MAITLAND

Death 4989/1882 BAKER JANE GEORGE DIED LANE COVE ST LEONARDS

BAKER (Mrs William) Death notice 11NOV1882 Death 70 late of Lane Cove River SMH 13NOV1882

Thanks.

Dave

 

[ALM1307]

Re: William Kellet Baker and Jane Browne

Dear DaveHam9,
Here goes: Because William was such a prominent person in Sydney in the 1840's and 50's you cant go wrong if you check the newspapers to corroborate your hunches.

NSW DEATH: 3212/1857 BAKER WILLIAM JOSEPH JANE MAITLAND

William Kellett Baker b. 1806 Dublin, Ireland
Artist (Printmaker)
A trained engraver, William Kellett Baker sold lithographic - often unauthorised prints of works by well-known colonial artists including William Henry Fernyhough. As a publisher and printer who also imported and sold books, Baker established a reading room and library above his printing office in 1844, offering access to his collection of international periodicals for the annual sum of 10 shillings.

The Sydney Morning Herald (NSW: 1842 - 1954) Wednesday 21 January 1857 Page 1 Family Notices
DEATHS
On Friday morning, January 16th near Mount Vincent, Mr William Baker of the Hibernian Printing Office, Sydney, aged 49 years, deeply regretted by his family and friends.

There are numerous articles on William's death and burial at East Maitland Cemetery.

The Sydney Morning Herald (NSW: 1842 - 1954) Monday 19 January 1857 Page 5 Article.. This starts them off.

NSW DEATH: 1829/1864 BAKER JANE FRANCIS DIED NEWTOWN NEWTOWN

The Sydney Morning Herald (NSW: 1842 - 1954) Wednesday 1 June 1864 Page 1 Family Notices
DEATHS
On the 20th May, at her residence, Newtown-road, South Sydney, Jane Baker, aged 46 years, relict of the late Mr William Baker, publisher of this city.

V18351263 19/1835 BAKER WILLIAM BROWN JANE SYDNEY, ST JAMES' CHURCH OF ENGLAND
He married Jane Browne 01 Jun 1835 in St James' Church of England, Sydney, NSW, daughter of Francis Browne and Unknown. Their first child was born in 1836.

Hope this helps,
ALM1307

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello ALM1307,

Thank you very much.

That helps a lot. I didn't know the William I was after was a printer and publisher. I knew there were trees that didn't agree and that there were several possible marriages.

I do use TROVE a lot and have offered the NLA many suggestions to improve the function.

Regards,

Dave

 

[ALM1307]

Hi Dave,
Glad to help anytime. There are a lot of Baker children born between 1836 and 1850 (Frances Hamilton is the last) so if you need help just ask.
Anne

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello Anne,

Thanks, there is one more thing I can think of just now and that is the children. Which do not belong?

V1836362 40/1836 BAKER JOSEPH L WILLIAM JANE
V1837462 21/1837 BAKER WILLIAM T WILLIAM JANE
V1840488 24A/1840 BAKER JAMES WILLIAM JANE
V1841638 251/1841 BAKER JOHN K WILLIAM JANE
V18432278 27A/1843 BAKER JANNY I WILLIAM K JANE
V1844567 28/1844 BAKER MARY J WILLIAM JANE
V18482200 33A/1848 BAKER MARGARET K WILLIAM JANE
V18482201 33A/1848 BAKER MARGARET K WILLIAM JANE


10587/1875 CHANNON ELIZABETH EDITH THOMAS FANNY HAMILTON DUBBO
20792/1877 CHAMMON THOMAS H THOMAS FRANCES H HILL END
18656/1879 CHANNON JAMES THOMAS FRANCES NARRABRI
1207/1881 CHANNON WILLIAM FREDERICK THOMAS FRANCES H SYDNEY
24698/1882 CHANNON EMILY A THOMAS FRANCES H NEWCASTLE
34612/1886 CHANNON ELIZABETH E THOMAS FANNY ADELONG
9119/1887 CHANNON JOHN THOMAS FANNY NEWTOWN
7084/1888 CHANNON ELSIE M THOMAS FRANCES MARRICKVILLE
26405/1891 CHANNON JOSEPH L THOMAS FANNY NOWRA
26854/1892 CHANNON ERNEST S THOMAS FRANCES H NOWRA

Regards,

Dave

 

[ALM1307]

Re: Francis Hamilton Baker

Hi Dave,
V1836362 40/1836 BAKER JOSEPH L WILLIAM JANE (JOSEPH LAURENCE)
V1837462 21/1837 BAKER WILLIAM T WILLIAM JANE (WILLIAM THOMAS)

Robert George Baker, born 1838 in Sydney, NSW; died 1841 in Sydney, NSW
NSW BAPTISM: V1838548 22/1838 BAKER ROBERT G WILLIAM JANE SYDNEY ST JAMES C of E
NSW DEATH: V1841308 25B/1841 BAKER ROBERT G INFANT
You missed this one

V1840488 24A/1840 BAKER JAMES WILLIAM JANE (JAMES POUNDS)
V1841638 251/1841 BAKER JOHN K WILLIAM JANE (JOHN KELLETT)
V18432278 27A/1843 BAKER JANNY I WILLIAM K JANE (FANNY ISABELLA)
V1844567 28/1844 BAKER MARY J WILLIAM JANE (MARY JANE)
V18482200 33A/1848 BAKER MARGARET K WILLIAM JANE (MARGARET KELLETT)
V18482201 33A/1848 BAKER MARGARET K WILLIAM JANE

will send the Channon's separately.
Anne

 

[ALM1307]

Channon children:

10587/1875 CHANNON ELIZABETH EDITH THOMAS FANNY HAMILTON DUBBO
20792/1877 CHAMMON THOMAS H THOMAS FRANCES H HILL END
18656/1879 CHANNON JAMES THOMAS FRANCES NARRABRI
1207/1881 CHANNON WILLIAM FREDERICK THOMAS FRANCES H SYDNEY
24698/1882 CHANNON EMILY A THOMAS FRANCES H NEWCASTLE
34612/1886 CHANNON ELIZABETH E THOMAS FANNY ADELONG
9119/1887 CHANNON JOHN THOMAS FANNY NEWTOWN
7084/1888 CHANNON ELSIE M THOMAS FRANCES MARRICKVILLE
26405/1891 CHANNON JOSEPH L THOMAS FANNY NOWRA
26854/1892 CHANNON ERNEST S THOMAS FRANCES H NOWRA

All correct, John and Elsie are Channon buried together at Rookwood but Elsie is listed as Arthur Channon on the Rookwood search engine. The dates are correct for Elsie's death - BDM 3407/1888 but looks like the Rookwood records are incorrect.
Cheers
Anne

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello Anne,

Thank you very much.

Yes, the Rookwood site has some errors in the database but most are probably errors in original records. I have some buried on the day they died when newspaper notices indicate a burial 2 days later.

Regards,

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello Anne,

I've looked at this several times and got lost every time. Is this the same Thomas who married Frances?

The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848-1954) - Friday 10 December 1858
SHOULD this meet the eye of HENRY CHANNON, son of James Channon, (vet. surg.), Taunton, Somerset, he is requested to write to his cousin Thomas Channon, Adelong Quartz-reef, Tumut, N.S.W.

Regards,

Dave

 

[ALM1307]

Hi Dave,
I have always thought that it is James Robert (1830-1870)'s brother Thomas.
Thomas married to Frances would only have been 6 or 7 in 1858.
Thomas died in Sydney but lived in the Tumut, Adelong, Frogmore Districts of NSW. He is buried with his brother at Rookwood.

THOMAS CHANNON, b. 19 Jul 1835, Exeter, St Sidwell, England; d. 31 Aug 1891.

The Sydney Morning Herald (NSW: 1842 - 1954) Tuesday 1 September 1891 Page 8 Family NoticesTHE FRIENDS of Mr. THOMAS CHANNON; late of Frogmore, are respectfully informed that his Funeral will leave the residence of his nephew, Mr James Channon, Beaconsfield, THIS DAY, at 2.15, for Wesleyan Cemetery, Rookwood. T. CRISFORD, Undertaker, Bur wood-road, Burwood.
Surname CHANNON
Given Names THOMAS
Age 56 Y
Date of Death
Date of Interment 01 Sep 1891
Denomination Rookwood Methodist
Section 3A/OC
Grave Number 0000953
Other Deceased
•213482 : CHANNON , R

let me know what you thimk
Anne

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello Anne,

Oh. You are so right about the age in 1858.

THOMAS CHANNON, b. 19 Jul 1835, Exeter, St Sidwell, England; d. 31 Aug 1891.

I notice from the 1841 census that Thomas, brother of James R, was not born in county (Cornwall) but I wasn't sure he was born in Exeter. I'm wondering where the 31 August came from. Death certificate? I can't see a notice in TROVE or date of death on cemetery record so I just had date as August. I had the funeral notice.

Do you know who Thomas, born Exeter, married?

Do you know where this Henry William fits in?

Marriage 870/1901 CHANNON HENRY W - NEWBERY ELIZABETH J - BOOROWA

Regards,

Dave

 

[ALM1307]

Hi Dave,
The date of birth was given to me from baptismal record.
Date of death from NSW State Records
Surname FirstName Locality DateOfDeath DateDutyPaid Item Reel Remarks
CHANNON T Frogmore 31/08/1891 15/04/1897 [19/10193] 3026

About Henry I haven't done much on him yet but he married twice, jean Victoria Lang and Elizabeth J Newberry.

CHANNON Jean Victoria Frogmore 11/01/1898 28/03/1898 [19/10194] 3026 or Jane Victoria
3361/1879 CHANNON HENRY WILLIAM LANG JEAN VICTORIA ADELONG

On another note:
There is a Portrait of William Kellet Baker and one of Jane Baker in a book in some libraries. I have not been able to get a copy yet but there are other portraits that he did online. Very interesting and exciting.
[Portrait of William Baker, the publisher]
Author: William Nicholas; William Kellett Baker
Publisher: [Sydney : W. Baker], 1848.
Edition/Format: Image : Picture : English
Publication: Heads of the people
Cheers
Anne