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James Ross and Isabella Lamont

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Trying to find James Ross's birth, parents and siblings. James Ross came to South Africa before 1811. He was a shopkeeper/ merchant in Cape Town. In 1808 to about 1811 he had a partnership with M Morrison which was eventually dissolved.
James Ross married Isabella Lamont on the 12 May 1811 in Cape Town, English church. All it says on the marriage record is that Jame is from Scotland and Isabella from Glasgow, Scotland. They had 7 children, John Alexander b. 1812 d. 1813. Alexander b. 1814 and his twin James b. 1814. Mary Helen b. 1816. John Norman b. 1818. Patrick Colquhoun b. 1821. Robert McMillan b. 1824.

A few days ago I received info about Isabella Lamont. A gentleman had transcribed a Will of Patrick Colquhoun b.1745 Dumbarton - d. 1820 London. He refers to his niece 'Isabella the wife of James Ross now resident at the Cape of Good Hope'. She was the daughter of his sister Mary Lamont (nee Colquhoun) wife of John Lamont.
I have managed to trace Mary Lamont's ancestors to the 1650's in Dumbartonshire.

But it is James Ross that I am still stuck on. And now also John Lamont. Can any one help please. Thanks.
PS. I am taking a guest that James's father was probably called Alexander and mother Helen, acording to the naming of his children?
 

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Very difficult without knowing more about James and a bit more idea where he came from. Are there any other Rosses in the same area in South Africa who could be siblings? There are many in the Scottish records and you need something to narrow him down.

There is a John Ross marrying a Mary McMillan in Inch in 1783 but it is only a possible. If they used Colquhoun then they may have used James' mother's maiden name too. The naming patterns still work with both parents being John and Mary.
 

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Name: James Ross Gender: Male Event Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 5 Feb 1814 Baptism Place: Cape, South Africa Father: James Ross Officiant: Colonial Chaplain Collection: Baptism Records Mixed
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Name: Patrick Colquhoun Ross Gender: Male Event Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 4 Nov 1821Baptism Place: Cape , South Africa
Father: James Ross Collection: Baptism Records Mixed
This one off his offspring ,middle name could be useful
 

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Name: Alexander Ross Gender: Male Event Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 5 Feb 1814Baptism Place: Cape , South Africa Father: James Ross Officiant: Colonial Chaplain Collection: Baptism Records Mixed
 

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Humphrey Colquhoun Event Type:Marriage Event Date:25 Apr 1761 Event PlacePort Glasgow, Renfrewshire, Scotland Event Place (Original)Port Glasgow, Renfrew, Scotland Gender:Male Spouse's Name:Margaret Ross Spouse's Gender:Female Spouse's Father's Name: John Ross
 

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There are a few Isabella Lomont birth Greenock

Isabell Lamont Type: Christening-Event Date: 25 Dec 1785-Event Place: Greenock, Renfrewshire, Scotland-Event Place (Original): Middle or New Parish, Greenock, Renfrew, Scotland-Gender: Female-Father's Name: William Lamont-Mother's Name: Sarah McPherson
 

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Wow Ellie lot of info thanks.
Ok, some more info about James Ross that might be his. Found a civil death entry ( one liner as they are called here, because the civil death records only started about 1894) Death date 5 Jun 1832 Cape Town, age 59 which makes his birth date about 1773. Still no info recorded were he was born. Also in the South African National archives there are two records, which I must try and get. They could help.
DEPOT KAB
SOURCE CO
TYPE LEER
VOLUME_NO 3863
SYSTEM 00
REFERENCE 322
PART 1
DESCRIPTION MEMORIALS RECEIVED. JAMES ROSS. APPLICATION TO REMAIN IN COLONY.
STARTING 1807
ENDING 1807


DEPOT KAB
SOURCE CO
TYPE LEER
VOLUME_NO 3882
SYSTEM 00
REFERENCE 175
PART 1
DESCRIPTION MEMORIALS RECEIVED. JAMES ROSS. APPLICATION FOR PERMISSION TO REMAIN
IN COLONY.
STARTING 1811
 

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One to keep in mind
James Ross-Gender Male-Birth year 1770-Birth place -Baptism year 1772-Baptism date Dec 1772Baptism place CUMBERNAULD,DUNBARTON,SCOTLAND-Father James Ross-Mother's first name(s) Isabell Grant
 

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William Bain -BirthEvent Date:17 Jan 1805- Place:Gorbals, Lanarkshire, Scotland, United Kingdom Event Place (Original):Gorbals, Lanark, ScotlandGender:MaleFather's Name:John BainMother's Name: Maryanne Lamont
Gorbals is a part of Glasgow .I am thinking along the lines of Colquhoun will and where he is connected to Isabel Lamont
 

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Humphry Colquhoun Event Type: Marriage Date: 26 Nov 1786 Place: Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland, United Kingdom Event Place (Original): Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland Gender: Male Spouse's Name: Ann Lamont Spouse's Gender: Female
 
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