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James THORNLEY

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Hello,

This is my James c. 4 Jan 1829 St Michael, Ashton Under Lyne, Lancashire
- Jeremiah & Betty

Marriages Mar Qtr 1853
THORNLEY James Bolton 8c 221
THORP Elizabeth Bolton 8c 221

1861
RG9 Piece 3121 Folio 102 Page 24
Civil Parish: Chorley
County: Lancashire
James Thornley Head 32 Iron turner Ashton Under Lyme
Elizabeth Wife 33 Chorley



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James Thornley
christening: 19 December 1830 Ashton-under-Lyne, Lancashire
parents: James Thornley, Mary Thornley

Name: James Thornley
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1871
Gender: Male
Age: 42
Relationship to Head of Household: Son-in-law
Birthplace: Ashton Under Lyne, Lancashire
Schedule Type: Household
Registration District: Preston
Sub-District: Preston
Parish: Preston
County: Lancashire
Household Gender Age Birthplace
Self Richard Blackburn M 74 Walton Cdale, Lancashire
Wife Ellen Blackburn F 68 Chorley, Lancashire
Son-in-law James Thornley M 42 Ashton Under Lyne, Lancashire
Wife Elizabeth Thornley F 43 Chorley, Lancashire
Brother-in-law John Hall M 63 Goosnargh, Lancashire

Dave
 
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I can't see James the Iron turner in 1881 either. I also can't find a death that fits.

Can any tree be found that sheds light on this? For example, did they end up in America or ... ???


I'd like a look up please for this household in 1891:

Name: James Thornley
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1891
Gender: Male
Age: 66
Relationship to Head of Household: Head
Birthplace: Ashton, Lancashire
Schedule Type: Household
Registration District: Ashton Under Lyne
Sub-District: Audenshaw
Ecclesiastical Parish: Christchurch
Parish: Ashton Under Lyne
County: Lancashire
 
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I'd like a look up please for this household in 1891:

Name: James Thornley
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1891
Gender: Male
Age: 66
Relationship to Head of Household: Head
Birthplace: Ashton, Lancashire
Schedule Type: Household
Registration District: Ashton Under Lyne
Sub-District: Audenshaw
Ecclesiastical Parish: Christchurch
Parish: Ashton Under Lyne
County: Lancashire

Hi Dave

Same details as above plus:
1891
ED: 7
RG12; Piece: 3281; Folio: 144; Page: 22
James Thornley 66 [Living on his means]
Ellen Thornley 62 [b. Ashton under Lyne]

Geoff
 
These deaths fit, but it doesn't solve the 1881 census issue:

Deaths Q1 1885

Thornley James 55
Ashton 8d 356

THORNLEY James 55
Ashton 8d 366

Geoff

There are 2 James Thornley's b. about 1829/30, a bit confusing if they are the same 2 that d. in Q1 1885.
 
Thanks Geoff.

I really don't know where I am with this one. :biggrin:

Did I make a mistake in post #1?

Please see if you can see occupation for the James in 1871 in the Blackburn household.

Dave
 
These deaths fit, but it doesn't solve the 1881 census issue:

Deaths Q1 1885

Thornley James 55
Ashton 8d 356

THORNLEY James 55
Ashton 8d 366

Geoff

There are 2 James Thornley's b. about 1829/30, a bit confusing if they are the same 2 that d. in Q1 1885.

I've looked at the images for both and it's the same image and page is 356 so only one death.
 
This is odd:

Elizabeth Blackburn
Baptism Date: 4 Jul 1834
Parish: Chorley, St Laurence
Mother: Ellen Blackburn
Reference Number: Pr 2799/11
[Mother Ellen, single woman]
 
Oh! Richard's 1st wife may be Elizabeth, seemingly, but this is away from the Preston area..

Mary Blackburn
Baptism Date: 31 Dec 1826
Parish: Bolton le Sands, Over Kellet
Father: Richard Blackburn
Mother: Elizabeth Blackburn
Reference Number: Pr/561

Could be different people!
 
Still don't know where I am for sure.

I have this as the marriage:

Marriages Mar Qtr 1853
THORNLEY James Bolton 8c 221
THORP Elizabeth Bolton 8c 221

I'm wondering if we can sort out which James died in 1885.
 
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This one is my James:

c. 4 Jan 1829 St Michael, Ashton Under Lyne, Lancashire, England
- Jeremiah & Betty

1851
HO107 Piece 2211 Folio 220 Page 34
Registration District: Bolton
Great Bolton, Bolton, Lancashire
Address: 40 Bengall Square
THORNLEY, Jeremiah 49 Engineer Latchford Cheshire
THORNLEY, Betty 53 Ashton Under Lyne Lancashire
THORNLEY, John 22 Machanic Bolton Lancashire ? [Jeremiah]
THORNLEY, James 21 Engineer Bolton Lancashire
THORNLEY, Thomas 17 Machanic Bolton Lancashire
THORNLEY, Daniel 14 Brazier Bolton Lancashire
 
Name: Richard Blackburn
Birth Date: 1800
Birthplace:
Age: 60
Spouse's Name: Ellen Thorpe
Spouse's Birth Date: 1801
Spouse's Birthplace:
Spouse's Age: 59
Event Date: 24 Sep 1860
Event Place: St. John'S, Preston, Lancashire, England
Father's Name:
Mother's Name:
Spouse's Father's Name: Henry Jolly
Spouse's Mother's Name:
Race:
Marital Status: Widowed
Previous Wife's Name:
Spouse's Race:
Spouse's Marital Status: Widowed
Spouse's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M00931-8
System Origin: England-EASy
GS Film number: 1278760
Reference ID: it 1 P.186
 
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I can't see how John Hall fits in.

He must be linked and at some point he probably needs qualifying, Elizabeth more or less has to be from the male line 'Thorp/e' unless born out of wedlock..

I still can't find Elizabeth's parents :rolleyes:

We've established James in 1851
 
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